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2 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I’m conflicted. A healthy line of Mailata-Dickerson-Kelce-Brooks-Johnson would have been one of the best we’ve ever had, but at the same time he’s been dead weight for 2 years and this will be great for our books.

Correct, he has missed too much time and is only getting older.  Great career, was time to retire.

1 hour ago, Procus said:

The OL is officially an area of need now.  Brooks is gone.  Kelce is on the fence.  LJ is aging and misses time during the season for whatever reason.  This is the strength of the team.  If the OL is not addressed, the Eagles can quickly regress.

Brooks only played 2 games in the last 2 seasons, so he was already gone.  They couldn't be counting on him anymore anyway.

Kelce still played at a high level and unless he retires, I could see him having another good couple of years.  Nevertheless, having his replacement to groom is important.  People thought Dickerson would be that guy but he has been playing Guard.  Lane isn't far off from Brooks. He is also a beast when healthy but missed too much time.  They're going to have to decide on  the future of the RT position.  Mailata has LT locked down, DIllard isn't the answer there and the rest are backups. 

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1 hour ago, Procus said:

The OL is officially an area of need now.  Brooks is gone.  Kelce is on the fence.  LJ is aging and misses time during the season for whatever reason.  This is the strength of the team.  If the OL is not addressed, the Eagles can quickly regress.

Agreed. Kenyon Green from Texas A&M would be great if he's available at 15 or 16. Green reminds me of Shawn Andrews. Tyler Lindenbaum from Iowa would be a good pickup as well to be Kelce's successor.

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Glad he retired an Eagle and didn't end up being cut. What a legend, even if only for a few years, he will be missed.

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2 hours ago, dawkins4prez said:

Even if Kelce retires you are still looking at Mailata-Seumalo-Dickerson-Driscoll-Johnson and that's a damn fine line.  The eagles already successfully rebuilt the line.

Yup,.  the Eagles have some great starting oliners and some very good backups.

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2 hours ago, Jeep_man said:

Congrats on a great career Brandon, Good luck with all your future ventures..

 

Eagles now have an extra $24 Mill in Cap space this season, I see the FO signing a top tier safety, CB, LG & WR..

 

Eagles to own the NFC Least this year....

$15,736,474

dead cap,  some 2022, some 2023.

 

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3 hours ago, Cheesteakitis said:

another thing of note after paying with things on overthecap. if the eagles trade Lane post june 1st or whatever it is his 15mil cap hit goes to like 8 dead cap and 7 cap savings... 

Lane Johnson ain't going anywhere

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3 hours ago, dawkins4prez said:

Even if Kelce retires you are still looking at Mailata-Seumalo-Dickerson-Driscoll-Johnson and that's a damn fine line.  The eagles already successfully rebuilt the line.

Uh huh.  And if one of them goes down as invariably happens during the year, then what?

The Eagles need to address the OL.  It's the one area of the team that has kept the whole squad afloat.  If it fails for whatever reason, the entire team will be adversely affected.

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Thanks for everything on and off the field.

Eagles should be looking at a reasonably high OL draft pick. Fits their philosophy, and honestly a need if the team wants to be a run heavy offense. A lot of their current OL are getting old and/or have a history of serious injuries.

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3 hours ago, Procus said:

Uh huh.  And if one of them goes down as invariably happens during the year, then what?

The Eagles need to address the OL.  It's the one area of the team that has kept the whole squad afloat.  If it fails for whatever reason, the entire team will be adversely affected.

Needing depth is very different than saying we need to burn a 1st or 2nd rdr.  This is one of the few positions the eagles have already restocked the front line young talent.  Or is under 25 rising studs at 3/5 spots not good enough for you?  Spend the resources on D and weapons, use some late picks on new developmental guys.

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17 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Needing depth is very different than saying we need to burn a 1st or 2nd rdr.  This is one of the few positions the eagles have already restocked the front line young talent.  Or is under 25 rising studs at 3/5 spots not good enough for you?  Spend the resources on D and weapons, use some late picks on new developmental guys.

If you have a stud OL at what projects will be a position where an All-Pro is retiring, and where the draftee projects to be better than who is on the roster to replace him, sure, draft the guy.  That being said, there have been many outstanding offensive linemen who were drafted mid to lower rounds.  Jason Peters was never even drafted.

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19 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Needing depth is very different than saying we need to burn a 1st or 2nd rdr.  This is one of the few positions the eagles have already restocked the front line young talent.  Or is under 25 rising studs at 3/5 spots not good enough for you?  Spend the resources on D and weapons, use some late picks on new developmental guys.

One of those picks are going to be an offensive linemen. This team prioritize linemen  over any position outside of the QB. 

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Brooks had the ability to be a HOF player.

Unfortunately, he didn't have the health.

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11 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

It's a shame and he was the best right Guard in football 2017 - 19 but he hasn't played much the last 2 seasons so it's not as big a blow as it would have been a few years ago. The big what if will always be what would've happened if he hadn't gone out of the game when we had the Saints on the ropes early in 2018.

Indeed and to be honest Foles was visibly shaken once he went out, even when the pressure wasn’t there. I think we would have won if he didn’t get hurt (no fault of his obviously)

Great player who has been through so much physically and mentally. Wish him all the best.

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11 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

It's a shame and he was the best right Guard in football 2017 - 19 but he hasn't played much the last 2 seasons so it's not as big a blow as it would have been a few years ago. The big what if will always be what would've happened if he hadn't gone out of the game when we had the Saints on the ropes early in 2018.

If he doesn't go down in N.O., Eagles very well may have been playing in their second straight SB.

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19 hours ago, Procus said:

The OL is officially an area of need now.  Brooks is gone.  Kelce is on the fence.  LJ is aging and misses time during the season for whatever reason.  This is the strength of the team.  If the OL is not addressed, the Eagles can quickly regress.

Brooks has essentially been gone for 2 years.  Dickerson was drafted to replace Kelce when he goes.  Milata was brought to replace Peters (which he has done exceptionally well at).  No idea how long Lane plans on sticking around, so maybe we need a back up/understudy at one spot.  This is not an emergency situation.

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12 hours ago, 700Level4Life said:

One of those picks are going to be an offensive linemen. This team prioritize linemen  over any position outside of the QB. 

Yes and this cycle the #1 priority is DEFENSIVE lineman.  Specifically edge.

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19 hours ago, Procus said:

The OL is officially an area of need now.  Brooks is gone.  Kelce is on the fence.  LJ is aging and misses time during the season for whatever reason.  This is the strength of the team.  If the OL is not addressed, the Eagles can quickly regress.

Even with Kelce's departure looming, we have 3 (experienced) players that can play guard or center. Herbig took the backup snaps at C in 2021 and aside from a couple bad snaps held up fine. He also was stout at RG last season in place of Brooks. Seumalo was playing LG at a Pro Bowl level before his injury. He can also slide in at center at any moment. Obviously Dickerson was considered the best center in the draft last year and has the versatility to play any O-line position. Driscoll gained experience at RT last year and guard this year. He played well both times. He just needs to stay healthy. Opeta filled in a couple of times and appears to be solid depth. With more experience, he could develop into a starter. Toth had a whole season on the team. While he's really just a project, Stoutland seems to like something about his potential. We'll find out more about him next season (whether or not he's worth keeping around). Dillard is still on the team. His lack of versatility hurts him, but the guy isn't a terrible LT.

Despite all that, it would be surprising if we didn't address OL in the draft. The team always puts a priority on the trenches and I don't expect that to change. 

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Good O linemen can be had throughout the draft.  They don't have to take one in the 1st round, in fact they shouldn't unless there's an absolute beast they can't resist.  They need to focus on defense in the 1st.

Kelce was a 6th, Malaita was a 7th, Seumalo a 3rd, Dickerson a 2nd, Brooks was a 3rd by Houston, Jason Peters was undrafted, Driscoll was a 4th...  They got Lane Johnson in the 1st at #4, and Dillard was a 1st but is just a backup. Stoutland is great at developing guys no matter where they are drafted.  It's the only strength they have in the draft.

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21 hours ago, PhillyPhreak24 said:

Agreed. Kenyon Green from Texas A&M would be great if he's available at 15 or 16. Green reminds me of Shawn Andrews. Tyler Lindenbaum from Iowa would be a good pickup as well to be Kelce's successor.

Yeah but can he get his Michael Phelps on as well as the big kid. That's the true question that needs answering

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3 hours ago, NOTW said:

Good O linemen can be had throughout the draft.  They don't have to take one in the 1st round, in fact they shouldn't unless there's an absolute beast they can't resist.  They need to focus on defense in the 1st.

Kelce was a 6th, Malaita was a 7th, Seumalo a 3rd, Dickerson a 2nd, Brooks was a 3rd by Houston, Jason Peters was undrafted, Driscoll was a 4th...  the only 1st round O lineman they have is Lane Johnson.  Stoutland is great at developing guys no matter where they are drafted.  It's the only strength they have in the draft.

Let's go defense early and offensive line later.....I have a lot more faith in Stoutland turning a 6th rounder into a Pro Bowler than I do Howie drafting a defensive player in the late rounds and them becoming something good.......

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Shame he had to go out like this. He’s one of the better ones. Nice of him to at least restructure his deal to help the Eagles get Sone cap room this season. 

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