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Figured I'd re-create the general home improvement thread from the old new board here since we're starting to sprinkle this discussion into the various other threads anyway.  I'll get it started...

 

I am going to wire my shed to run off my portable generator.  I have a small 2-breaker panel for inside the shed.  One breaker will be for the lights and the other will be for the outlets.  Generator will sit in a box just outside the shed so if I want power, I'll just open the cover and start it up.  I was going to run a line from my house but decided that it isn't worth the expense or the work for how infrequently I'm going to use it, plus I have a generator that sits largely idle inside the shed anyway.  I'm running 14 gauge wire for the lights and 12 gauge for the outlets.  I do not anticipate running anything heavy, mainly just a small flux core welder and basic power tools.

So, I have a few questions as I prepare to wire this.   

  1. I'd kind of like to have 30 amp service to this panel since I'm going to be running 2 15 amp breakers.  I have to look at my generator again, but I do not believe it has a 30-amp output.  If it does not, is there any harm in running a cord off each 15-amp outlet with the neutrals both going to one bus bar and the grounds both going to the other?  Each cord would then feed hot to one of the breakers.
  2. How do I tell which bus bar is neutral and which is ground in the box?  It is an old box my dad found in his barn so no paperwork with it.
  3. Any thoughts on what gauge wire I should run from the generator to the sub panel?  Run will be less than 25 feet.  I'm thinking 10 gauge if it has a 30 amp output, 12 gauge if I run 2 dedicated 15 amp cords.
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Might switch from window AC and coal stove to a multi zone ductless mini split.  Gonna hire a real man for installation. 

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Oh! The old "pat me on the back for doing stuff around the house” thread.

You know what doesn’t make you manly? Bragging about changing the toilet seat.

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49 minutes ago, Imp81318 said:

Figured I'd re-create the general home improvement thread from the old new board here since we're starting to sprinkle this discussion into the various other threads anyway.  I'll get it started...

 

I am going to wire my shed to run off my portable generator.  I have a small 2-breaker panel for inside the shed.  One breaker will be for the lights and the other will be for the outlets.  Generator will sit in a box just outside the shed so if I want power, I'll just open the cover and start it up.  I was going to run a line from my house but decided that it isn't worth the expense or the work for how infrequently I'm going to use it, plus I have a generator that sits largely idle inside the shed anyway.  I'm running 14 gauge wire for the lights and 12 gauge for the outlets.  I do not anticipate running anything heavy, mainly just a small flux core welder and basic power tools.

So, I have a few questions as I prepare to wire this.   

  1. I'd kind of like to have 30 amp service to this panel since I'm going to be running 2 15 amp breakers.  I have to look at my generator again, but I do not believe it has a 30-amp output.  If it does not, is there any harm in running a cord off each 15-amp outlet with the neutrals both going to one bus bar and the grounds both going to the other?  Each cord would then feed hot to one of the breakers.
  2. How do I tell which bus bar is neutral and which is ground in the box?  It is an old box my dad found in his barn so no paperwork with it.
  3. Any thoughts on what gauge wire I should run from the generator to the sub panel?  Run will be less than 25 feet.  I'm thinking 10 gauge if it has a 30 amp output, 12 gauge if I run 2 dedicated 15 amp cords.

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this will turn into a recipe sharing thread in less than a week. 

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4 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

this will turn into a recipe sharing thread in less than a week. 

and the TOA (thread owners association) will send notice to the threads on either side to clean it up. thanks, paco & spouse. 

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2 hours ago, hey suess said:

Oh! The old "pat me on the back for doing stuff around the house” thread.

You know what doesn’t make you manly? Bragging about changing the toilet seat.

Real men don't have toilet seats. The first thing they do is rip those suckers off and play cornhole with them in the back. (<----- mom thread material)

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7 hours ago, Imp81318 said:

Figured I'd re-create the general home improvement thread from the old new board here since we're starting to sprinkle this discussion into the various other threads anyway.  I'll get it started...

 

I am going to wire my shed to run off my portable generator.  I have a small 2-breaker panel for inside the shed.  One breaker will be for the lights and the other will be for the outlets.  Generator will sit in a box just outside the shed so if I want power, I'll just open the cover and start it up.  I was going to run a line from my house but decided that it isn't worth the expense or the work for how infrequently I'm going to use it, plus I have a generator that sits largely idle inside the shed anyway.  I'm running 14 gauge wire for the lights and 12 gauge for the outlets.  I do not anticipate running anything heavy, mainly just a small flux core welder and basic power tools.

So, I have a few questions as I prepare to wire this.   

  1. I'd kind of like to have 30 amp service to this panel since I'm going to be running 2 15 amp breakers.  I have to look at my generator again, but I do not believe it has a 30-amp output.  If it does not, is there any harm in running a cord off each 15-amp outlet with the neutrals both going to one bus bar and the grounds both going to the other?  Each cord would then feed hot to one of the breakers.
  2. How do I tell which bus bar is neutral and which is ground in the box?  It is an old box my dad found in his barn so no paperwork with it.
  3. Any thoughts on what gauge wire I should run from the generator to the sub panel?  Run will be less than 25 feet.  I'm thinking 10 gauge if it has a 30 amp output, 12 gauge if I run 2 dedicated 15 amp cords.

So I just put power to may shed a couple months ago and had this same kind of idea. Ended up putting a male Edison plug in a weather tight now on the outside of my shed so I could plug in an extension cord from my patio. Figured I wouldn't use it too much so it wasn't worth trenching from my electric box. 

I'm in there almost every day now doing something. I'd say, if you've got the time now with the 'rona shut down, dig the trench. I'm leaving the cord plugged in a lot more than I was expecting to and I shoulda just did it the right way. 

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6 hours ago, mr_hunt said:

this will turn into a recipe sharing thread in less than a week. 

Hey! Stay out of my domain!

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42 minutes ago, BFit said:

So I just put power to may shed a couple months ago and had this same kind of idea. Ended up putting a male Edison plug in a weather tight now on the outside of my shed so I could plug in an extension cord from my patio. Figured I wouldn't use it too much so it wasn't worth trenching from my electric box. 

I'm in there almost every day now doing something. I'd say, if you've got the time now with the 'rona shut down, dig the trench. I'm leaving the cord plugged in a lot more than I was expecting to and I shoulda just did it the right way. 

Issue isn't digging the trench as much as it is the 250+ ft of 6 gauge wire and conduit. I just can't justify the money for as little as I anticipate using it. Nice thing is that if I decide later on that I want it hard-wired I can run the wire in a trench and not really be out much $

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Did the dishes, ate quinoa, and currently watching the masked singer  :flex:

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1 hour ago, BFit said:

So I just put power to may shed a couple months ago and had this same kind of idea. Ended up putting a male Edison plug in a weather my butt, tight now on the outside of my shed sphincter, so I could plug in an extension cord from for my patio peen. Figured I wouldn't use it too much so it wasn't worth trenching from my electric box. 

I'm in there almost every day now doing something. I'd say, if you've got the time now with the 'rona shut down, dig the trench. I'm leaving the cord plugged in a lot more than I was expecting to and I shoulda just did it the right way. 

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I have an inch and a half thick ribeye that I'm reverse searing on the smoker tomorrow while drinking bourbon and smoking a good cigar. Is that manly enough for this thread?

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22 minutes ago, BFit said:

I have an inch and a half thick ribeye that I'm reverse searing on the smoker tomorrow while drinking bourbon and smoking a good cigar. Is that manly enough for this thread?

Is the cigar marinating in JP8?

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55 minutes ago, hey suess said:

Is the cigar marinating in JP8?

Gunna be a real quick smoke

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Swapped out the dining room chandelier for my grandfather the other day. It was fun a week ago when I was changing a bulb for him and the whole thing fell down.

I checked the voltage like twenty times to make sure that it was off. Thank God for This Old House. 

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8 hours ago, BFit said:

I have an inch and a half thick ribeye that I'm reverse searing on the smoker tomorrow while drinking bourbon and smoking a good cigar. Is that manly enough for this thread?

Replace bourbon with scotch and I'm there

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8 hours ago, BFit said:

I have an inch and a half thick ribeye that I'm reverse searing on the smoker tomorrow while drinking bourbon and smoking a good cigar. Is that manly enough for this thread?

how did you like the reverse sear?

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8 hours ago, BFit said:

I have an inch and a half thick ribeye that I'm reverse searing on the smoker tomorrow while drinking bourbon and smoking a good cigar. Is that manly enough for this thread?

Only if the cow the steak is coming from is going to die by your hand.

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5 hours ago, Bill said:

Swapped out the dining room chandelier for my grandfather the other day.

white slavery is never a good thing, sir.  sorry (being advised by my lawyer)....slavery is never a good thing. 

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9 hours ago, BFit said:

I have an inch and a half thick ribeye

Man, that sucks for your boyfriend

Guess it kind makes you feel pretty small too, sorry man

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10 hours ago, BFit said:

I have an inch and a half thick ribeye that I'm reverse searing on the smoker tomorrow while drinking bourbon and smoking a good cigar. Is that manly enough for this thread?

Depends what type of cigar you're smoking I guess.  Is the cigar a substitution for something else?!?

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1 hour ago, sameaglesfan said:

Depends what type of cigar you're smoking I guess.  Is the cigar a substitution for something else?!?

It'll be one of these. 

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Anyone have a Weber Spirit SP-335 Gas Grill or similar model? Looking to upgrade to this and looking for feedback. 

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