7 minutes ago, Procus said:

Pig vomit's script this off season seems to be going against the grain of what other teams are doing - trading stars for bounties of draft picks and then getting signed to crazy contracts.  Eagles are rebuilding in 2022 and 2023.  This move is consistent with that.  @paco, @downundermike - how does the Eagles cap situation look after 2022?

I started a spreadsheet March 10th last year.  That date we had 136 million in 2024 cap space, after all of last years restructuring, void years and other crap, and the maneuvering this year, we currently have 67 million in 2024 cap space.  I don't know about you, but I do not see 69 million in 2023 cap space worth of talent that we have added to the roster since March 10th of last year.

1 minute ago, Procus said:

Short term, yes.  But it looks like the Eagles are to clear things out short term with an influx of youth and reasonable contracts for the next couple of years.  I wouldn't expect any significant noise from the Eagles until 2024.

Haha an influx of youth? Good one bud. 

Just now, downundermike said:

I started a spreadsheet March 10th last year.  That date we had 136 million in 2023 cap space, after all of last years restructuring, void years and other crap, and the maneuvering this year, we currently have 67 million in 2023 cap space.  I don't know about you, but I do not see 69 million in 2023 cap space worth of talent that we have added to the roster since March 10th of last year.

For sure we haven't.  A lot of that has to be from contract restructurings and the like.  When do you see light at the end of the tunnel from a cap perspective?

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Haha an influx of youth? Good one bud. 

Let's talk in around 45 days.  Draft is coming up - Eagles have 3 first round picks.

1 minute ago, Procus said:

Let's talk in around 45 days.  Draft is coming up - Eagles have 3 first round picks.

And Howie is the one making those picks. The same guy who drafted Barnett and that worked out well...

2 minutes ago, Procus said:

For sure we haven't.  A lot of that has to be from contract restructurings and the like.  When do you see light at the end of the tunnel from a cap perspective?

Correction, that was 2024 numbers.  We currently have 67 million in 2024 cap space, and we only have 18 players under contract.

We are going to have to make a clean break with Cox, Kelce, Graham and Slay to really know.  2025 at the earliest.

This dude is a bust. Idgaf how many 2nd contracts he gets. He’s a bust. He’s had more penalties than sacks in his career. 
 

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Well, as for Barnett, as far as I'm concerned, it was already a huge success with the strip sack in the NFCCG and fumble recovery at the end of SB 52.

As a player, he has his deficiencies.  But he's also a body, has experience, and shores up a hole at an important position.  Like I said before, depends on the numbers.

1 hour ago, jojodancer said:

This is probably for no more than $3-4M per yr. See him better than Ryan Kerrigan as a rotational, so it's a massive upgrade. Good insurance for BG off the injury & if the draft runs dry at DE.

Exactly. I wanted no parts of Barnett back before the offseason because I thought a 25 year old former 1st round pick pass rusher would get 3 or 4 years at 10 million plus per season.

Two days ago a buddy were talking and we both said if you can bring him back on a reasonable deal its smart. Then you dont have to force a reach pick at DE in round because the Ojabo injury changea things.

Too many people look at things in black and white and dont understand how fluid situatuons can be. In recent weeks Walker has flown up draft boards, Ojabo tore his achilles, and Barnett was still available on a week 2 free agency rate. Do I love this deal, hell no, I dont even like it. That said for 5 million or less per season it makes sense.

I'm with those that want to see what kind of money is involved and don't see this changing the draft.

22 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And Howie is the one making those picks. The same guy who drafted Barnett and that worked out well...

Hes also the same guy who drafted Smith, Dickerson, and Williams last year and admitted to a new draft approach. I see you left that part out though because it didnt suit your narrative.

This plus signing Reddick as a LB pass rusher...he's not going to capitalize on the DE draft class which is incredibly stupid. 

smh

Barnett is a solid player. The penalty thing is a bit overblown. We all know a couple of those calls were BS, but we still blame him because they counted. 

 

For everybody worried about the draft, stop panicking. This is just a 2-year deal. This is likely Graham's last season. The Eagles may still be eying Ojabo (possibly trading back with one of the firsts) and with Barnett returning for 2022, we can be patient while he gets healthy. They could have their eye on another DE. But they will most certainly be looking at DE during the draft. The Barnett signing won't change their draft board. 

2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Bring back JJAW, bring back Reagor. Why not. 

And we wonder why top players apparently didn't want to come here. 

The fans?

3 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

Barnett is a solid player. The penalty thing is a bit overblown. We all know a couple of those calls were BS, but we still blame him because they counted. 

 

For everybody worried about the draft, stop panicking. This is just a 2-year deal. This is likely Graham's last season. The Eagles may still be eying Ojabo (possibly trading back with one of the firsts) and with Barnett returning for 2022, we can be patient while he gets healthy. They could have their eye on another DE. But they will most certainly be looking at DE during the draft. The Barnett signing won't change their draft board. 

More common sense as opposed to the majority of dummies who just want to make things up and complain about everything. Graham is 34 and coming off of a major injury. Reddick is a LB/situational pass rusher. Josh Sweat is the only long time answer at the position. Anyone who thinks this will change their draft strategy other than not being desperate and forcing a Marcus Smith type puck is just a dumb Mofo.

Roseman to Lurie: "you want terrible-terrible"

Lurie: "yeah let's do it"

50 minutes ago, Procus said:

For sure we haven't.  A lot of that has to be from contract restructurings and the like.  When do you see light at the end of the tunnel from a cap perspective?

Let's talk in around 45 days.  Draft is coming up - Eagles have 3 first round picks.

And they had a decent draft last year as well. 

Barnett is probably a good cheap signing.  He's young and has shown some flashes.  Graham is damn near 100 and Sweat can't do it alone.   Pick someone up in the draft, add Reddick, and keep an eye out on upcoming cuts.

Hopefully, his contract addresses his bonehead penalty situation.  Without that silliness, no one is complaining about signing him.

24 minutes ago, NOTW said:

This plus signing Reddick as a LB pass rusher...he's not going to capitalize on the DE draft class which is incredibly stupid. 

smh

I wouldn't bet on that. Graham is gone after this year. Barnett's contract is probably cheap. Eagles have always loved depth at DE. I don't think this has that much of an impact on the draft plans. 

1 hour ago, Procus said:

Well, as for Barnett, as far as I'm concerned, it was already a huge success with the strip sack in the NFCCG and fumble recovery at the end of SB 52.

As a player, he has his deficiencies.  But he's also a body, has experience, and shores up a hole at an important position.  Like I said before, depends on the numbers.

 

55 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

Barnett is a solid player. The penalty thing is a bit overblown. We all know a couple of those calls were BS, but we still blame him because they counted. 

 

For everybody worried about the draft, stop panicking. This is just a 2-year deal. This is likely Graham's last season. The Eagles may still be eying Ojabo (possibly trading back with one of the firsts) and with Barnett returning for 2022, we can be patient while he gets healthy. They could have their eye on another DE. But they will most certainly be looking at DE during the draft. The Barnett signing won't change their draft board. 

 

50 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

More common sense as opposed to the majority of dummies who just want to make things up and complain about everything. Graham is 34 and coming off of a major injury. Reddick is a LB/situational pass rusher. Josh Sweat is the only long time answer at the position. Anyone who thinks this will change their draft strategy other than not being desperate and forcing a Marcus Smith type puck is just a dumb Mofo.

 

45 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

Barnett is probably a good cheap signing.  He's young and has shown some flashes.  Graham is damn near 100 and Sweat can't do it alone.   Pick someone up in the draft, add Reddick, and keep an eye out on upcoming cuts.

Hopefully, his contract addresses his bonehead penalty situation.  Without that silliness, no one is complaining about signing him.

As you all say, this depends on the numbers, but if they are good, Barnett is actually a solid starting DE who is still young. He's coming off a bad year, but he can absolutely be a solid 6-8 sack guy as part of a rotation and his sack numbers will hopefully be why we got him so cheap.

For me, let's sign another safety (Mathieu or Edmonds), then go DT, CB and WR/LB in the first and then WR or LB in the second. TE in the third and all of a sudden the team starts to look a lot better.

6 minutes ago, ManchesterEagle said:

 

 

 

As you all say, this depends on the numbers, but if they are good, Barnett is actually a solid starting DE who is still young. He's coming off a bad year, but he can absolutely be a solid 6-8 sack guy as part of a rotation and his sack numbers will hopefully be why we got him so cheap.

For me, let's sign another safety (Mathieu or Edmonds), then go DT, CB and WR/LB in the first and then WR or LB in the second. TE in the third and all of a sudden the team starts to look a lot better.

People act like having depth on the defensive line is a bad thing for some reason. If he costs 6 plus million a year I hate it. As a depth guy with some upside making 5 million a year or less it's uninspiring but a smart move and capitalizing on his market not materializing like some thought it would. It's also yet another move where they could still add as early as round 1 in the draft, but put themselves in a position where they don't have to force anything and reach for a certain position.

i’m sure there is still enough money to sign clowney

30 minutes ago, Cheesteakitis said:

i’m sure there is still enough money to sign clowney

He can go knock out the Commanders' QB

Ridiculous. Howie is trying to save face as  Barnett was a first round pick. Can't believe he picked Barnett, Dillard and Reagor in 3 consecutive first rounds.  That's why those 3 first round picks this year only look good in paper. 

2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And Howie is the one making those picks. The same guy who drafted Barnett and that worked out well...

In fairness, Howie had a pretty good draft last year. And at the time, I seem to recall the Barnett pick being more attributed to Joe Douglas.

Ugh. Meh.

Please get more sacks next season than penalties!!