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Northern Virginia is home to the largest cluster of data centers in the United States, mostly concentrated in Loudoun County and, increasingly, Prince William County. 70% of the world’s internet traffic funnels through the region’s facilities, per the Amazon report

https://dcist.com/story/23/06/08/amazon-invested-52-billion-virginia-data-centers-since-2011/

 

7 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Northern Virginia is home to the largest cluster of data centers in the United States, mostly concentrated in Loudoun County and, increasingly, Prince William County. 70% of the world’s internet traffic funnels through the region’s facilities, per the Amazon report

https://dcist.com/story/23/06/08/amazon-invested-52-billion-virginia-data-centers-since-2011/

 

Didn't have time to read (I will tonight) but I had two quick thoughts:

1) I'm shocked the flagship center is not in New Mexico or something like that.  When setting up data centers you need to consider disruptions, both natural and unnatural.  We've already experienced a major east coast blackout this century and Virginia is not immune to hurricanes (and tornados to a lesser extent).  And I was in DC when they had the earthquake in (2010? 2011?)  Those desert states don't have hurricanes or (as far as I know) earthquakes

2) I'm also surprised they are taking that approach vs having much smaller centers all around the country.  Basically an offshoot of #1, if there is a disruption to the entire center, you want to have the ability to spin back up servers instantly.  By federating them across the country you minimize the hit.

 

My only guess is that they took 1 & 2 into consideration and decided that chance of a major outage is rare (it is) and that the trade off is they are willing to take a hit to the business if the unforeseen happens for lower year over year operational costs in addition to a better resource pool.

It's probable that a lot of the numbers there are two factors: geography and time.

It's still the closest data center Amazon has to the DC-Baltimore-Wilmington-Philadelphia-New York-Boston line. There's a TON of bandwidth usage there, and the VA data center is still the main workhorse. 

It's also the longest tenured data center in general, and on the east coast the only alternative is Ohio I believe. Which has half the availability zones.

I'm not an AWS expert but I believe the edge locations on the east coast also reach back to VA. 

In terms of replication, most of the high traffic sites are likely replicated across other data centers on the west coast with geolocation routing. Even if there are fully functioning replicated sites in other zones, the amount of traffic from the east coast population is humongous big. 

DR wise I'd expect most of the bigger guys at least to have functional warmed replicas out west in AZ or elsewhere. 

Amazon's VA DC is simply massive. 

Not sure they would do well in AZ with the amount of water they need to operate 

I believe AWS got in the server game when won a few CIA contracts and they are now worth 10s of billons 

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18 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Kids or dogs, they do it all

I Do it to Blow Off Steam': Penn State Professor Arrested for Having Sex with His Dog After Getting Caught on Trail Camera

 

https://www.ibtimes.sg/i-do-it-blow-off-steam-penn-state-professor-arrested-having-sex-his-dog-after-getting-caught-70592

I was literally just about to share this as well

Hope they took the dog away

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https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/chatgpt-generates-free-windows-11-keys/

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In a short time, ChatGPT has amazed the world with the things it can do (and the things it really shouldn’t be able to do). And now it seems we can add creating genuine Windows 10 and Windows 11 keys to the list. All it takes is some clever prompting and you’ll get free access to Microsoft’s operating system.

 

On 6/15/2023 at 3:52 PM, DaEagles4Life said:

Kids or dogs, they do it all

I Do it to Blow Off Steam': Penn State Professor Arrested for Having Sex with His Dog After Getting Caught on Trail Camera

https://www.ibtimes.sg/i-do-it-blow-off-steam-penn-state-professor-arrested-having-sex-his-dog-after-getting-caught-70592

Maybe he self-identifies as a canine?

can we talk about itchy groin fungus.

 

 

 

no particular reason :meh:

On 6/10/2023 at 5:42 AM, paco said:

Didn't have time to read (I will tonight) but I had two quick thoughts:

1) I'm shocked the flagship center is not in New Mexico or something like that.  When setting up data centers you need to consider disruptions, both natural and unnatural.  We've already experienced a major east coast blackout this century and Virginia is not immune to hurricanes (and tornados to a lesser extent).  And I was in DC when they had the earthquake in (2010? 2011?)  Those desert states don't have hurricanes or (as far as I know) earthquakes

2) I'm also surprised they are taking that approach vs having much smaller centers all around the country.  Basically an offshoot of #1, if there is a disruption to the entire center, you want to have the ability to spin back up servers instantly.  By federating them across the country you minimize the hit.

 

My only guess is that they took 1 & 2 into consideration and decided that chance of a major outage is rare (it is) and that the trade off is they are willing to take a hit to the business if the unforeseen happens for lower year over year operational costs in addition to a better resource pool.

IMO the choice not to have a more decentralised structure is a mistake.

It's not so much about the probability of outages... more about having a concentrated attack point for n'er-do-wellers.

Short sighted.

12 hours ago, Arthur Jackson said:

IMO the choice not to have a more decentralised structure is a mistake.

It's not so much about the probability of outages... more about having a concentrated attack point for n'er-do-wellers.

Short sighted.

Decentralized comes at a cost as well. Everything is a trade-off. 

Decentralized means you have distributed data and functionality across multiple data centers. Getting them to work together becomes challenging and expensive. And if any of the chains break semi-regularly it can be more disruptive than if everything at one place breaks and you have to fall-back to a warmed DR environment in a separate data center.

1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Decentralized comes at a cost as well. Everything is a trade-off. 

Decentralized means you have distributed data and functionality across multiple data centers. Getting them to work together becomes challenging and expensive. And if any of the chains break semi-regularly it can be more disruptive than if everything at one place breaks and you have to fall-back to a warmed DR environment in a separate data center.

definitely with you on the extra expense

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Don Jr. goes to Gay Bars.

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In other news. Looks like a good investment.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/new-us-fabs-everything-we-know

U.S. Semiconductor Renaissance: All the Upcoming Fabs

Semiconductor Fabs are being built in the USA.

The industry will have to double semiconductor production to keep pace with future demand, but most fabrication plants, commonly called fabs, are already operating at capacity. To increase supply, many companies have announced plans to build new fabs and some are already in the construction phase.

 

After years of stagnation, the U.S. is finally getting brand-new chip plants. Intel, GlobalFoundries, TSMC, and Samsung Foundry are set to spend well over $70 billion on U.S. fabs by 2025. If Texas Instruments's massive fab project (that comes online in 2025 and spans for several more years as new phases are built) and subsequent TSMC Fab 21 phases are added, we are looking at investments that might hit the $200 billion mark (or even exceed it) over the next decade. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

 

 

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More data centers in NOVA @paco

Amazon buys 25 acres in Chantilly, Virginia, for data center

Company buys composting site recently zoned for data centers

Citing Loudon County deed records, BisNow reports Amazon Data Services Inc. recently acquired a 24.6-acre property at 44150 Wade Drive in Chantilly from Firefox LLC for $34.44 million.

The address is currently listed as a Loudoun Composting site, but Firefox had been looking to rezone the land for data center uses.

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/amazon-buys-25-acres-in-chantilly-virginia-for-data-center/

 

 

I found Kz!

He's Roseanne!

48 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

 

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20 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

 

I found Kz!

He's Roseanne!

She seems very normal

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