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1 minute ago, EagleVA said:

I'm not so sure about lighting it up, you gotta keep in mind that defenses we focused on stopping the run when they played the Titans, that won't be the case for the Eagles.

Except for that is exactly what the Bucs did in the playoffs.

1 minute ago, nipples said:

No sadly he isn’t. I’ll give him that he’s consistent in his obsession with 40 times. 

I suppose he hates Deebo Samuel as well smh. 220+lb receivers are fine in that 4.49 range. Jerry Rice, Anquan Bolden, plenty that didn't run blazing 40 times.

35 minutes ago, Vee said:

I think the "impact player" they were going to draft would have been Burks.  You can watch Burks career and find out in probably two seasons, whether this was the right trade to make. 

They were clearly going after a WR with the second 1st round pick.  Since that's the case, I'm happier with Brown than I would have been with Burks.  But I felt they could have, should have addressed either the CB or S spot with that second first round pick. 

I'm good with Brown over Burks too.  Proven player vs Howie failing at another WR draft pick.  My argument is zooming out to the draft overall.  I like Brown, I like Davis and I expected them to draft Davis for weeks.  There were other guys I also wanted in the 1st.  They traded a month ago with the Saints and got future picks, already looking to replace Hurts next year in a better QB class which is fine.  But the master of trades Howie could have got into the late 1st round either by trading up, or waiting til draft day to make trade backs to collect future pick while still getting talent in this draft.  They have holes in the secondary and have not drafted any star defensive players in decades other than 2 DTs.  

54 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

First of all, I'm not paying 100m for a WR that runs a 4.5, veteran or no veteran.  

For that pick, if I wanted to go WR my pick would have been Christian Watson, his 4.36 speed and 38'' vertical brings more to the offense than what a pedestrian 4.5 WR brings.

You have to respect a 6'4'' WR running a 4.36, that speed opens up the underneath for the RBs, TEs and other WRs.  Moreover, my money is on a 6'4'' with a 38'' vertical when it comes to the contested catch.   

As far as the veteran presence goes, I think it's over rated when it comes to positions, sure you want a veterans on the team but you don't need veterans for each position.   

You need to get off the 40 time. Not every great receiver runs a 4.4. Just among some of the top current WRs: Adams ran a 4.56. Hopkins was 4.57. Kupp was 4.62. Diggs was 4.46. 
 

7 minutes ago, judunno said:

I suppose he hates Deebo Samuel as well smh. 220+lb receivers are fine in that 4.49 range. Jerry Rice, Anquan Bolden, plenty that didn't run blazing 40 times.

I mean based on his build and the way he plays, I think TO. But he’s faster than TO was. 

51 minutes ago, Vee said:

Love how this guy instantly assumes that Burks can't be Jalen Reagor II.

Who the hell sustains a competitive team forever.  I'll sit here and wait.

You build with the draft and YOU HAVE TO sprinkle in veteran players through free agency.  What do you think a draft hit rate is?  Do you realize that half of the players drafted last night, will be considered busts in three years?  HALF.

Forever is a long time, but there are organizations that have fielded competitive teams for longer periods than others depending on the coach at the time..  To name a few, Pats, 49ers, Cowboys, Steelers, Bills, 

It's not accomplished the way Coward Roseman is going about it, those teams listed above had enough courage to stay put and make good selections on draft, they trade away players for draft picks but they don't trade draft picks for players.

No doubt about it, there are a lot of incompetent GMs in the NFL, that's why the hit rate is so low.  Coward's hit rate on high picks puts him as the leader of the pack when it comes to incompetnt GMs.

I'm not saying AJ is a horrible player for for 100m, me no think so.  I'll be keeping an eye on Burks but as I said, he wouldn't have been my pick for a WR.

13 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

I'm not so sure about lighting it up, you gotta keep in mind that defenses we focused on stopping the run when they played the Titans, that won't be the case for the Eagles.

Maybe I'm not understanding your post but we had the number 1 rushing offense last year.  Defenses will most definitely be focused on stopping our RB's (just like defenses are focused on stopping Henry), which is going to open things up for Brown and Smith...assuming Hurts can deliver them the ball

2 minutes ago, psychodog said:

Maybe I'm not understanding your post but we had the number 1 rushing offense last year.  

That was only because Hurts bolted the pocket often, our running game wasn't anything to write home about last year.

5 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

That was only because Hurts bolted the pocket often, our running game wasn't anything to write home about last year.

It doesn't matter where the rushing yards come from, they all count the same..  C'mon now.  Respectfully,  your argument is kind of weak.

3 hours ago, time2rock said:

Probably wishful thinking on my part that it actually happens.  

I mean I do think if they trade him they'll get a little more than what they should. A team will convince themselves they can turn it around. 

2 hours ago, nipples said:

I mean based on his build and the way he plays, I think TO. But he’s faster than TO was. 

TO was sneaky fast. His game speed was pretty damn good. Seemed to run away from people at will.

 

1 hour ago, psychodog said:

It doesn't matter where the rushing yards come from, they all count the same..  C'mon now.  Respectfully,  your argument is kind of weak.

Don't be silly, we're talking the receiving game not the running game are we not??

When a QB drops back to pass the CBs are locked their coverage duties, when the WRs are covered the QB bolts the pocket if pressured.

When a QB turns to hand the ball off the CBs are in run support mode, ignoring their coverage duties.

WRs on teams that are run heavy fair better due to the play action pass because they're supporting the run......oops, it's a pass, ADVANTAGE WR!!

2 hours ago, nipples said:

You need to get off the 40 time. Not every great receiver runs a 4.4. Just among some of the top current WRs: Adams ran a 4.56. Hopkins was 4.57. Kupp was 4.62. Diggs was 4.46. 
 

Question, do you like tall thin women or short fat bottom girls?

Point being, it's all a matter of what you like.

33 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

Don't be silly, we're talking the receiving game not the running game are we not??

When a QB drops back to pass the CBs are locked their coverage duties, when the WRs are covered the QB bolts the pocket if pressured.

When a QB turns to hand the ball off the CBs are in run support mode, ignoring their coverage duties.

WRs on teams that are run heavy fair better due to the play action pass because they're supporting the run......oops, it's a pass, ADVANTAGE WR!!

Um...my initial response to you didn't say anything about the running game.  YOU were the one that brought it up.  I'm afraid we're just going to have to agree to disagree here.  ☮️

9 hours ago, nipples said:

You think Howie is done making trades? I don’t. He’ll get another pick. Whether that’s trading future picks or maybe moving Dillard and/or Reagor. 

I'm sure we have some players we are willing to trade, but somebody has to be willing to trade for them. Honestly, I think Howie is done making trades. We can't possibly be in a position to "move up" now since our capital is depleted after just the 1st round. So we may have to decide about getting a good player currently available at the time of our pick or moving back to gain an extra late pick. 

1 hour ago, judunno said:

TO was sneaky fast. His game speed was pretty damn good. Seemed to run away from people at will.

Right, but VA must have hated him, since he only ran a 4.65

1 hour ago, EagleVA said:

Question, do you like tall thin women or short fat bottom girls?

Point being, it's all a matter of what you like.

You can like the wrong thing lol

5 hours ago, nipples said:

No sadly he isn’t. I’ll give him that he’s consistent in his obsession with 40 times. 

It’s the SOS. This is the only fan base in the league that objects to the trade and subsequent below market signing of an ascending star at a major position of need.

Is this guy a team player or a diva? I'm guessing a team player, since they wanted him. Howie seems really smart about that.

32 minutes ago, ThinkGreen said:

. Howie seems really smart about that.

Can you say oxymoron??

8 hours ago, NOTW said:

I'm good with Brown over Burks too.  Proven player vs Howie failing at another WR draft pick. 

Ummm... are you saying Smith was a failure?

8 hours ago, judunno said:

I suppose he hates Deebo Samuel as well smh. 220+lb receivers are fine in that 4.49 range. Jerry Rice, Anquan Bolden, plenty that didn't run blazing 40 times.

Get a grip man, I never said I hated AJ Brown, it was the move that I hated.

They could have selected a receiver, saved tens of millions, and kept the 3rd for a DB, Zyon McCollum and Tariq Woolen are still on the board but without a 4th you can forget about selecting them now.......GREAT MOVE Coward Roseman!!

Then I find that we gave away two of our 5ths to move up 2 spots.......who the hell needs draft picks anyhow.

25 minutes ago, eaglegenius said:

Ummm... are you saying Smith was a failure?

Nope. Howie's picks after #13 are failures. Reagor & JJAW were failures, Agholor meh, Hollins & Gibson. His track record sucks. 

14 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Nope. Howie's picks after #13 are failures. Reagor & JJAW were failures, Agholor meh, Hollins & Gibson. His track record sucks. 

I'm with you there 100%.