April 30, 20223 yr 12 hours ago, EagleVA said: No, it made no sense, if the Eagles wanted Brown's skillset they should have drafted Burks, same skillset. But no, he decides to pay a 100m contract instead of paying a rookie contract, anyone who thinks that was a good move need to think gain. You'll never sustain a competitive team via building a team making these sort of moves, this is why when FA rolls around we can't make moves because we have no money. Honestly, I have no idea why Lurie puts up with Howard Roseman, excuse me, Coward Roseman, he a coward because he afraid make picks. It’s basically us extending reagor or jjaw cuz I guarantee we won’t be doing that. Also you claim you can’t be competitive making these moves cuz we we never have money to make the exact same moves in free agency where prices are even higher cuz there’s way more competition for high contracts ie Christian Kirk. It’s a great move I wish it was just our first cuz we still have db needs but you can’t complain about price when cards paid just as much for Hollywood and the wr market has exploded. We need young impact players more then a rookie with question marks especially after going 1 for 3 with two major misses at wideout in 3 years. Now they have their wr core for next 7 years essentially. The qbs may change the slot may change but outside guys are set in stone.
April 30, 20223 yr 9 hours ago, EagleVA said: Forever is a long time, but there are organizations that have fielded competitive teams for longer periods than others depending on the coach at the time.. To name a few, Pats, 49ers, Cowboys, Steelers, Bills, It's not accomplished the way Coward Roseman is going about it, those teams listed above had enough courage to stay put and make good selections on draft, they trade away players for draft picks but they don't trade draft picks for players. No doubt about it, there are a lot of incompetent GMs in the NFL, that's why the hit rate is so low. Coward's hit rate on high picks puts him as the leader of the pack when it comes to incompetnt GMs. I'm not saying AJ is a horrible player for for 100m, me no think so. I'll be keeping an eye on Burks but as I said, he wouldn't have been my pick for a WR. Every team you mentioned that doesn’t trade picks for players has indeed traded picks for players all within the last few years as well. Your failing to understand the one time these teams will do it tho which is when the player is a gamechanger and still on rookie contracts. Which so happens to be the exact same situation with the aj brown trade.
April 30, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, EagleVA said: Get a grip man, I never said I hated AJ Brown, it was the move that I hated. They could have selected a receiver, saved tens of millions, and kept the 3rd for a DB, Zyon McCollum and Tariq Woolen are still on the board but without a 4th you can forget about selecting them now.......GREAT MOVE Coward Roseman!! Then I find that we gave away two of our 5ths to move up 2 spots.......who the hell needs draft picks anyhow. My grips are gotten. You're the one upset. I'm good... ecstatic lol. Love what's been done so far.
April 30, 20223 yr Real happy with getting AJ Brown. However, cant get the thought out of my mind that Eagles could've probably had Cooper for a 3rd, both guys are around similar level, ability wise and kept the 1st round pick...
April 30, 20223 yr 20 hours ago, EagleVA said: No, it made no sense, if the Eagles wanted Brown's skillset they should have drafted Burks, same skillset. But no, he decides to pay a 100m contract instead of paying a rookie contract, anyone who thinks that was a good move need to think gain. You'll never sustain a competitive team via building a team making these sort of moves, this is why when FA rolls around we can't make moves because we have no money. Honestly, I have no idea why Lurie puts up with Howard Roseman, excuse me, Coward Roseman, he a coward because he afraid make picks. JJAW was a Alshon replica... fail The Rams say hi!
April 30, 20223 yr On 4/28/2022 at 10:50 PM, Fresh_Prince said: But how well does A.J. Brown run block? The funny thing is, really Fing well!
April 30, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, Milkman420 said: It’s basically us extending reagor or jjaw cuz I guarantee we won’t be doing that. Also you claim you can’t be competitive making these moves cuz we we never have money to make the exact same moves in free agency where prices are even higher cuz there’s way more competition for high contracts ie Christian Kirk. That's only if an organization choses to pay the higher prices, those that do don't fair well, it's the teams that get good players that upgrade positions of need at good prices. I've seen many excellent players reach FA that are had for very good prices, sorry but I won't be searching for them to prove my point.
April 30, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, judunno said: My grips are gotten. You're the one upset. I'm good... ecstatic lol. Love what's been done so far. Upset? Try disappointed.
April 30, 20223 yr 40 minutes ago, Portyansky said: JJAW was a Alshon replica... fail The Rams say hi! What da????? I always hated the JJ pick and wasn't enthused about the Alshon move either. 8 hours ago, Milkman420 said: Every team you mentioned that doesn’t trade picks for players has indeed traded picks for players all within the last few years as well. Your failing to understand the one time these teams will do it tho which is when the player is a gamechanger and still on rookie contracts. Which so happens to be the exact same situation with the aj brown trade. I forgot to put the Ravens on my list.
April 30, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, Jeep_man said: Real happy with getting AJ Brown. However, cant get the thought out of my mind that Eagles could've probably had Cooper for a 3rd, both guys are around similar level, ability wise and kept the 1st round pick... Cooper has a terrible personality, he’s not emotionally invested in football. He never shows up for big games, and has no rapport with any of his teammates. There’s a reason no one paid more than a 5 for him. AJ already has a sizzle reel of dominant playoff performances. AJ is 3 years younger, and still has a year left on his rookie deal. If Howie structured it right (which is what he does), we won’t feel the salary cap implications of his extension until 2024. Cooper, meanwhile, needed an immediate restructure in Cleveland because his deal is already hitting the cap bigtime. Now they’re locked into him until the deal is done, which he’ll be into his 30’s at that time. AJ won’t even be done with this extension then and will only be 28, ready for the next one.
April 30, 20223 yr So what I am hearing is that Howie (Super Genius GM) offered a contract to A.J. Brown first, (before agreeing to a trade with the Titans) forcing the Titans to trade him because they refused to match it. Can you imagine Brown's agent contacting the Titans and saying match this deal.
April 30, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, EagleVA said: Upset? Try disappointed. You just like going against the grain. (these moves will prevent us from sustaining a competitive team). I say the Eagles win the NFC EAST in large part because of Brown's impact. We shall see if Burk's puts up the same numbers that Brown does this season. Everyone is giving the Eagles an A for this draft, but somehow, that doesn't satisfy you, because you need to be outside the box.
April 30, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, jsdarkstar said: So what I am hearing is that Howie (Super Genius GM) offered a contract to A.J. Brown first, (before agreeing to a trade with the Titans) forcing the Titans to trade him because they refused to match it. Can you imagine Brown's agent contacting the Titans and saying match this deal. Nope. The Titans offered Brown a deal, he rejected it. It was $22m per year. I posted the tweet about it previously I'll try to find it. Howie was working on the terms of what picks to trade before the draft with the Titans, he said so in his press conference. Part of the deal was obviously the contract but the Titans were not blindsided.
April 30, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, EagleVA said: Upset? Try disappointed. Nah you're upset... feelings hurt. It's cool. This will pass
April 30, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, Jeep_man said: Real happy with getting AJ Brown. However, cant get the thought out of my mind that Eagles could've probably had Cooper for a 3rd, both guys are around similar level, ability wise and kept the 1st round pick... Cooper got talent but vanishes when it matters. They aren‘t equal.
April 30, 20223 yr Brown is the best traded player the Eagles had since Slay, but the best in his prime player they traded for in a very long time. Still the Eagles didn’t give up multiple first round picks to get him. To put this into perspective the Eagles got more just for the Saints to move up a couple of slots in the draft than the Titans did to give up on one of the better young wide receivers in football. Howie doesn’t lose trades nor does he give up multiple first round picks in them.
April 30, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Infam said: Cooper got talent but vanishes when it matters. They aren‘t equal. Doubt Dallas would let him go to a divisional rival for a 3rd as well. Would have cost the Eagles a first likely.
April 30, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, judunno said: Doubt Dallas would let him go to a divisional rival for a 3rd as well. Would have cost the Eagles a first likely. Definitely wouldn’t want to give up a first for that guy.
April 30, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, judunno said: Doubt Dallas would let him go to a divisional rival for a 3rd as well. Would have cost the Eagles a first likely. I'm glad we didn't go after Cooper. Definitely not worth more than what Cleveland gave up.
April 30, 20223 yr On 4/29/2022 at 3:43 PM, EagleVA said: Forever is a long time, but there are organizations that have fielded competitive teams for longer periods than others depending on the coach at the time.. To name a few, Pats, 49ers, Cowboys, Steelers, Bills, It's not accomplished the way Coward Roseman is going about it, those teams listed above had enough courage to stay put and make good selections on draft, they trade away players for draft picks but they don't trade draft picks for players. No doubt about it, there are a lot of incompetent GMs in the NFL, that's why the hit rate is so low. Coward's hit rate on high picks puts him as the leader of the pack when it comes to incompetnt GMs. I'm not saying AJ is a horrible player for for 100m, me no think so. I'll be keeping an eye on Burks but as I said, he wouldn't have been my pick for a WR. Pats will always be the outlier. You draft a Tom Brady, you can suck for years at drafting too. We'll see how competitive they remain now. Hey, if you want to follow the 49ers recipe for success, have at it. Last time they won a super bowl, people we debating beta vs VHS. Same thing for the Cowboys. I mean, these are really the model organizations you want the Eagles to follow? So you'd rather return to the McNabb years, where we had a shot, it just wasn't gonna happen. Cowboys have been awful since Romo retired. Steelers had a hell of a run with Big Ben. Lets see what happens now. Not sure you remember the Steelers of the 90s and 00s. Bills have only VERY recently begun to be a contender. There was a Redskins level draught in Buffalo regarding how seriously anyone ever took them. Seriously. Check their stats. Between Kelly and Josh Allen, there really wasn't much. (I wonder how Buffalo got into a contending position....spoiler alert, don't check their draft records regarding trades, he rarely trades down, but they didn't get Josh Allen by staying pat) I'll be honest with you. We're a QB away from joining those teams after todays draft. We could be the perennial first round loser, or maybe get lucky and sneak a win into the second round of the playoffs every year with a "we got robbed" post season. If that's what you're after, grab yourself some popcorn, cause that's the direction this team is at.
April 30, 20223 yr Just now, Vee said: Pats will always be the outlier. You draft a Tom Brady, you can suck for years at drafting too. We'll see how competitive they remain now. Hey, if you want to follow the 49ers recipe for success, have at it. Last time they won a super bowl, people we debating beta vs VHS. Same thing for the Cowboys. I mean, these are really the model organizations you want the Eagles to follow? So you'd rather return to the McNabb years, where we had a shot, it just wasn't gonna happen. Cowboys have been awful since Romo retired. Steelers had a hell of a run with Big Ben. Lets see what happens now. Not sure you remember the Steelers of the 90s and 00s. Bills have only VERY recently begun to be a contender. There was a Redskins level draught in Buffalo regarding how seriously anyone ever took them. Seriously. Check their stats. Between Kelly and Josh Allen, there really wasn't much. (I wonder how Buffalo got into a contending position....spoiler alert, don't check their draft records regarding trades, he rarely trades down, but they didn't get Josh Allen by staying pat) I'll be honest with you. We're a QB away from joining those teams after todays draft. We could be the perennial first round loser, or maybe get lucky and sneak a win into the second round of the playoffs every year with a "we got robbed" post season. If that's what you're after, grab yourself some popcorn, cause that's the direction this team is at. Can't believe you've locked Burks as an equal to AJ Brown in your head already. Thats ludicrous. We're going to have fun comparing their careers from hereon out.
April 30, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Vee said: Can't believe you've locked Burks as an equal to AJ Brown in your head already. Thats ludicrous. We're going to have fun comparing their careers from hereon out. Why are you arguing with yourself?
April 30, 20223 yr 29 minutes ago, Vee said: Pats will always be the outlier. You draft a Tom Brady, you can suck for years at drafting too. We'll see how competitive they remain now. Hey, if you want to follow the 49ers recipe for success, have at it. Last time they won a super bowl, people we debating beta vs VHS. Same thing for the Cowboys. I mean, these are really the model organizations you want the Eagles to follow? So you'd rather return to the McNabb years, where we had a shot, it just wasn't gonna happen. Cowboys have been awful since Romo retired. Steelers had a hell of a run with Big Ben. Lets see what happens now. Not sure you remember the Steelers of the 90s and 00s. Bills have only VERY recently begun to be a contender. There was a Redskins level draught in Buffalo regarding how seriously anyone ever took them. Seriously. Check their stats. Between Kelly and Josh Allen, there really wasn't much. (I wonder how Buffalo got into a contending position....spoiler alert, don't check their draft records regarding trades, he rarely trades down, but they didn't get Josh Allen by staying pat) I'll be honest with you. We're a QB away from joining those teams after todays draft. We could be the perennial first round loser, or maybe get lucky and sneak a win into the second round of the playoffs every year with a "we got robbed" post season. If that's what you're after, grab yourself some popcorn, cause that's the direction this team is at. Seems like skipped over reading "there are organizations that have fielded competitive teams for longer periods than others depending on the coach at the time." More specifically Owner, GM, and Coach at the time. If you want to build a team of the decade do not go about it the way of Coward Roseman, the GM that's afraid of making mistakes with his choices so he tries to buy his way out of his stupidity........and all the Eagles fans yell, GOOD MOVE!!
