October 4, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, xzmattzx said: Wouldn't everyone get gas before the hurricane or in the early fall and store it somewhere? Gee, you think that might cause shortages? I don't know, I'm trying to think of recent examples of where panic buying caused things that would normally be easy to buy suddenly become a huge PITA to find. Coming up empty though, maybe you can help fill in the blanks here... Quote I have a gas can for my lawnmower and fill it up ahead of time, instead of going to the gas station right when I am planning to mow the lawn. Right, because storing a couple gallons of gas for a lawnmower is very analogous to storing the amount needed to power your home off of a generator for weeks on end. How did I miss that?
October 4, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, xzmattzx said: Wouldn't everyone get gas before the hurricane or in the early fall and store it somewhere? I have a gas can for my lawnmower and fill it up ahead of time, instead of going to the gas station right when I am planning to mow the lawn. The amount of gas required to run a generator big enough to supply a house with as much power as these solar panels do, would require a little bit more than what is needed to cut grass.
October 4, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said: I did and the point remains the same. Location a, with solar power, special hand jobs, ready for floods, etc etc didnt lose any power Location b(right now to location a) didnt do nothing special, didnt lose any power Maybe, just maybe it was about location lol Interesting you picked a place that is 45 minutes more inland to be the town right next door. Since, you know, its all about location and nothing more.
October 4, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said: I did and the point remains the same. Location a, with solar power, special hand jobs, ready for floods, etc etc didnt lose any power Location b(right now to location a) didnt do nothing special, didnt lose any power Maybe, just maybe it was about location lol So you must have some shining examples of location b?
October 4, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said: Changing your tune I see. No, I've said that it is a factor in a different post. You are the one trying to boil it down to a single variable. 2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said: Changing your tune I see. Yea, Muce is 16 miles east away as the crow flies. Babcock is 12 north east from Ft. Myers Again, MAYBE!!!! JUST MAYBE!!!! It's the location FYP. Let me know when you figure out how directions work.
October 4, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said: You know what, you're right. Solar power and damns fight of Cat 5;s all the time and everyone should do it` Dude just got so triggered he had a stroke while typing lmao.
October 4, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, Kz! said: Wow, it only takes 700,000 solar panels to power the 2,000 homes? Definitely a realistic goal for every community to strive for. Very neat. It doesn't take anywhere near 700,000 solar panels to power 2,000 homes. According to this, https://www.chooseenergy.com/news/article/the-states-that-use-the-most-and-least-amount-of-energy-per-household/, Florida homes on average use about 14,000 KWH per year. Assuming ~400 KWH per panel, that's 35 panels per house. 2000 homes would be 70,000 panels. 700,000 panels would be enough to power 20,000 homes. And that's assuming a 1:1 ratio of size to production. For the installation of a solar farm like that, where it's set up in an ideal sunny situation, you'd be getting higher than a 1:1 ratio. If they got a 1.2:1 ratio, they'd be able to power 24,000 homes with 700,000 panels.
October 4, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, Kz! said: I was just going by the article in the original post: 5 hours ago, Kz! said: Babcock Ranch calls itself "America’s first solar-powered town.” Its nearby solar array — made up of 700,000 individual panels — generates... electricity... the 2,000-home neighborhood uses LOLOL no you weren't, because what you "quoted" isn't what the article states. What the article ACTUALLY states is, "Babcock Ranch calls itself "America’s first solar-powered town.” Its nearby solar array — made up of 700,000 individual panels — generates more electricity than the 2,000-home neighborhood uses, in a state where most electricity is generated by burning natural gas, a planet-warming fossil fuel." holy sh-t you really are disingenuous. You deleted the words "more" and "than" from your "quoted" post and replaced it with "..." to make it seem like the article was saying that the 700,000 panels are what's needed to generate the electricity used by the 2,000 homes. ffs.....You literally went out of your way to create your own made up false narrative.
October 4, 20223 yr Guys, I, for one, am shocked that KKKz lacks the ability to read anything even remotely technical in nature, and then properly comprehend it. He's usually so adept at that sort of thing that it's completely out of character for him to have failed so horribly in this regard.
October 4, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Guys, I, for one, am shocked that KKKz lacks the ability to read anything even remotely technical in nature, and then properly comprehend it. He's usually so adept at that sort of thing that it's completely out of character for him to have failed so horribly in this regard. This time he was actually able to comprehend it. The issue here is him not having the ability to admit being wrong. He clearly realized that the article stated that the 700,000 panels generate more electricity than the homes used, which is why he deleted that part from what he "quoted" from the article, to make it look like he wasn't wrong and that he was simply relaying what the article was stating.
October 4, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: This time he was actually able to comprehend it. The issue here is him not having the ability to admit being wrong. He clearly realized that the article stated that the 700,000 panels generate more electricity than the homes used, which is why he deleted that part from what he "quoted" from the article, to make it look like he wasn't wrong and that he was simply relaying what the article was stating. His initial post was evidence of the comprehension fail, the follow-up post was him being unable to take the L. So initial stupidity, followed by a beg to be mocked for it. In other words, a typical Tuesday for him.
October 4, 20223 yr So let's review shall we? KZAnne: Wow, it only takes 700,000 solar panels to power the 2,000 homes? Definitely a realistic goal for every community to strive for. Very neat. Paco: Why do you assume it ONLY powers the homes in the community? 175 megawatts per home is a LOT.* *Making the assumption of 500 kWH per panel given what I've seen as residential options. If the panels are commercial grade they could be more. Depending on how old they are, it could be less. But I shouldn't be far off on the ballpark estimate. KZAnne: *Reads article again, sees that the article states that the 700,000 panels generate more electricity than the 2000 homes used. Oh no, he's at a crossroads. Does he, gulp, admit that he was wrong? Think fast KZAnne think fast. Ok, I have an idea. I was just going by the article in the original post: "Babcock Ranch calls itself "America’s first solar-powered town.” Its nearby solar array — made up of 700,000 individual panels — generates more ... electricity than ... the 2,000-home neighborhood uses" KZAnne: See guys, I was just relaying what the article said. If you have a disagreement with someone, take it up with the author, who's words I was just regurgitating and not changing in any way.
October 4, 20223 yr 49 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said: So wait, now location and direction matters. Face it, it didnt survive because of special damns, and solar power. it was saved cause of the direction and location from the storm surge. just like the next town over. When you have a vertically narrow state and a storm coming from the west, yes, it makes a big difference when you compare two towns north-south of each other (Fort Myers and the solar ranch) vs two towns east west of each other (solar ranch and some town you somehow are aware of it's existence) Edit: Maybe pictures will help drive that point for you. It was a cat 3 roughly where that town you quoted is
October 4, 20223 yr And looking at the map, the storm was tracking to the north AWAY from Muce. So you picked a town that got a glancing blow of a Cat-3 hurricane to compare one that took a more direct hit from a Cat-4. You helped make a point, just not the one you wanted.
October 4, 20223 yr 40 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: So let's review shall we? KZAnne I completely forgot about that one. Fun times.
October 4, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: I completely forgot about that one. Fun times. I couldn’t imagine being so insecure that it leads to the inability to say "I was wrong” on an anonymous messageboard of strangers. so much so that it would lead me to edit the rest of an article I claimed to be quoting to avoid having to admit being wrong. Unbelievable.
October 5, 20223 yr On 10/5/2022 at 8:20 AM, Bacarty2 said: Wait, so location matters and it wasnt about the Solar waste land? Unsure what your deal or obsession is with this solar crap. Let me ask you this, Would Solar Wasteland survived if it was located in Ft. Myers? Snark reply: Did you see that El Paso was just fine? I think that PROVES that the towns planning was meaningless!!!! Serious reply: Do you have some sort of reading comprehension issues? My reply to you was LITERALLY "There was more to it than just solar panels that kept the community online."
October 5, 20223 yr Author 20 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said: Wait, so location matters and it wasnt about the Solar waste land? Unsure what your deal or obsession is with this solar crap. Let me ask you this, Would Solar Wasteland survived if it was located in Ft. Myers? Usually people dig themselves into holes with a shovel, but I applaud you for using a backhoe.
October 5, 20223 yr Author 29 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said: Zzzzz Think about the pandering that you guys fall for(over and over) that a town that didnt see major storm surge, didnt see a major brunt of the storm survived gets an article written because it has solar power. My dads town didnt get crap during hurricane sandy but the next town over was destroyed. They didnt get an article. Wonder why Pandering is reporting a story? I'm sorry that the facts are, this town took a direct hit from Ian, but thanks to planning and foresight, the power stayed on and no serious damage happened.
October 5, 20223 yr On 10/5/2022 at 9:08 AM, Bacarty2 said: Zzzzz Think about the pandering that you guys fall for(over and over) that a town that didnt see major storm surge, didnt see a major brunt of the storm survived gets an article written because it has solar power. My dads town didnt get crap during hurricane sandy but the next town over was destroyed. They didnt get an article. Wonder why 1) THE TOWN GOT PRESS BECAUSE THEY PLANNED IT FROM THE START FOR HURICANES BY: burying electric lines, building it to divert flood water, landscaping to control the water along roads, taking building codes to the extreme (as well as a huge solar and battery farm) NOT JUST BECAUSE OF SOLAR So question for you: On 10/5/2022 at 8:20 AM, Bacarty2 said: Unsure what your deal or obsession is with this solar crap. 2) You're an ass. My wife lost her home in Sandy. She was on the north end of Brigantine island and it flooded over 5 feet due to the bay and ocean converging together. Nearby towns not near the bay\ocean faired much better. So if you are using that as a comparison to discredit a planned town, you really are an ass
October 5, 20223 yr Welp, OPEC just decided to cut oil by 2 million barrels. Prices are about to skyrocket but let's not invest in electrical vehicles because MTG says they aren't manly enough. A real man drives a combustion engine Truck. So Manliness is more important than saving Americans money given that solar is now cheaper then it is has ever been.
October 5, 20223 yr 21 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: Do think that maybe solar technology will advance and the size of panels will be drastically reduced? Soooooo, rewrite the laws of physics?
October 5, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, CountBlah said: Soooooo, rewrite the laws of physics? We have to rewrite the laws of physics to increase efficiency?
October 5, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, CountBlah said: Soooooo, rewrite the laws of physics? If you're implying that pv solar cell efficiency gains are at odds with the laws of physics, I'm not sure you understand what the laws of physics actually are... https://sites.lafayette.edu/egrs352-sp14-pv/technology/history-of-pv-technology/
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