Posted November 17, 20222 yr NASA's Mightiest Moon Rocket Lifts Off 50 Years After Apollo Quote https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/11/16/nasas-mightiest-moon-rocket-lifts-off-50-years-after-apollo.html?ESRC=eb_221117.nl NASA's new moon rocket lifts off from Kennedy Space Center's Launch Pad 39-B Wednesday, Nov. 16, 2022, in Cape Canaveral, Fla. (AP Photo/John Raoux) 16 Nov 2022 Associated Press | By Marcia Dunn CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — NASA's new moon rocket blasted off on its debut flight with three test dummies aboard Wednesday, bringing the U.S. a big step closer to putting astronauts back on the lunar surface for the first time since the end of the Apollo program 50 years ago. If all goes well during the three-week, make-or-break shakedown flight, the crew capsule will be propelled into a wide orbit around the moon and then return to Earth with a Pacific splashdown in December. After years of delays and billions in cost overruns, the Space Launch System rocket thundered skyward, rising from Kennedy Space Center on 8.8 million pounds (4 million kilograms) of thrust and hitting 100 mph (160 kph) within seconds. The Orion capsule was perched on top and, less than two hours into the flight, busted out of Earth's orbit toward the moon. NASA's Mightiest Rocket Lifts off for Moon NASA's new moon rocket blasted off on its debut flight with three test dummies aboard early Wednesday, bringing the US a big step closer to putting astronauts back on the lunar surface for the first time in 50 years. (Nov 16) AP, NASA "It was pretty overwhelming,” said NASA Administrator Bill Nelson. ”We're going out to explore the heavens, and this is the next step." The moonshot follows nearly three months of vexing fuel leaks that kept the rocket bouncing between its hangar and the pad. Forced back indoors by Hurricane Ian at the end of September, the rocket stood its ground outside as Nicole swept through last week with gusts of more than 80 mph (130 kph). Although the wind caused some damage, managers gave the green light for the launch. An estimated 15,000 people jammed the launch site, with thousands more lining the beaches and roads outside the gates, to witness NASA’s long-awaited sequel to Project Apollo, when 12 astronauts walked on the moon from 1969 and 1972. Crowds also gathered outside NASA centers in Houston and Huntsville, Alabama, to watch the spectacle on giant screens. Cheers accompanied the rocket as it rode a huge trail of flames toward space, with a half-moon glowing brightly and buildings shaking as though hit by a major quake. "For the Artemis generation, this is for you,” launch director Charlie Blackwell-Thompson called out, referring to all those born after Apollo. She later told her team: "You have earned your place in history.” The liftoff marked the start of NASA’s Artemis lunar-exploration program, named after Apollo’s mythological twin sister. The space agency is aiming to send four astronauts around the moon on the next flight, in 2024, and land humans there as early as 2025. The 322-foot (98-meter) SLS is the most powerful rocket ever built by NASA, with more thrust than either the space shuttle or the mighty Saturn V that carried men to the moon. A series of hydrogen fuel leaks plagued the summertime launch attempts as well as countdown tests. A fresh leak erupted at a new location during Tuesday night's fueling, but an emergency team managed to tighten the faulty valve on the pad. Then a U.S. Space Force radar station went down, resulting in another scramble, this time to replace an ethernet switch. "The rocket, it’s alive. It’s creaking. It’s making venting noises. It’s pretty scary," said Trent Annis, one of the three men who entered the blast danger zone to fix Tuesday night's leak. "My heart was pumping. My nerves were going. But yeah, we showed up today.” Orion should reach the moon by Monday, more than 230,000 miles (370,000 kilometers) from Earth. After coming within 80 miles (130 kilometers) of the moon, the capsule will enter a far-flung orbit stretching about 40,000 miles (64,000 kilometers) beyond. The $4.1 billion test flight is set to last 25 days, roughly the same as when crews will be aboard. The space agency intends to push the spacecraft to its limits and uncover any problems before astronauts strap in. The mannequins — NASA calls them moonequins — are fitted with sensors to measure such things as vibration, acceleration and cosmic radiation. Nelson cautioned "things will go wrong” during this demo. A few minor issues already have cropped up in flight, although preliminary indications were the boosters and engines performed well. "There's definitely relief that we're underway," mission manager Mike Sarafin told reporters. But he added: "I personally am not going to rest well until we get safely to splashdown and recovery." The rocket was supposed to have made its dry run by 2017. Government watchdogs estimate NASA will have spent $93 billion on the project by 2025. Ultimately, NASA hopes to establish a base on the moon and send astronauts to Mars by the late 2030s or early 2040s. But many hurdles still need to be cleared. The Orion capsule will take astronauts only to lunar orbit, not the surface. NASA has hired Elon Musk’s SpaceX to develop Starship, the 21st-century answer to Apollo's lunar lander. Starship will carry astronauts back and forth between Orion and the lunar surface, at least on the first trip in 2025. The plan is to station Starship and eventually other companies' landers in orbit around the moon, ready for use whenever new Orion crews pull up. Reprising an argument that was made during the 1960s, Duke University historian Alex Roland questions the value of human spaceflight, saying robots and remote-controlled spacecraft could get the job done more cheaply, efficiently and safely. "In all these years, no evidence has emerged to justify the investment we have made in human spaceflight — save the prestige involved in this conspicuous consumption,” he said. NASA is waiting until this test flight is over before introducing the astronauts who will be on the next one and those who will follow in the bootsteps of Apollo 11′s Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin. Most of NASA's corps of 42 active astronauts and 10 trainees were not even born yet when Apollo 17 moonwalkers Gene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt closed out the era, 50 years ago next month. "We are jumping out of our spacesuits with excitement," astronaut Christina Koch said Tuesday. After a nearly yearlong space station mission and all-female spacewalk, Koch, 43, is on NASA's short list for a lunar flight. So is astronaut Kayla Barron, 35, who finally got to witness her first rocket launch, not counting her own a year ago. "It took my breath away, and I was tearing up,” Barron said. "What an amazing accomplishment for this team.”
November 17, 20222 yr 5 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: @EagleVA Thoughts? The two words above don't quite mesh.
November 17, 20222 yr If we're lucky it will get far enough away from Earth to finally determine if the Earth is flat.
November 17, 20222 yr 29 minutes ago, Mlodj said: If we're lucky it will get far enough away from Earth to finally determine if the Earth is flat. That would risk a dome collision.
November 18, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, EagleJoe8 said: That would risk a dome collision. It will be destroyed by the Van Allen Belts before that.
November 18, 20222 yr 10 hours ago, Mlodj said: It will be destroyed by the Van Allen Belts before that. Van Bueren slacks go nice with a Van Allen belt.
November 18, 20222 yr 18 hours ago, DEagle7 said: @EagleVA Thoughts? Get back to me when they place a camera on the Moon that's focused on Earth 24/7, otherwise it's all BS. BTW, there's been something bothering me about those launches. No rocket launch other than those targeted for space has the rocket taking off slowly and gradually picking up speed, the velocity of the projectile should be the greatest at takeoff. Look at any projectile at takeoff, be it a cruise missile, rifle bullet or whatever, you'll see that this is true. Thoughts?
November 18, 20222 yr 20 minutes ago, EagleVA said: Get back to me when they place a camera on the Moon that focused on Earth 24/7, otherwise it's all BS. BTW, there's been something bothering me about those launches. No rocket launch other than those targeted for space has the rocket taking off slowly and gradually picking up speed, the velocity of the projectile should be the greatest at takeoff. Look at any projectile at takeoff, be it a cruise missile, rifle bullet or whatever, you'll see that this is true. Thoughts? That’s a pretty simple question that beckons a simple answer: the takeoff mechanisms are different.
November 18, 20222 yr 24 minutes ago, Thrive said: That’s a pretty simple question that beckons a simple answer: the takeoff mechanisms are different. I have a simpler answer, "none of it is true, they lie about everything!!".......NASA Insider
November 18, 20222 yr 32 minutes ago, EagleVA said: Get back to me when they place a camera on the Moon that's focused on Earth 24/7, otherwise it's all BS. BTW, there's been something bothering me about those launches. No rocket launch other than those targeted for space has the rocket taking off slowly and gradually picking up speed, the velocity of the projectile should be the greatest at takeoff. Look at any projectile at takeoff, be it a cruise missile, rifle bullet or whatever, you'll see that this is true. Thoughts? Yes, thoughts are good. Like the thought that a missile of explosives, designed to blow up, acts differently than a rocket which has cargo that needs to be safely lifted, and not smashed into something. Oh look - a large missile rising slowly. How odd that they NEVER do that. Oh look, another one. I guess you don't know what you are talking about. Again.
November 18, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, EagleVA said: ... the velocity of the projectile should be the greatest at takeoff. Look at any projectile at takeoff, be it a cruise missile, rifle bullet or whatever, you'll see that this is true. Congratulations on breaking your own record for the stupidest thing said by anyone ever. You're truly the Tom Brady of not knowing stuff.
November 18, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, EagleVA said: Get back to me when they place a camera on the Moon that's focused on Earth 24/7, otherwise it's all BS. BTW, there's been something bothering me about those launches. No rocket launch other than those targeted for space has the rocket taking off slowly and gradually picking up speed, the velocity of the projectile should be the greatest at takeoff. Look at any projectile at takeoff, be it a cruise missile, rifle bullet or whatever, you'll see that this is true. Thoughts? This **** literally doesn't understand how a gun works lmao.
November 18, 20222 yr 11 minutes ago, Boogyman said: This **** literally doesn't understand how a gun works lmao. The guy is a complete moron.
November 18, 20222 yr 12 minutes ago, Boogyman said: This **** literally doesn't understand how a gun works lmao. That's because it's not mentioned in the Bereshit
November 18, 20222 yr 4 hours ago, EagleVA said: Get back to me when they place a camera on the Moon that's focused on Earth 24/7, otherwise it's all BS. BTW, there's been something bothering me about those launches. No rocket launch other than those targeted for space has the rocket taking off slowly and gradually picking up speed, the velocity of the projectile should be the greatest at takeoff. Look at any projectile at takeoff, be it a cruise missile, rifle bullet or whatever, you'll see that this is true. Thoughts? You can watch the launch in person. Live. With your own eyes. You do know that, right?
November 18, 20222 yr 7 hours ago, EagleVA said: Get back to me when they place a camera on the Moon that's focused on Earth 24/7, otherwise it's all BS. BTW, there's been something bothering me about those launches. No rocket launch other than those targeted for space has the rocket taking off slowly and gradually picking up speed, the velocity of the projectile should be the greatest at takeoff. Look at any projectile at takeoff, be it a cruise missile, rifle bullet or whatever, you'll see that this is true. Thoughts? Actually, a rifle bullet accelerates until it leaves the barrel and then immediately starts to decelerate. This is because the gasses increase in pressure in the barrel but once it exits the barrel there is no more 'propellant' to push it forward. If the velocity of a rocket was at max. immediately at takeoff I don't think it would be good for the passengers. Do you think the passenger area of a space ship is sitting on top of a huge container of explosives and then they light it off like a firecracker which propels the passenger pod into space? That's not actually how it works. You're acting like a rocket ship is propelled like shrapnel from a bomb.
November 18, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, GreenReaper said: Actually, a rifle bullet accelerates until it leaves the barrel and then immediately starts to decelerate. This is because the gasses increase in pressure in the barrel but once it exits the barrel there is no more 'propellant' to push it forward. If the velocity of a rocket was at max. immediately at takeoff I don't think it would be good for the passengers. Do you think the passenger area of a space ship is sitting on top of a huge container of explosives and then they light it off like a firecracker which propels the passenger pod into space? That's not actually how it works. You're acting like a rocket ship is propelled like shrapnel from a bomb. You're wasting precious breath. Imagine explaining algebra to an ant.
November 18, 20222 yr Author 9 hours ago, EagleVA said: Get back to me when they place a camera on the Moon that's focused on Earth 24/7, otherwise it's all BS. I'm not going to step into an argument over whether it's real or fake, flat or round or any of that. But they did have a camera on the moon that focused on the Earth. I can't say 24/7 because it was a camera that could be rotated and tilted. So it focused on many things. The Earth included. They did it before and can (and likely will) do it again. That doesn't mean that people will believe that it's real or will believe that it's fake. Spoiler
November 18, 20222 yr 2 hours ago, GreenReaper said: Actually, a rifle bullet accelerates until it leaves the barrel and then immediately starts to decelerate. This is because the gasses increase in pressure in the barrel but once it exits the barrel there is no more 'propellant' to push it forward. If the velocity of a rocket was at max. immediately at takeoff I don't think it would be good for the passengers. Do you think the passenger area of a space ship is sitting on top of a huge container of explosives and then they light it off like a firecracker which propels the passenger pod into space? That's not actually how it works. You're acting like a rocket ship is propelled like shrapnel from a bomb. Hmmm, I wonder how the velocity of the bullet inside the barrel is measured? Think about it, you're talking about measuring the velocity over the distance of inches, sounds a bit far fetch to me.
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