July 16, 20205 yr 23 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: It's also disingenuous to compare numbers from NY after the virus has run through the population to FL before/during. Not to mention the rest of the nation can look to NY and elsewhere to see what did and didn't work. We know much more than we did 4 mos ago. Who thought shoving all the sick people amongst the elderly was a good idea in the first place?
July 16, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, L.E said: This is another reason why we needed more testing from the jump. We have no idea if what we are seeing now indicates a new spike or just the result of more available testing. Going by deaths, it looks like we are trending up a tad but thankfully no where near where we were at in April\May..... yet
July 16, 20205 yr 36 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Whining about numbers and facts being disingenuous after blaming Trump for coronavirus. Thats rich I never blamed Trump for covid-19. I HAVE blamed him for his poor response, and I DO blame him for continuing to spout BS about reducing testing.
July 16, 20205 yr Author 15 minutes ago, paco said: This is another reason why we needed more testing from the jump. We have no idea if what we are seeing now indicates a new spike or just the result of more available testing. Going by deaths, it looks like we are trending up a tad but thankfully no where near where we were at in April\May..... yet The deaths will come with time. You gotta be sick before dying.
July 16, 20205 yr 18 minutes ago, sameaglesfan said: Who thought shoving all the sick people amongst the elderly was a good idea in the first place Nursing homes were a backstop for hospitals that were overflowing. That was the plan: if hospitals get overrun, recovering patients may need to find beds elsewhere. It was poorly executed. But I fail to see how this whataboutism changes anything about my response. Comparing numbers from NY, the early place this virus broke out in the US, after they endured the worst of this (so far) and at least for now have this under control with FL, who appears to be at the beginning of a huge surge of deaths (as they will naturally lag behind the huge spike in cases), is completely disingenuous.
July 16, 20205 yr 18 minutes ago, paco said: This is another reason why we needed more testing from the jump. We have no idea if what we are seeing now indicates a new spike or just the result of more available testing. Going by deaths, it looks like we are trending up a tad but thankfully no where near where we were at in April\May..... yet Some is testing. But not all. Probably not most. Texas actually releases hospitalization figures. Take a look at them. They're scary as hell. I have family in Austin. I'm concerned.
July 16, 20205 yr 30 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Nursing homes were a backstop for hospitals that were overflowing. That was the plan: if hospitals get overrun, recovering patients may need to find beds elsewhere. It was poorly executed. But I fail to see how this whataboutism changes anything about my response. Comparing numbers from NY, the early place this virus broke out in the US, after they endured the worst of this (so far) and at least for now have this under control with FL, who appears to be at the beginning of a huge surge of deaths (as they will naturally lag behind the huge spike in cases), is completely disingenuous. I'm pretty sure there is enough disingenuity (if that's even a word) to go around in the political response to the pandemic virus. . Pointing fingers at the other side is what we all seem to do the best.
July 16, 20205 yr 42 minutes ago, sameaglesfan said: I'm pretty sure there is enough disingenuity (if that's even a word) to go around in the political response to the pandemic virus. . Pointing fingers at the other side is what we all seem to do the best. so why are you only critiquing me for trying to correct the record or give context? you didn't attack anything I said. you merely engaged in a what-about response. I see idiots posting bs numbers all the time. I see my Trumpbot friends and family calling COVID-19 a hoax and conspiracy every time some state or local government revises their numbers based on new information, or corrects them because of an error. crap like this is what gets shared: I don't even know where they get those numbers. worldwide deaths for COVID-19 are around 5,000 a day right now. I've corrected those on the left here who like to point at Europe as models of how to handle COVID-19, despite the fact that many of those countries have far more deaths per capita than the US and are similarly dealing with a group of its citizens who for some reason see donning masks as some sort of affront to their civil rights. Don't engage in whataboutism then accuse me of "pointing fingers at the other side". It's preposterous.
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