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3 hours ago, 20dawk4life said:

Maybe because people are too lazy to tell the difference between the two places and lump all black people together. Pretty racist if you ask me but oh well. 

Acknowledging the African diaspora is racist??

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19 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Acknowledging the African diaspora is racist??

They don't view themselves as African. They are Jamaican. You should get out more. 

8 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

They don't view themselves as African. They are Jamaican. You should get out more. 

People are upset that Kamala Harris is called an African American.  I’ve tried to explain to you that this is due to the African diaspora even though her father is Jamaican.  As far as calling people from Jamaica "Jamaicans” I have no objections to that.

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3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

People are upset that Kamala Harris is called an African American.  I’ve tried to explain to you that this is due to the African diaspora even though her father is Jamaican.  As far as calling people from Jamaica "Jamaicans” I have no objections to that.

But they shouldn't. That's the point. She's Jamaican. Not all black people are from Africa. 

1 minute ago, 20dawk4life said:

Not all black people are from Africa. 

Where do you think they are from??

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23 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Where do you think they are from??

Well there's plenty from the ME. Black does not mean African. 

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1 hour ago, 20dawk4life said:

Well there's plenty from the ME. Black does not mean African. 

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Jamaica was populated by the African slave trade. Well, that's after their native population was eradicated by Columbus, but that's not germane.

Their origins are African. 

Furthermore, when a Jamaican immigrates to America, their experience is going to mirror that of the American blacks. So I fail to see here where this distinction matters in the least.

I don't even like Kamala. But stop with this crap that she's Jamaican therefore she doesn't count in some way as black.

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10 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

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Jamaica was populated by the African slave trade. Well, that's after their native population was eradicated by Columbus, but that's not germane.

Their origins are African. 

Furthermore, when a Jamaican immigrates to America, their experience is going to mirror that of the American blacks. So I fail to see here where this distinction matters in the least.

I don't even like Kamala. But stop with this crap that she's Jamaican therefore she doesn't count in some way as black.

Ok. You go tell a Jamaican he's African. See how that works out. 

I never said she doesn't count as black. Just the opposite actually. 

Yes a Jamaican will have similar to damn near identical experience as an African American in America because people are too lazy or stupid to tell the difference and judge just on skin color. My point. 

This does not change that a lot, possibly majority, of Jamaicans view themselves as Jamaican and not African. Hardly any go around saying they are African-Jamaican like we have African-American as a common term for black people here who have absolutely nothing to do with Africa. In fact when African Americans go to other countries they are not treated as African-American, they are treated as American.

I have no idea what point you think you're making. But sure, ok.

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5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I have no idea what point you think you're making. But sure, ok.

My point is you can't just lump Kamala in as African American because she's Jamaican. You wouldn't lump someone from Haiti in as African American. 

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