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12 hours ago, The_Omega said:

I’m sure the ‘’masks aren’t meant to protect you, they’re meant to protect other people from you’’ crowd will be along to call this nonsense out any minute now.  Any.....minute..........now.........

they do a little of both. it's more about others, because the cloth prevents most droplets from being exhaled right into the air. 

I'm not really sure why that is the single point you decided to pull from, other than some sort of attempt at a weak "gotcha" and trying to shift the focus from the main point :rolleyes:

11 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:

The PRIMARY benefit of wearing a surgical mask or cloth mask (though surgical masks are superior) is that they significantly reduce the chance of respiratory droplets from being emitted to the atmosphere from the wearer.  They also do offer SOME protection to the wearer if someone else were to cough/sneeze/talk in their area without wearing a mask.  But since they aren't as tightly fitted to the face as an N95 mask, they don't offer the same level of protection as an N95 mask with regards to protecting the wearer from being exposed by others.   But if everyone was wearing a mask, then you wouldn't have to worry about being exposed by other people, since their droplets aren't getting released.

why do you support tyranny?

1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

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Why doesn’t he ask what the reaction would be like if they sweetly and thoughtfully linked up for Hitler

2 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Why doesn’t he ask what the reaction would be like if they sweetly and thoughtfully linked up for Hitler

are you seriously trying ton contrast calls for equal treatment from law enforcement with Hitler?

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14 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

are you seriously trying ton contrast calls for equal treatment from law enforcement with Hitler?

No I’m merely pointing out that being sweet and thoughtful is only a necessary but ultimately not sufficient cause for a positive reaction

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I’d like to see a chart of prosecutions led by democrats

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17 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

A virus is never just floating in the air on its own. It must be carried by vapor/droplets. Those droplets are large enough that a cloth mask is helpful in preventing inhalation,.

Your garden-variety cloth masks generally don't do much to filter the inhalation of aerosols. What they do is slow the spread of what you exhale, thereby reducing the distance traveled by aerosols and subsequent viral transmission. By extension, if everyone is wearing masks, there will be less of the virus floating around a given area, so it's simply less present. The only kind of masks that effectively protect the wearer from breathing in aerosols are medical-grade masks and respirators, like the N95 and similar models.

14 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Your garden-variety cloth masks generally don't do much to filter the inhalation of aerosols. What they do is slow the spread of what you exhale, thereby reducing the distance traveled by aerosols and subsequent viral transmission. By extension, if everyone is wearing masks, there will be less of the virus floating around a given area, so it's simply less present. The only kind of masks that effectively protect the wearer from breathing in aerosols are medical-grade masks and respirators, like the N95 and similar models.

There is a reduction in transmission for the wearer. It's not much, but it's measurable. 

But yes, it's primarily protection from the wearer not for the wearer.

What we need is a society of people who care enough for their fellow human beings that wearing a mask overrides their desire to make a political statement by rejecting masks.

28 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

There is a reduction in transmission for the wearer. It's not much, but it's measurable. 

But yes, it's primarily protection from the wearer not for the wearer.

What we need is a society of people who care enough for their fellow human beings that wearing a mask overrides their desire to make a political statement by rejecting masks.

What’s funniest to me about the mask-wearing is that when things get really bad, red states will mandate masks even if they rejected them earlier.  Tells you a lot about the mindset of the people in charge in these states.

1 hour ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

No I’m merely pointing out that being sweet and thoughtful is only a necessary but ultimately not sufficient cause for a positive reaction

And in what universe is a gesture calling for equality somehow equatable to linking for Hitler?  Holy sh-t........

19 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

What’s funniest to me about the mask-wearing is that when things get really bad, red states will mandate masks even if they rejected them earlier.  Tells you a lot about the mindset of the people in charge in these states.

what pisses me off is when localities pass mandates or *gasp* decide to open schools virtually first, you see red state governors trying to override these local decisions at the state level.

5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

what pisses me off is when localities pass mandates or *gasp* decide to open schools virtually first, you see red state governors trying to override these local decisions at the state level.

Yep, that's what happened in Houston (with Judge Hidalgo).  then when it got really bad, the Governor of TX instituted a mask law, which we could have had in the city six weeks earlier.

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