1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say there will be gloating, no matter who wins. 

19 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say there will be gloating, no matter who wins. 

Also I don’t see despair happening.  In all likelihood I see another Russian conspiracy theory brewing 

33 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Also I don’t see despair happening.  In all likelihood I see another Russian conspiracy theory brewing 

You think Republicans are cooking up something about Biden and Russia?  I'd be surprised, but I wouldn't anything past those scumbags, so maybe you're right.

2 hours ago, VanHammersly said:

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say there will be gloating, no matter who wins. 

Sadly i agree.  Imo this is a lose/lose proposition being put up to the voters

8 hours ago, Ride the Walrus said:

The thought process behind creating and posting this meme is precisely why roughly half the country is voting for Trump.

9 minutes ago, SBorBust said:

The thought process behind creating and posting this meme is precisely why roughly half the country is voting for Trump.

Roughly half the country isn't voting at all.

3 hours ago, VanHammersly said:

Roughly half the country isn't voting at all.

I think that's changing this year. 

99.7 million have already voted.

137 million voted in 2016. that was good for 54.7% of the voting age population.

if 155 million cast ballots, and there are roughly 257.6 million of voting age, turnout will be over 60%, which is pretty high by US standards.

if 160 million cast ballots, we're over 62%.

(these stats use voting age population, which does not account for people deemed ineligible for whatever reason such as being incarcerated/etc.)

17 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I think that's changing this year. 

99.7 million have already voted.

137 million voted in 2016. that was good for 54.7% of the voting age population.

if 155 million cast ballots, and there are roughly 257.6 million of voting age, turnout will be over 60%, which is pretty high by US standards.

if 160 million cast ballots, we're over 62%.

(these stats use voting age population, which does not account for people deemed ineligible for whatever reason such as being incarcerated/etc.)

Yep, the bump in midterm turnout from 2014 to 2018 was about 12pts. Even conservatively speaking, if we get 2/3rds of that bump this year, we're at 64% or so? That would be the highest turnout on record in over a century. During a pandemic, no less. Absolutely bananas.

12 hours ago, Ride the Walrus said:

The people on the right behead Christians, throw LBGTQ people off roofs, do not allow democracy, cutoff hands of theives, suicide bomb, kill innocent people, etc, etc.

The people on the left defend the freedom and the constitution.

21 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Yep, the bump in midterm turnout from 2014 to 2018 was about 12pts. Even conservatively speaking, if we get 2/3rds of that bump this year, we're at 64% or so? That would be the highest turnout on record in over a century. During a pandemic, no less. Absolutely bananas.

you think all those additional voters are coming out to support a polarizing president whose approval rating has been stuck at 42% for four years?

20 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

you think all those additional voters are coming out to support a polarizing president whose approval rating has been stuck at 42% for four years?

I don't know man, I think you underestimate the cult in that regard. I'm not one to cry about the polls being wrong, but with Trump, approval rating is meaningless as a predictor of who people are gonna vote for. They can easily disapprove of him while still voting for him merely on the grounds that they think Biden would be even worse. We see the justification of "I don't support him but..." all the time in here. 

I think a better indicator is looking at the states which require new voter registrations to register with a particular party, and from what I've read there, Reps are out registering Dems. So while I agree that the higher turnout is likely to favor Dems, and that anything short of massive polling errors would give a victory to Biden, I'm not as bullish on a large disparity in new voters like we've seen in past elections prior to 2016. 

7 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I don't know man, I think you underestimate the cult in that regard. I'm not one to cry about the polls being wrong, but with Trump, approval rating is meaningless as a predictor of who people are gonna vote for. They can easily disapprove of him while still voting for him merely on the grounds that they think Biden would be even worse. We see the justification of "I don't support him but..." all the time in here. 

I think a better indicator is looking at the states which require new voter registrations to register with a particular party, and from what I've read there, Reps are out registering Dems. So while I agree that the higher turnout is likely to favor Dems, and that anything short of massive polling errors would give a victory to Biden, I'm not as bullish on a large disparity in new voters like we've seen in past elections prior to 2016. 

But doesn't matter more where the higher numbers are coming from? If NYC and other major Dem cities are getting more voters to come out doesn't it make no difference on the election? 

12 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

But doesn't matter more where the higher numbers are coming from? If NYC and other major Dem cities are getting more voters to come out doesn't it make no difference on the election? 

NYC, no, because NY is strong blue.

Philly perhaps, but we have to see if turnout is better. Demographic shifts have not been good for Dems in PA.

Austin and other big cities in Texas? Yes, because it's already shifted Texas from brick red to just lean red, and possibly to as far as toss-up in 2020 given the negative energy that Trump has generated among the left.

Trump himself has been by far the best campaigner for the left up and down the ballot since he won. The blue wave in 2018 wasn't some major endorsement of Democrats. It was a repudiation of just two years of Trump's nonsense. I hope 2020 is more of the same so we can put his dangerous populism and rhetoric of division behind us.

1 hour ago, 20dawk4life said:

But doesn't matter more where the higher numbers are coming from? If NYC and other major Dem cities are getting more voters to come out doesn't it make no difference on the election? 

Of course. That's why I said you are better off looking at states where new voters must register with a party.