Monty Python for the WIN.

 

 

I really haven’t looked into electric cars at all, but do that have universal charging ports/plugs?  Like, could you take a ford to a Tesla charger, for example?

 

Also, is there a good comprehensive resource for finding charging stations along your route if you’re traveling?  I’ve thought about getting a third car rather than putting gas in my truck all of the time for our local errands and weekend trips to visit family, but I have no idea whether EV would be practical for it or not. And I’ll admit this is all a pipe dream anyway because I am not really interested in having a $20k+ third car, but maybe in a few years when I can pick one up used…

Well I guess Biden was right, If you didn't vote for him, you aint black...  (Guessing Thomas did not vote for Biden)

 

 

 

29 minutes ago, Imp81318 said:

I really haven’t looked into electric cars at all, but do that have universal charging ports/plugs?  Like, could you take a ford to a Tesla charger, for example?

 

Also, is there a good comprehensive resource for finding charging stations along your route if you’re traveling?  I’ve thought about getting a third car rather than putting gas in my truck all of the time for our local errands and weekend trips to visit family, but I have no idea whether EV would be practical for it or not. And I’ll admit this is all a pipe dream anyway because I am not really interested in having a $20k+ third car, but maybe in a few years when I can pick one up used…

Tesla and everyone else use two different level 2\3 chargers.  But they make adapters.

 

As for the finding on your route, my (theoretical) mustang lets you put in the destination, calculates your estimated range and automatically routes you to an optimal station on your route.  I imagine Tesla is the same.  

50 minutes ago, paco said:

 

  

Slow JT is slow  

 

51 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

When my wife had the Model S, we took it up to her parents a few times. The trip is a little over 400 miles, and we generally had to stop 2x at a Supercharger. Once is doable -- you get lunch while it charges. The second one is annoying. If we did it with one stop, the car was all but dead by the time we got to her parents. And no -- you don't get the same mileage while speeding on I-5. 

Now that I have the Taycan, her car is a hybrid so we can use that for any longer trips if need be. But we really never drive long distances.

Yeah, any trip that approaches 500 miles one way, I'm not driving.

I think the thing that is going to hurt EV adoption is going to be the lack of cheap, used cars.

EV batteries only have a limited life, and they are super expensive to replace. 

Even if you figured out a way to efficiently rehab and replace them, used cars are still going to run you at least $20K. 

This is really going to hurt poor people if they ban conventional gas-powered cars. 

Also, EV's go through tires like crazy.... Because they're so bottom heavy and have high acceleration rates, you really burn through tires.... crap like that is going to add up. 

8 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

 

Anyone: Here is an example that's not and it's not ideal, how you can get around it

Dumb JT: He said coffvveve!!!!!

 

Also, you literally proved that trickle charges CAN work for most people since they drive no where near the range of the battery, let alone what could be charged on a level one charger over night, but keep focus on coffee to deflect from your constant fail  

 

1 minute ago, paco said:

Anyone: Here is an example that's not and it's not ideal, how you can get around it

Dumb JT: He said coffvveve!!!!!

 

Also, you literally proved that trickle charges CAN work for most people since they drive no where near the range of the battery, let alone what could be charged on a level one charger over night, but keep focus on coffee to deflect from your constant fail  

 

 

It wouldn't work for a commuter. 

 

Enjoy your EV Paco. 

1 hour ago, paco said:

Curious where you saw that since I've read so many different things.  This one I thought was interesting.  

tl;dr:

From Ford giving a warranty of 8 years/100k miles of the battery falls below 70 percent capacity. They didn’t pull that number out of thin air. 

4 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

 

It wouldn't work for a commuter. 

 

Enjoy your EV Paco. 

False

Quote

Federal Highway Administration data from 2019 indicates motorists in the U.S. drive an average of 39 miles per day.

 

Enjoy your ignorance JT.  May you continue to act informed on topics you are clueless about to give the rest of us a good laugh at your expense.

1 hour ago, paco said:

Depends on the charger.  On the road you'll likely hit a level 3 charger, which has a rate of 3 to 20 miles per minute.  The charge rate depends on how empty your battery is, the lower the charge, the faster the charge rate.  So in theory you can add 100 miles in 5-6 minutes

100 miles is nothing on a road trip. You may have to drive out of your way to get to the charger. Yes the whole 10 percent to 80 percent in as low as 45 minutes!!! You’re also suggested to not fully charge the vehicle because charging to 100 percent can damage/lessen the capacity of the battery. 

5 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

From Ford giving a warranty of 8 years/100k miles of the battery falls below 70 percent capacity. They didn’t pull that number out of thin air. 

Good deal.  Thank you!

Just now, paco said:

False

 

Enjoy your ignorance.  May you continue to act informed on topics you are clueless to give the rest of us a good laugh at your expense.

Average motorist is everyone who drives. I'm in that equation. I drive like 20 miles every 2 days lol.  My wife drives less than that.

 

I worked in a factory at a blue collar job, with several hundred other people. Some live close. A lot drove 40 to 50 miles. Quite a few had two jobs. 

Like I said, out of touch. And that's good for you.

19 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Yeah, any trip that approaches 500 miles one way, I'm not driving.

We honestly did it mainly because (i) her parents really wanted us to bring our dog and (ii) the dog REALLY loved her dad because he just gave him non-stop steak.

1 minute ago, Ipiggles said:

The season after he started kneeling he literally had offers to be a backup because he was pretty much cooked as a starter.  But that wasn't good enough apparently.

 

Now, I don't think he would be a serviceable backup.  And certainly not one worth the media circus IMO

7 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

100 miles is nothing on a road trip. You may have to drive out of your way to get to the charger. Yes the whole 10 percent to 80 percent in as low as 45 minutes!!! You’re also suggested to not fully charge the vehicle because charging to 100 percent can damage/lessen the capacity of the battery. 

No arguments here.  Big reason we are keeping our Explorer for the near future.  Give the size (for all the baby s***) and gas tank, it's our long distance car.

8 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Average motorist is everyone who drives. I'm in that equation. I drive like 20 miles every 2 days lol.  My wife drives less than that.

 

I worked in a factory at a blue collar job, with several hundred other people. Some live close. A lot drove 40 to 50 miles. Quite a few had two jobs. 

Like I said, out of touch. And that's good for you.

Some did.  The average person doesn't.  Wasn't the average person your whole "point" in the first place?

 

So I guess we are now debating if it works for a poor who also drives 50 miles uphill both ways to work  

 

You all are talking about EV's and I'm over here like, how can I make this my daily?

 

Just now, paco said:

Some did.  The average person doesn't.  Wasn't the average person your whole "point" in the first place?

 

So I guess we are now debating if it works for a poor who also drives 50 miles uphill both ways to work  

 

Neither of us drove to work lol. People that don't drive to work but drive are still "motorists"

6 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

We honestly did it mainly because (i) her parents really wanted us to bring our dog and (ii) the dog REALLY loved her dad because he just gave him non-stop steak.

For a trip like that, where I am taking the dog/s we just take the RV.  all the comforts of home. 

6 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

We honestly did it mainly because (i) her parents really wanted us to bring our dog and (ii) the dog REALLY loved her dad because he just gave him non-stop steak.

I can see doing that very occasionally. The dogs definitely matter.  I personally hate sitting for long periods of time, and don't really enjoy driving either. My wife loves to drive.