January 9, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: "Whatever you or I may think of it is irrelevant! Except for that tweet calling a book libtard propaganda. The thoughts of whoever said that is super relevant!" - A literal retarded person Yes, what we think about censorship is irrelevant because the government will do it regardless. We were talking about censorship. I know basic reading comprehension like reading the sentence directly in front of the one you try in vain to mock is difficult for you, but try to keep up.
January 9, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, TEW said: Yes, what we think about censorship is irrelevant because the government will do it regardless. We were talking about censorship. I know basic reading comprehension like reading the sentence directly in front of the one you try in vain to mock is difficult for you, but try to keep up. "What we think doesn't matter, except for the guy I agree with. Then it suddenly matters and I'll breathlessly defend his honor like he was my own father!"
January 9, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: "What we think doesn't matter, except for the guy I agree with. Then it suddenly matters and I'll breathlessly defend his honor like he was my own father!" The illiterate moron is still going!
January 9, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, TEW said: The illiterate moron is still going! Nobody can match your 90th percentile IQ, my man
January 10, 20241 yr 16 hours ago, TEW said: Yes… it is. And the US has faced this numerous times in its history. WW2 and Vietnam being obvious examples. Hell, didn’t the army just put out an advertisement doing exactly what I said to try to boost recruitment? It’s almost like demoralization works… I literally just retired from the military 10 days ago, but ya I’m wrong. There’s no recruiting or retention crisis…they didn’t just extend HYT numbers in a desperate bid to keep more people or call me on my terminal leave. You’re right, i know nothing, sorry.
January 10, 20241 yr 33 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said: I literally just retired from the military 10 days ago, but ya I’m wrong. There’s no recruiting or retention crisis…they didn’t just extend HYT numbers in a desperate bid to keep more people or call me on my terminal leave. You’re right, i know nothing, sorry. Uh, dude, I agree with you — I am saying there IS a recruiting crisis, and it’s precisely because we had a decade of demoralizing news coverage. That’s the entire point.
January 10, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, paco said: Not making a point. Just found this f'n hilarious. Oh yeah, we should definitely censor some of those. How are we going get people like private Pyle to join the marines if we let just anybody watch Full Metal Jacket? And…
January 10, 20241 yr 57 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: A bunch of libtard propaganda if you ask me! Telling what or how something happened=propaganda these days.
January 10, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, TEW said: Uh, dude, I agree with you — I am saying there IS a recruiting crisis, and it’s precisely because we had a decade of demoralizing news coverage. That’s the entire point. Sure…but it really has not much to do with demoralizing news coverage as it does lack of faith in the government. Inept leadership inside and out running things. You’re doing backflips right now trying to argue 2 different points about the same things. Demoralizing coverage of 9/11 and Pearl Harbor really hurt recruiting back in the day right? Recruiting has been in shambles far before the botched A-Stan withdrawal.
January 10, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Wentz_Era said: Sure…but it really has not much to do with demoralizing news coverage as it does lack of faith in the government. Inept leadership inside and out running things. You’re doing backflips right now trying to argue 2 different points about the same things. Demoralizing coverage of 9/11 and Pearl Harbor really hurt recruiting back in the day right? Recruiting has been in shambles far before the botched A-Stan withdrawal. Pretty straightforward really. Are we recruiting soldiers to protect our country (Pearl Harbor & 9-11)? Or recruiting soldiers to rebuild nations where the general population hates us, because we just destroyed it (Iraq & 20+ years in Afghanistan)?
January 10, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Wentz_Era said: Sure…but it really has not much to do with demoralizing news coverage as it does lack of faith in the government. Inept leadership inside and out running things. You’re doing backflips right now trying to argue 2 different points about the same things. Demoralizing coverage of 9/11 and Pearl Harbor really hurt recruiting back in the day right? Recruiting has been in shambles far before the botched A-Stan withdrawal. Where does this lack of faith come from? What is news coverage that destroys public faith in the government other than demoralizing? I’m not saying it was wrong for that news coverage to take place, or that it should not have been allowed to take place, or that people who lack faith in our government are wrong to think this. But by definition this is a demoralizing phenomenon. If you were America’s enemy, this is EXACTLY what you would try to accomplish in a psychological operation against the public. It’s why we have had such difficulty winning protracted wars over the past half century. It’s not that we don’t kill our enemies better than they kill us, it’s that the general public has their appetite for war eroded by negative news coverage (regardless of if that coverage is justified or true or not).
January 10, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, MidMoFo said: Pretty straightforward really. Are we recruiting soldiers to protect our country (Pearl Harbor & 9-11)? Or recruiting soldiers to rebuild nations where the general population hates us, because we just destroyed it (Iraq & 20+ years in Afghanistan)? If you read the article I linked previously, enlistment plummeted in WW2 after FDR lifted his strict censorship and allowed pictures of dead soldiers to be shown to the American public. That was like year 2 after Pearl Harbor. So clearly the mere fact that you were attacked and are recruiting to protect our country isn’t enough in the face of demoralizing information.
January 10, 20241 yr 41 minutes ago, TEW said: If you read the article I linked previously, enlistment plummeted in WW2 after FDR lifted his strict censorship and allowed pictures of dead soldiers to be shown to the American public. That was like year 2 after Pearl Harbor. So clearly the mere fact that you were attacked and are recruiting to protect our country isn’t enough in the face of demoralizing information. I believe you, and I’m not surprised without reading the article. Wasn’t there a draft going on around that same time after Pearl Harbor? I would think that would have an effect on voluntary enlistment as well. I’m not going to accept or support our government lying, misleading or hiding information from citizens. None of them, whether it’s the party I support or not. Not allowing the media to reveal the coordinates of our troops during a conflict is not the same, because that is FOR the safety of our troops. Now you can bring up the censoring of hate speech, but that’s also different because it’s typically littered with false information and it can also lead to endangering innocent citizens.
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