I'd trade down a few spots, say 15-18 and pick up an extra 2nd/3rd rounder if a team was desperate.  But absolutely target a stud, most likely a corner.  

Even if you assume Slay stays, him and Bradberry are over 30.  Draft a young, smart CB, have them learn from those 2 while being a major part of rotation, and you can have the next homegrown all pro CB.

I think a trade down from 10 is the way to go. We have zero picks scheduled as of the moment for Rds 4, 5 and 6, yet if there is ever a year where we need more picks it's this season where we need to replenish after so many free agent losses. We can trade down 4-5 picks and there will still be plenty of talent on the board that is not much different than the guys at 10. Now, if an unexpected talent drops to 10 ... then that's a different story.

2 hours ago, Rey said:

I think a trade down from 10 is the way to go. We have zero picks scheduled as of the moment for Rds 4, 5 and 6, yet if there is ever a year where we need more picks it's this season where we need to replenish after so many free agent losses. We can trade down 4-5 picks and there will still be plenty of talent on the board that is not much different than the guys at 10. Now, if an unexpected talent drops to 10 ... then that's a different story.

I like a trade down but as you said, only a handful of spots.  Don't go past 15.  I want a top corner with that pick.  Getting an additional pick or 2 in later rounds will help.  The roster needs depth and guys to develop into future starters.

But I also don't want to trade too far back and miss out on top talent.  

21 hours ago, Procus said:

Let me explain to you.  The simple minded always point out the drafting mistakes - and every team has them.

The Eagles are said to have the best OL in the league.  Is that because of Stout - you bet he's a huge part of that.  But every single starter on the OL - every single one - TE included - is an Eagles draft pick.

The QB - an Eagles draft pick.

Two of the starting WRs - Eagles draft picks

3 of the 4 edge rushers on the team - Eagles draft picks.

Eagles have drafted a LOT of pro bowl players and a lot of starters.  Yes, there have been some misses, and no doubt the simple minded will focus on the Reagor pick over JJ while ignoring everything else.  But by and large, the core of this roster is home grown.

So maybe now you understand a bit better

Where you're missing the point is in addition to the failures at WR, the failure to draft defensive backs and linebackers is just as bad, that's why our special teams perform they way they do, OL and DL is fine but there are others position on a team.

On 3/14/2023 at 2:35 AM, weko said:

So we may lose 7 starters on defense.  Yes we have a lot of picks a year from now.  Might get two comp 3s and two 4s or a 4 and a 5.  But that doesn't help us

field a team next year.  It is possible we could lose all 4 starters in the defensive backfield our middle line backer both DT starters and 2 DT contributors.

That's 9 defenders.  Thankfully we have the 10th selection in the draft.  We could trade down twice with that pick and acquire a 2,3 & 4 or 5 and trade down from 30 and pick up a 3 or high 4.

We need to do that.  The best value is always in the 2nd and early 3rd rounds.  You get pro bowlers in the 2nd round at a steep discount in salary to the 1st round.  And with our strapped cap situation

we don't need to pay 1st round money this year.  We need cheaper players who can play and that's the 2nd round to mid 3rd with good selections hopefully through round 5 who can make the

roster.  We need...1 DE, 2 DTs, 2 CBs, 2 Ss, RB, slot WR, swing OT, back up OG/C for starters.  We need 4-5 more picks in the first 5 rounds.

 

 We need multiple trade downs

You forgot ..... punter.

On 3/14/2023 at 2:02 AM, weko said:

From today's 411...we have 54.7 mil in dead money this year from dummy contract extensions.  That's 10 mil more than the 2nd worst dead money team.

We have kicked and kicked the can down the road and this is the end of the road.  We have to go cheap this year.  If we make room to sign one of our free agents

we will have limited resources left to pay draft picks.  Basically we are out of money and have maxed out our credit cards.  Time to cut them up and pay down some debt.

That means lots of picks rounds 2-5 to fill holes cheaply

We go through this every year.  It's my 21st year on the board and every single year we go through the same nonsense.  To be clear:

The can was made to be kicked. There is no "end of the road" - if there was, the Eagles and most of the other teams in the league would have run off it by now. The bill never comes due.  "Dead money" is purely semantics.  It's an accounting vehicle. The Eagles have resigned Cox, Graham, Bradberry and late word is they're working on new deals for Slay and CJGJ. NFL owners make the rules and the cap was made to be manipulated.  

On 3/14/2023 at 3:28 PM, weko said:

Yes we have 2 DEs and one is 35 years old.  We need 2 more.  Cox is gone.  He could return for the 6 mil Graham is taking but he won't. That will mean all 4 of our rotational DTs will be gone. We need 3 DTs.  No team will trade a draft pick for Slay with that contract.  By us giving him permission to seek a trade we have told the league will will release him when he finds out no one wants his contract with how poorly he played the last 2/3rds of the season.  We are allowing him to seek a trade in hopes he will agree to take a lot less money but doubtful he will.  If not, he will be released not extended.  By cutting him and saving 17 mil we could resign CJG or Bradberry, so that's the possible good news.  If CJG leaves we need to draft 2 safeties, one first 3 rounds, one late.  We need a speed guy in the slot and may dump Watkins for a 7 or maybe him and a 7 for a 6.  a 6 outright would be great.  We have no Oline depth any more.  We have one reserve Driscoll who can play all over.  Opeta can't play, the kid we were grooming at OT got charged so not optimistic he returns.  Dillard gone, Sem soon to follow.  Jurgens will start at RG.  We need 2-3 Olinemen mid round to late to develop.  We don't have any picks to acquire depth at O line or anywhere else.  We need young and cheap anyway.  We have 57 mil in dead money and will spend 55 mil or so on 2 qbs.  So that's 110 mil spent and 51 other guys to pay.  You can't kick the can down the road forever.  Glad we did it and had a great chance for a SB win but now we watch many leave and retool with younger cheap players and for that...we need a bunch more picks

 

Cox, back. Bradberry, back. Slay, apparently back. CJG they're pushing hard to re-sign him. Dean replaces White as planned. Davis replaces Hargrave, they traded up in the 1st now he'll start. 

You're panicking & it's only been a couple days & there's more to come. 

4 hours ago, NOTW said:

Cox, back. Bradberry, back. Slay, apparently back. CJG they're pushing hard to re-sign him. Dean replaces White as planned. Davis replaces Hargrave, they traded up in the 1st now he'll start. 

You're panicking & it's only been a couple days & there's more to come. 

I still hope we pick Witherspoon at 10. Maybe now we go DT or DE.

7 hours ago, NOTW said:

Cox, back. Bradberry, back. Slay, apparently back. CJG they're pushing hard to re-sign him. Dean replaces White as planned. Davis replaces Hargrave, they traded up in the 1st now he'll start. 

You're panicking & it's only been a couple days & there's more to come. 

It will be interesting to see who the other starting LB will end up being. I'm pretty confident in Dean stepping in. I was a little surprised Edwards didn't get more as a FA and feel like we could have matched that if he wanted to stay in Philly. It seems every year we pick up someone for cheap (at LB) before the season. But there is a forgotten contender and he appears motivated:

1 hour ago, brkmsn said:

It will be interesting to see who the other starting LB will end up being. I'm pretty confident in Dean stepping in. I was a little surprised Edwards didn't get more as a FA and feel like we could have matched that if he wanted to stay in Philly. It seems every year we pick up someone for cheap (at LB) before the season. But there is a forgotten contender and he appears motivated:

I agree, I would have kept Edwards. 

Howie typically signs a free agent even if just a 1 year deal (just like with White) to fill the spot so there's not a glaring need going into the draft to have flexibility.  I would expect that.

I would also love one of these years for them to end the drought of not drafting a LB in the 1st round (up to 44 years now).  Perhaps with that 30th pick who knows.

Even though I believe Howie will trade down to try and acquire multiple first round picks again, I do think he’s made enough moves that drafting at ten or even moving up to get a stud player are now options on the table. Howie has positioned this team to go in any direction of their choosing. So far a very good start to the off-season for Howie.

OP's bin smokin pakalolo

No way, make the pick at 10.  A team with this much talent, and this record will not get another shot at Top 10 talent.  If you want to trade down, trade the other pick.

11 minutes ago, Vee said:

No way, make the pick at 10.  A team with this much talent, and this record will not get another shot at Top 10 talent.  If you want to trade down, trade the other pick.

I like it. We won't be picking top ten for a while so make it a good one.

Take the player ranked highest on your board that is a DE, DT, OT, or CB.  Hopefully we’re not picking in the top 10 for a long time unless it is due to Howie’s wheeling and dealing again.  We’re going to have plenty of picks in 2024 to add a bunch of players.  So draft top end talent now while in position to do so and fill out the roster with UDFAs and veteran castoffs to get through this year.  

On 3/16/2023 at 9:18 AM, brkmsn said:

It will be interesting to see who the other starting LB will end up being. I'm pretty confident in Dean stepping in. I was a little surprised Edwards didn't get more as a FA and feel like we could have matched that if he wanted to stay in Philly. It seems every year we pick up someone for cheap (at LB) before the season. But there is a forgotten contender and he appears motivated:

Bradley was hurt a lot last year so he’s been a bit of a forgotten man, but he’s definitely a guy I’m rooting for to get a shot. The PS guy they brought in late last year Ellis also looked very good in spot time. There’s also the dark horse of the bunch Taylor who at one time was the starter who spent all last season on the practice squad. He has all the tools you want in a linebacker, but was never able to put it all together. The Eagles have a lot of inexperienced players at the linebacker position right now and I could see them adding a few more undrafted FA types to compete as well. This will be the position battle to watch this coming camp. Of course there’s always the chance the sign Bobby Wagner. 😂

On 3/16/2023 at 6:18 AM, manz2821 said:

I still hope we pick Witherspoon at 10. Maybe now we go DT or DE.

Yeah it's 100% going to be Carter, Murphy or Skoronski. 

1 hour ago, time2rock said:

Take the player ranked highest on your board that is a DE, DT, OT, or CB.  Hopefully we’re not picking in the top 10 for a long time unless it is due to Howie’s wheeling and dealing again.  We’re going to have plenty of picks in 2024 to add a bunch of players.  So draft top end talent now while in position to do so and fill out the roster with UDFAs and veteran castoffs to get through this year.  

You know Howie before might have been stockpiling picks because he was hedging his bet on Jalen, but now I think it’s possible he may still follow that playbook because of Jalen as well. I could see Howie moving up on this board to take a certain guy for sure, but I also could see him trading back for a later first in this draft for another first next season. Then he doubles the amount of five year contracts and pushes a few of them back another year as well. He continues to do this, because of the contract he’s about to drop in Jalen’s lap. 

All depends on what offers he's seeing from other teams...everything is possible.

7 hours ago, Vee said:

All depends on what offers he's seeing from other teams...everything is possible.

And what happens ahead of them. If 4 QBs come off the board before we pick then that may force a team to desperately trade up.

On 3/14/2023 at 2:41 PM, judunno said:

Nah... Howey never limits himself in that way where he has to make 1 move and 1 move only. By the time it's draft time he usually has vets in place that could likely start from trades and FA and such. He'll have all options on the table to select at 10, trade up, or trade down. Too premature to make the definitive statement that he must trade down at 10. He hasn't even gone to work yet.

And just like that since Tuesday Howie goes to work and retains his top CBs, adds a Greedy one, gets Chip Kelly's fave player of all time, retains his Cox, gets a high ceiling albeit oft injured RB for depth, and CJGJ is still a possibility. Telling you this man playing chess and everybody else is playing tic-tac-toe. Let this man work.

I’d stay at 10 if our guy that we want is still there. If not, drop down to 13, or 15 at the lowest.

I would definitely trade back from our late 1st rounder and accumulate another mid round pick or two. 

On 3/14/2023 at 2:02 AM, weko said:

From today's 411...we have 54.7 mil in dead money this year from dummy contract extensions.  That's 10 mil more than the 2nd worst dead money team.

We have kicked and kicked the can down the road and this is the end of the road.  We have to go cheap this year.  If we make room to sign one of our free agents

we will have limited resources left to pay draft picks.  Basically we are out of money and have maxed out our credit cards.  Time to cut them up and pay down some debt.

That means lots of picks rounds 2-5 to fill holes cheaply

Tampa is around 74m with Brady's dead cap.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/tampa-bay-buccaneers

 

 

I dont like Pac12 players

But to predict how the draft will shake out 10 spots and demand we trade out is fairly silly. 

 

 

I'm on the trade up bandwagon if they can.