March 31, 20232 yr On 3/18/2023 at 5:33 PM, Vee said: No way, make the pick at 10. A team with this much talent, and this record will not get another shot at Top 10 talent. If you want to trade down, trade the other pick. Well the reason they’re picking at 10 right now is due to them making a trade. Maybe Howie strikes good with another trade and in 2024 they end up in the top 5?
March 31, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said: Well the reason they’re picking at 10 right now is due to them making a trade. Maybe Howie strikes good with another trade and in 2024 they end up in the top 5? He could, but you can't rely on that. I also think that trading one of the last picks of the of the draft for a first rounder next year PLUS a second rounder this year makes more sense. That sound right?
March 31, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Vee said: He could, but you can't rely on that. I also think that trading one of the last picks of the of the draft for a first rounder next year PLUS a second rounder this year makes more sense. That sound right? They lack so many picks in this draft though. Losing a first and a second this year seems like a heavy cost for a first next year. Perhaps he could be playing it both ways? He could be sitting at ten in hopes a guy he wants falls, but if he doesn’t they trade back. I think Howie is thinking bigger picture here. The short and the long run of things, and one thing the Eagles love is "optionality.”
April 1, 20232 yr 15 hours ago, EazyEaglez said: They lack so many picks in this draft though. Losing a first and a second this year seems like a heavy cost for a first next year. Perhaps he could be playing it both ways? He could be sitting at ten in hopes a guy he wants falls, but if he doesn’t they trade back. I think Howie is thinking bigger picture here. The short and the long run of things, and one thing the Eagles love is "optionality.” Eagles would be RECEIVING a first rounder next year and a second rounder this year for that #30 pick.
April 1, 20232 yr 12 hours ago, Vee said: Eagles would be RECEIVING a first rounder next year and a second rounder this year for that #30 pick. That sure does seem like a lot of value for the pick. By comparison this is what the Eagles gave up their first in the Lamar Jackson trade. They still had to give up an extra 4th to get two consecutive second round picks.
April 1, 20232 yr I think they will end up making both picks in the 1st round. The window is still open and they have an opportunity to select two players that will come with 5th year options. That doesn't often happen to a team in the midst of a SB window. This is a big opportunity to improve this year, but more likely in the next year or two with two 1st rounders this year. Especially with the top-10 pick. I could even see them moving up from 30 if there is a player they have in mind in the early 20's.
April 1, 20232 yr On 3/14/2023 at 3:02 AM, weko said: From today's 411...we have 54.7 mil in dead money this year from dummy contract extensions. That's 10 mil more than the 2nd worst dead money team. We have kicked and kicked the can down the road and this is the end of the road. We have to go cheap this year. If we make room to sign one of our free agents we will have limited resources left to pay draft picks. Basically we are out of money and have maxed out our credit cards. Time to cut them up and pay down some debt. That means lots of picks rounds 2-5 to fill holes cheaply Chill - we're fine in 2023 after the recent restructurings https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space
April 4, 20232 yr Is this like a pretty mediocre draft class (besides QBs?) All i hear are people wanting to trade down.
April 5, 20232 yr 14 hours ago, opa-opa said: Is this like a pretty mediocre draft class (besides QBs?) All i hear are people wanting to trade down. Edge, TEs. RBs are pretty good. I think people are thinking trade down because of the lack of day 3 picks. Typical thinking when not looking at the broader picture with the fact that they'll have plenty of 2024 assets to move as they deem fit. I'm on the trade up wagon at 10 myself then maybe trade back at 30 or 62 to recoup some picks if primary targets aren't there.Hell I'd be aggressive and trade up a little from both picks if it means getting their guys
April 5, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, judunno said: Edge, TEs. RBs are pretty good. I think people are thinking trade down because of the lack of day 3 picks. Typical thinking when not looking at the broader picture with the fact that they'll have plenty of 2024 assets to move as they deem fit. I'm on the trade up wagon at 10 myself then maybe trade back at 30 or 62 to recoup some picks if primary targets aren't there.Hell I'd be aggressive and trade up a little from both picks if it means getting their guys With the leaving free agents especially on defense, plus the amount of draft picks next year that includes the comp picks, I've viewed this is a 2 year retooling of the defense. They fill in some pieces this year and get the rest next year. If they use some future picks to acquire more picks this year then it can even out a bit, maybe grab 1 or 2 extra players in the draft this year.
April 5, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, NOTW said: With the leaving free agents especially on defense, plus the amount of draft picks next year that includes the comp picks, I've viewed this is a 2 year retooling of the defense. They fill in some pieces this year and get the rest next year. If they use some future picks to acquire more picks this year then it can even out a bit, maybe grab 1 or 2 extra players in the draft this year. Seems like they've been heavily involved with UDFA rookies when they need bodies as of late especially with the rule changes. I suppose it all depends on how many slots they plan on occupying with rookies. Howie seems to draft between 5-10 guys. I guess he finds more value in the UDFAs instead of day 3 picks when he's lacking draft capital? I agree though they should bring in some more viable talent from the draft that needs development but primarily for STs while they're are learning the ropes. Grab some hungry athletic guys with mean streaks that don't mind crashing into things on STs. Returners that can possibly contribute on offense would be nice too so that we're not wasting spots on specialists.
April 5, 20232 yr More than likely they'll stay at 10 and get a blue-chip prospect on the lines or at corner. Too many interesting prospects at those positions to pass up. 30 I could see them trading out of. Especially if there's one of the QB needy teams that missed out on the top guys and wants the fifth year on Hooker or McKee or someone like that. All depends on how the board breaks.
April 6, 20232 yr QB Hendon Hooker is really picking up steam as a top 20 pick. Hoping he picks up enough steam where a team like Tampa may be willing to move up to 10 for him.
April 6, 20232 yr 7 hours ago, Rey said: QB Hendon Hooker is really picking up steam as a top 20 pick. Hoping he picks up enough steam where a team like Tampa may be willing to move up to 10 for him. I'd find it hard to trade down from 10 all the way to 19. Would have to be a really compelling package.
April 7, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, judunno said: Would have to be a really compelling package. That's what she said.
April 12, 20232 yr On 4/6/2023 at 10:31 AM, Rey said: QB Hendon Hooker is really picking up steam as a top 20 pick. Hoping he picks up enough steam where a team like Tampa may be willing to move up to 10 for him. No man, you want him sliding down to #30. He's exactly the player some team would make a compelling offer to be able to draft him with a 5 year rookie deal.
April 12, 20232 yr Like I said in another thread. Imo Howie will wait to see if Carter slips to us at 10, if not he will trade back in the teens and possibly take Bijan. Imagine getting Bijan and another pick?
April 13, 20232 yr On 4/12/2023 at 2:54 PM, Portyansky said: Like I said in another thread. Imo Howie will wait to see if Carter slips to us at 10, if not he will trade back in the teens and possibly take Bijan. Imagine getting Bijan and another pick? Unfortunately, I don't think Carter will make it to 10. He's to good of a player to pass on. He could be drafted at # 3.
April 14, 20232 yr On 4/13/2023 at 3:39 PM, jsdarkstar said: Unfortunately, I don't think Carter will make it to 10. He's to good of a player to pass on. He could be drafted at # 3. Yeah gonna need to trade up to get him. I wonder if Howie has some trades for established players in his back pocket like he did with AJ should he not land his top 10 target.
April 16, 20232 yr On 4/14/2023 at 2:52 PM, judunno said: Yeah gonna need to trade up to get him. I wonder if Howie has some trades for established players in his back pocket like he did with AJ should he not land his top 10 target. I'm curious about the Eagles potentially landing Budda Baker in a trade. He's openly requested a trade elsewhere versus being made the highest paid safety in the league with the Cardinals, but still has 2 years left on his deal. I'm also intrigued with Kevin Byard, the Titans safety, who also has 2 years left on his deal and is still playing at a high level. He's a Philly native, but also 30 years old, so there may be some hesitation to a trade for Byard with the expectation of a contract extension compared to Baker, who is 27. However, on the flip side, the draft pick compensation required in a trade is likely going to be less with Byard compared to Baker. Especially since Howie has not fared well with his previous endeavors in using 2nd round picks on safeties (Nate Allen, Jaiquawn Jarrett), it's probably worth considering making a trade for a veteran safety in what is not a particularly strong class for safeties compared to CBs.
April 17, 20232 yr 17 hours ago, eaglesfan0075 said: I'm curious about the Eagles potentially landing Budda Baker in a trade. He's openly requested a trade elsewhere versus being made the highest paid safety in the league with the Cardinals, but still has 2 years left on his deal. I'm also intrigued with Kevin Byard, the Titans safety, who also has 2 years left on his deal and is still playing at a high level. He's a Philly native, but also 30 years old, so there may be some hesitation to a trade for Byard with the expectation of a contract extension compared to Baker, who is 27. However, on the flip side, the draft pick compensation required in a trade is likely going to be less with Byard compared to Baker. Especially since Howie has not fared well with his previous endeavors in using 2nd round picks on safeties (Nate Allen, Jaiquawn Jarrett), it's probably worth considering making a trade for a veteran safety in what is not a particularly strong class for safeties compared to CBs. Let's see... Budda is making more than twice what Eagles offered CJGJ and is unhappy with that. So Eagles will have to break the bank for him AND give ARZ a pick? Nope. Byard is also making more than twice, and is 30? And would also cost a pick? That's not gonna happen either.
April 23, 20232 yr I have a feeling that the Safety position from now on may be a string of one year mercenary deals...unless/until they find the next Brian Dawkins
April 24, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, flyerdog said: I have a feeling that the Safety position from now on may be a string of one year mercenary deals...unless/until they find the next Brian Dawkins This does seem like a realistic possibility and the team may very well think the Reed Blankenship is ready for a starting role this year, after showing some potential as a rookie UDFA this past season. Our starters could end up being Terrell Edmunds and Reed Blankenship. Maybe this year the Eagles take another stab at a 2nd round safety? Perhaps if Brian Branch somehow fell out of the 1st round if the Eagles trade back, or maybe Antonio Johnson from Texas A&M?
April 24, 20232 yr Horrible year for the Safety spot unless we draft Branch at 30 ... and even Branch didn't really play traditional Safety ... he played way more as a slot Corner at Bama, but his excellent abilities as a tackler makes him a better fit at Safety than anywhere else.
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