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2 hours ago, toolg said:

Too much money rots your brain.

No wonder my MRI showed no brain rot.

Missing Titanic sub 'did not perform well,' says veteran explorer who nixed documentary over safety concerns

The OceanGate Titan sub went missing on a dive to the Titanic shipwreck site Sunday

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BOSTON – Veteran explorer Josh Gates, who hosts a TV series investigating myths and legends around the world, revealed on Twitter Wednesday that the missing OceanGate sub "did not perform well" when he went on a dive aboard the vessel himself.

The 21-foot deep-sea submersible vanished Sunday morning during an attempt to reach the shipwrecked Titanic, which sank in the Atlantic on the way to New York from England in 1912.

Gates, who hosts "Expedition Unknown" on Discovery, had gone with Stockton Rush, the OceanGate CEO who is now among five missing along with the Titan sub, on a test dive before the vehicle's first visit to the Titanic site.

 

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This file image provided by OceanGate shows the Titan submersible descending into the ocean. (OceanGate Expeditions)

Gates wrote that he missed a chance to see the wreck himself due to fears about OceanGate's actual capabilities – concerns echoed in a 2018 lawsuit brought by a former employee who claimed he'd been wrongfully fired for blowing the whistle on the vehicle's maximum range himself.

"To those asking, #Titan did not perform well on my dive," Gates wrote. "Ultimately, I walked away from a huge opportunity to film Titanic due to my safety concerns w/ the @OceanGate platform."

 

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TV presenter Josh Gates visits Build Series to discuss "Expedition Unknown" at Build Studio on Feb. 5, 2018, in New York City. (Desiree Navarro/WireImage)

In 2018, former OceanGate employee David Lochridge refused to greenlight manned tests of the submersible, according to the lawsuit. The Washington-based company later sued Lochridge for disclosing confidential information, and he filed a counterclaim.

The lawsuit was settled out of court, and Gates made a cryptic comment that there were more flaws with the vessel than publicly known.

WATCH: Missing Titanic sub investigators say 'banging' noises reported but not confirmed to be vessel

"There's more to the history and design of Titan that has not been made public – much of it concerning," Gates wrote.

The "Expedition Unknown" host did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Fox News Digital.

 

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This file image provided by OceanGate shows the Titan submersible descending into the ocean. (OceanGate Expeditions)

Like Hamish Harding, who is also aboard the missing sub, Gates is a member of the Explorers Club – a research-minded international society of adventurers, many of them very wealthy, including the billionaire Amazon founder Jeff Bezos.

The missing Titan sub is estimated to have less than a day's worth of breathable air left.

 

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This undated photo shows the TechnipFMC pipelay vessel Deep Energy. The civilian asset is assisting in the Titan search, with its long-range remote-operated vehicle, which can reach the ocean floor. (TechnipFMC)

Authorities said at a Wednesday news briefing the crew had some food and water, but it was unclear how much. 

However, authorities said they have picked up repeated sounds of banging in the search area and are still treating the mission as a search-and-rescue effort.

The missing crew members are OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush; British businessman Hamish Harding, father-and-son Shahzada and Suleman Dawood, who are members of one of Pakistan’s wealthiest families; and Paul-Henry Nargeolet, a former French navy officer and leading Titanic expert.

 

Again I'm compelled to point out, this is one of five vehicles in the entire World that can reach that depth (which is why they're all dead if it's at the bottom of the ocean) and has done it and come back multiple times, the guy that built it is not just some guy who decided to build a sub in his garage out of trash cans and an old laptop for a bet after a few beers.

By its nature it will sound sketchy as f' because building a vehicle to travel to the bottom of the ocean is not a common thing, you can't buy bits off the shelf at the deep ocean submersible store.

 

34 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

No,, you're right. Totally doesn't add up for this death trap to get lost when it happened before. Something else is going on.

Are you guys ever able to not be a-holes for likes on here? I agreed that the reports are insane and wouldn't be surprised if more crazy info is found

4 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Again I'm compelled to point out, this is one of five vehicles in the entire World that can reach that depth (which is why they're all dead if it's at the bottom of the ocean) and has done it and come back multiple times, the guy that built it is not just some guy who decided to build a sub in his garage out of trash cans and an old laptop for a bet after a few beers.

By its nature it will sound sketchy as f' because building a vehicle to travel to the bottom of the ocean is not a common thing, you can't buy bits off the shelf at the deep ocean submersible store.

 

Reports say in some cases they did just that lol.

34 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Are you guys ever able to not be a-holes for likes on here? I agreed that the reports are insane and wouldn't be surprised if more crazy info is found

Oh.

Don't worry, the Twitter blue checkmarks have this covered from all angles.

 

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1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Are you guys ever able to not be a-holes for likes on here? I agreed that the reports are insane and wouldn't be surprised if more crazy info is found

Come on, man. It's plainly obvious to the rest of us that Don Jr's hot take was clearly conspiratorial, but if you want to disagree, that's your choice. Just don't be surprised when it gets mocked. It's like EagleVA getting upset when jokes about the shape of the earth are made at his expense. 

In 2018, a group of ocean engineers and technologists wrote to the company which owns Titan, the submersible now lost in the Atlantic Ocean, expressing concerns about the small vessel's design and potential "catastrophic" outcomes.

The letter, obtained by The New York Times, was addressed to Stockton Rush, the chief executive of OceanGate, the man who was piloting Titan when it went missing on Sunday with four other people onboard.

 

https://www.9news.com.au/world/missing-titanic-submarine-letter-sent-in-2018-warned-of-potential-catastrophic/a6cd3532-95c3-4248-8e61-90a84d4c0ab5

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1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Are you guys ever able to not be a-holes for likes on here? I agreed that the reports are insane and wouldn't be surprised if more crazy info is found

I’m an a-hole for no likes fwiw

2 hours ago, Paul852 said:

Want to know what 50 year old guys with decades of experience are? Expensive. 

You know what else they are? Too knowledgeable to get anywhere near that death trap. 

25 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

I’m an a-hole for no likes fwiw

Mission Accomplished. 

Just now, vikas83 said:

You know what else they are? Too knowledgeable to get anywhere near that death trap. 

I don't know why I assumed billionaires/millionaires would be smart enough to avoid it as well but here we are.

1 minute ago, Paul852 said:

I don't know why I assumed billionaires/millionaires would be smart enough to avoid it as well but here we are.

Trump, Donald

Musk, Elon

2 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

Are you guys ever able to not be a-holes for likes on here? I agreed that the reports are insane and wouldn't be surprised if more crazy info is found

If I can't be an a-hole here I'd need to be an a-hole in real life....

12 hours ago, Shepard Wong said:

Seems like a gang bang would use up the oxygen faster but I guess if you are going to go, you may as well go out banging.

I'm so glad you beat me to this type of joke.  

Too soon asking for a friend  ^_^

 

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At this point, I don't know that they could save any survivors if they found them right now (assuming that the sub is on the bottom). It takes 4 or 5 hours to surface, and it would take time to get something down there to them to get them back to the surface. From what I've read, the estimate is that their oxygen runs out by about 6 am Eastern time. 

A couple of things that I was thinking about though, suppose that these 'tourists' have large life insurance policies. I wonder if doing this sort of activity, which is extremely life threateningly dangerous, would void their policy.

Also, if rescued, the survivors should be required to pay for the rescue efforts. If not rescued, but only 'recovered', their estates should be required to pay for the rescue/recovery efforts. 

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If they are actually getting bang sounds consecutively every half hour couldn't they use sonars in different directions to triangulate an approximate position?

20 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

At this point, I don't know that they could save any survivors if they found them right now (assuming that the sub is on the bottom). It takes 4 or 5 hours to surface, and it would take time to get something down there to them to get them back to the surface. From what I've read, the estimate is that their oxygen runs out by about 6 am Eastern time. 

A couple of things that I was thinking about though, suppose that these 'tourists' have large life insurance policies. I wonder if doing this sort of activity, which is extremely life threateningly dangerous, would void their policy.

Also, if rescued, the survivors should be required to pay for the rescue efforts. If not rescued, but only 'recovered', their estates should be required to pay for the rescue/recovery efforts. 

 

Oceangate should pay.  They are the ones that built this death trap. 

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