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Supreme Court ends affirmative action in higher ed

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She's not as corrupt as Thomas is, as well. 

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

She withdrew her vote. 

She didn't weigh in on the debate.

But when the vote was complete she was given the honor of writing a dissent.

She withdrew from the process of deciding the case. That's recusal.

Who wrote the dissenting opinion is irrelevant to whether they are recused. If they weren't involved in deciding the case they're recused.

Writing a dissent on a case where she took no part in the consideration?  Sotomayor wrote the dissenting opinion, and a judge who "recuses" herself felt the need to express her ruling of a case.  That is impartial justice!

 

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1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

 

Seems a bit too nuanced @DrPhilly

you weirdos can't even agree when you do

this place 

5 hours ago, Gannan said:

Similarly there are numerous programs and scholarships trying to promote the idea of women going to college. These are extremely outdated policies and practices. Women in college far outnumber men. If anything we need to start reexamining how we raise boys in this society so there aren't so many mentally ill, incel losers who can't earn a decent living when they grow up. 

Honestly the biggest chunk of this is probably the increase in single parent households. And I say this as someone who was raised in a single parent household. 
 

A young boy needs a good male hero/role model to help shape his decisions. Luckily I’ve had one but I’ve seen a lot that haven’t and it showed. The whole you need to be able to be emotional is a crock of ish. You need to be able to control them and understand when it is ok to show them and when it is ok to not.

The right's triumphant and the left despondent, and they both have it completely backwards.  This didn't end affirmative action it enshrined it.  The Supreme Court claimed to be overturning AA by stating the obviously correct position that it gives certain people advantages over others based on their race, but then they immediately turned around and told those putting AA into practice how to get around their ruling.  This was the Hunter Biden plea deal ruling.  It pretends to correct a wrong while explaining how to continue the wrong in perpetuity.  Well done.

2 minutes ago, Bill said:

Honestly the biggest chunk of this is probably the increase in single parent households. And I say this as someone who was raised in a single parent household. 
 

A young boy needs a good male hero/role model to help shape his decisions. Luckily I’ve had one but I’ve seen a lot that haven’t and it showed. The whole you need to be able to be emotional is a crock of ish. You need to be able to control them and understand when it is ok to show them and when it is ok to not.

100% agree. I was also raised by a single mom. With 2 kids of my own (daughter 13, son 10), I can see how much more emotionally stable and well adjusted they are in a 2 parent house hold. They never come home to an empty house, someone is always there to ask about their day and help with their homework. Those things mean a great deal IMO. Its just too hard for one parent, and I fear social media is filling the void of the missing parent. 

Respect, Sleepy Joe. Respect.

Weird to see a president who actually cares about the long-term direction of the country.

 

1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

:lol: ok. 

Jackson has already recused herself from more cases in her short tenure than Thomas has the last 4 years. 

But hang on to the "not true" recusal.

Why do the whatabout on this one?  She absolutely should have just simply recused and not written anything.  What Thomas has done has nothing to do with it.

While I understand the desired outcome of the AA program and its failures, the correct approach as I see it, is that personal descriptors should never enter the decision making process. 

I wonder if this decision will have any effect on scholarships?

 

2 hours ago, vikas83 said:

I laughed
 

 

It's hard not to laugh.

19 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Why do the whatabout on this one?  She absolutely should have just simply recused and not written anything.  What Thomas has done has nothing to do with it.

...and I received the patented @Dave Moss laugh on this one so I know the post is solid

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12 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

...and I received the patented @Dave Moss laugh on this one so I know the post is solid

 

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I'm anxious to see more posts from all of you about how your guy is not as bad as the other guy's guy and how if your guy had done that the other guy wouldn't like it but if the other guy's guy did it they'd be just fine with it because it's not really the same thing but you're just trying to say they're the same so your guy doesn't look bad.

Also, please post some studies and statistics to support your view so the other guy can say your sources of information are bad and post they're own information to counter your information because their sources are better.

Thanks!

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Respect, Sleepy Joe. Respect.

Weird to see a president who actually cares about the long-term direction of the country.

 

I’ll give credit where it’s due, and it is here. Respect to PopPop.

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

Why do the whatabout on this one?  She absolutely should have just simply recused and not written anything.  What Thomas has done has nothing to do with it.

She still was involved with the UNC case, not the Harvard one. 

She recused herself from that decision. 

This really isn't complicated. 

Jackson has shown in her large number of recusals in the cases this term that she has integrity and knows when she should remove herself lest she have a conflict of interest. Contrasting her with Thomas is inevitable, not whataboutism.

 

 

These replies though 

 

 

 

6 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

She still was involved with the UNC case, not the Harvard one. 

She recused herself from that decision. 

This really isn't complicated. 

Jackson has shown in her large number of recusals in the cases this term that she has integrity and knows when she should remove herself lest she have a conflict of interest. Contrasting her with Thomas is inevitable, not whataboutism.

The two were tied together in the opinions. If she wrote a separate opinion that only dealt with UNC it would be one thing and a gray area. She did not. 

I’ve always supported temporary quotas as a glass ceiling / door opening measure but not a tool for driving overall balance in numbers. I think the tool has completed the job on this one and I support the ruling. 

5 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

The two were tied together in the opinions. If she wrote a separate opinion that only dealt with UNC it would be one thing and a gray area. She did not. 

Did she impact the Harvard decision? No.

That's recusal.

The reason you recuse is a conflict of interest that may impact your judgement. She wasn't party to the judgement. 

There's she recused.

Writing an opinion about it after the fact is irrelevant.

 

6 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

 

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This decision goes beyond college admissions, it's going to trickle down to getting jobs.

The one spearheading this reversal, Clarence Thomas, ought to be ashamed of himself, he's the one that received a law degree from Yale and couldn't get a job so he should know.

Thomas stated "the law firms he applied to after graduating from Yale did not take his J.D. seriously, assuming he obtained it because of affirmative action", who the F cares how he obtained it, he got it.  So what does he do, he cut minority students off at the border by making it more difficult to get into college in the first place.

I could walk down through history why minority students are at a disadvantage when it comes to academics but I'll start at the beginning when it comes to African Americans, they wouldn't even let blacks speak in their native language to teach their children.  If you jump forward to today, depending on what side of the tracks you live on you're going to get a better education so naturally you're going to perform better academically, the biggest mistake made is to equate academic performance with intelligence.

I could give numerous stories I've heard concerning college educated minorities not receiving job offers that they were highly qualified for in favor of less qualified white applicants.

Bottom line, you can't depend on those with hiring/admission authority to do the right thing, folks what to hire those that look like them.

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