August 10, 20232 yr Author 42 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Did you miss the part where he said he wasn't cunning? He failed at nearly everything he tried to do in office. Really? Yeah, it wasn't perfect, but there were a lot of successes: 1. Strong economy 2. No war 3. Abraham Accord agreements 4. Southern border was secure 5. Other NATO countries forced to pay their fair share 6. Kept Iranians and North Koreans in check Biggest failures: 1. pushing the Covid vaccines 2. tax cuts were not warranted and helped blow up the deficit 3. lack of political connections in Congress made it practically impossible for him to get legislation passed. People like you generally focus on the noise and talking points and rarely examine the actual important issues. Quite often, obnoxious, unlikable people can get the job done where others cannot.
August 10, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Procus said: Really? Yeah, it wasn't perfect, but there were a lot of successes: 1. Strong economy 2. No war 3. Abraham Accord agreements 4. Southern border was secure 5. Other NATO countries forced to pay their fair share 6. Kept Iranians and North Koreans in check Biggest failure for which I will not forgive him is getting in bed with Fauci and pushing the Covid vaccines. As well, his lack of political connections in Congress made it practically impossible for him to get legislation passed. People like you generally focus on the noise and talking points and rarely examine the actual important issues. 1. Until the economy collapsed and he ended his term having lost 3 million jobs, whoops. 2. We were literally at war the entire time he was president. He even ordered more drone attacks in one term than Obama did in a single term. 3. Peace between countries that weren't in direct conflict. Cool. 4. No it wasn't. 5. No they weren't. NATO countries have actually started building their military's under Biden. Something Trump failed to do. 6. He took pictures and wrote love letters to Un. Accomplished absolutely nothing. And 100% sheet the bed with Iran. Tearing up the nuke deal was probably the worst foreign policy decision in US history. Got nothing out of it. Failed to get a new deal. Handed them a nuke a silver platter. You truly have to be a drooling idiot to think that was anything but a complete faceplant. The fact that you have it on a list of accomplishments tells me just how deep in the cult you are.
August 10, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, sameaglesfan said: I am a registered Republican - but I have not - nor would I ever - have voted for the Orange Game Show Host.
August 10, 20232 yr Republican, voted for Trump twice... liked his America first policies. In the PA primary I will not be voting for Trump again as I feel he probably won't win the presidential election because all presidential elections are decided by the middle (10-15%?) of the nations voters.
August 10, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, mr_hunt said: independent = embarrassed to admit they're registered members of the cheeto party! Actually I was never registered Republican. Originally I was registered Dem and then switched to independent in my 20s. 4 hours ago, Dave Moss said: CVON Independents: Although maybe I should switch back.
August 11, 20232 yr Author 3 hours ago, Bill said: Actually I was never registered Republican. Originally I was registered Dem and then switched to independent in my 20s. Although maybe I should switch back. Don't let the door slam your butt on the way out
August 11, 20232 yr 15 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: We should take it a step further and allow anyone to be able to vote in both primaries. I'd be curious if we'd get less polarizing candidates under such a system in all states. That's a really good sentiment - but I think it would only make things worse.
August 11, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, sameaglesfan said: That's a really good sentiment - but I think it would only make things worse. I really don't see how you get worse than Trump. Honestly. He's the most extreme candidate I can think of that's ever been nominated. By having closed primaries you get only the most passionate and politically fanatical voters to nominate a candidate. As you open them up to more of the rest of the electorate, the resulting candidates should become more moderate, I'd think. I know it's not a comforting thought that "the political enemy" voters could help vote for your party's candidate, but that's the very same tribal mindset that gave us Trump as president in the first place. We all keep saying how much we hated both options in the last two elections (soon to be the last three elections), well maybe having fully open primaries would've drawn in more independent voters during the primaries and possibly given us some better options for the general.
August 11, 20232 yr 20 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I really don't see how you get worse than Trump. Honestly. He's the most extreme candidate I can think of that's ever been nominated. By having closed primaries you get only the most passionate and politically fanatical voters to nominate a candidate. As you open them up to more of the rest of the electorate, the resulting candidates should become more moderate, I'd think. I know it's not a comforting thought that "the political enemy" voters could help vote for your party's candidate, but that's the very same tribal mindset that gave us Trump as president in the first place. We all keep saying how much we hated both options in the last two elections (soon to be the last three elections), well maybe having fully open primaries would've drawn in more independent voters during the primaries and possibly given us some better options for the general. You are correct in that Trump is seemingly the worst ever - but just when it seems things can get no worse - we wind up with dreadful choices. I think maybe including the independants might be a step in a postive direction. I was always independant, but registered Rep to support a friend of mine locally.
August 11, 20232 yr 18 hours ago, Procus said: Republicans - no surprises there . . . Especially among those staunch conservatives Hunt, Alpha and Booger Imagine making a poll and then arguing about the responses because they are not what they expected. Seems crazy! Oh, wait...
August 11, 20232 yr 18 hours ago, vikas83 said: Because he's an imbecile. "Working against him" lmao.
August 11, 20232 yr 11 hours ago, Procus said: Don't let the door slam your butt on the way out Classic independent move here. "Get the F out of my...not affiliated party!"
August 11, 20232 yr 28 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Classic independent move here. "Get the F out of my...not affiliated party!" The lack of awareness is constant with that one.
August 11, 20232 yr I think North Carolina has the right idea on primaries (its just about the only thing I liked in NC aside form the beaches). You can vote in either primary, but you have to pick one. So if someone is voting for a candidate they dislike just to try to sink the other party, they are giving up their own vote. I also wouldn't be opposed to parties choosing their own presidential candidates in smoke filled back rooms they way they used to do it.
August 11, 20232 yr I’m registered as a Libertarian but haven’t actually paid dues since the Mises Caucus hijacked the LPPA. I might get involved if Amash runs but I have been thinking about changing my registration back to the GOP so I can vote for Christie.
August 11, 20232 yr Author 20 hours ago, greenskeeper said: Republican, voted for Trump twice... liked his America first policies. In the PA primary I will not be voting for Trump again as I feel he probably won't win the presidential election because all presidential elections are decided by the middle (10-15%?) of the nations voters. All bets are off if there's a strong third party candidate like Joe Manchin
August 11, 20232 yr Author 2 hours ago, Mike030270 said: Surprised by some of results considering the Trump and Biden threads Not everybody was truthful. Do you seriously believe that Hunt and Alpha are Republicans?
August 11, 20232 yr Author 4 hours ago, Gannan said: I also wouldn't be opposed to parties choosing their own presidential candidates in smoke filled back rooms they way they used to do it. That's pretty much what happened with the Democrats in 2020
August 11, 20232 yr Author 5 hours ago, Boogyman said: Imagine making a poll and then arguing about the responses because they are not what they expected. Seems crazy! Oh, wait... No argument. Just lies - unless of course you expect to see Hunt voting in the next Republican primary
August 11, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Procus said: Not everybody was truthful. Do you seriously believe that Hunt and Alpha are Republicans? "The results were not what I expected so they can't be true" Definitely seeing a pattern here.
August 11, 20232 yr Author Just now, Boogyman said: "The results were not what I expected so they can't be true" Definitely seeing a pattern here. No you're right, CVON is populated with conservative republicans. Any clear minded person can see that. What could I have possibly been thinking?
August 11, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Procus said: I don't want it to be true so I don't believe it Yeah, we know.
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