2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

No no I say the same thing about lions and gazelles...so similar...hair, four legs, teeth, eyes....nearly indistinguishable.  Maybe one day theyll learn to get along.

Oh gotcha, it's not about religion, they've just been fighting for so long because they're hungry. Makes perfect sense now, thanks for clearing that up for me.

4 hours ago, Mike31mt said:

No no I say the same thing about hookers...so similar...hair (hopefully not... yuck!), two legs, a few teeth if you're lucky, two eyes if you're lucky...nearly indistinguishable.  Maybe one day they'll learn to get along by slobbing on my knob

truth!

I've been saying this for years !

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/21/business/starbucks-israel-war-union/index.html

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New York
CNN
 — 
Starbucks chief executive Laxman Narasimhan on Tuesday said people protesting the company and disrupting its stores over the Israel-Hamas war were being misled by false information spread online about the company’s positions.

"We see protestors influenced by misrepresentation on social media of what we stand for,” Narasimhan said in a letter to Starbucks employees and customers.

"Cities around the world – including here in North America – have seen escalating protests. Many of our stores have experienced incidents of vandalism,” he said. "We have worked with local authorities to ensure our partners and customers are safe.”

The letter is a way of attempting to untangle Starbucks from controversies related to the war. Starbucks has also tried to distance itself from pro-Palestine positions taken by Starbucks Workers United, a union for Starbucks workers, that have angered some pro-Israel supporters.

At the same time, it is facing softer holiday sales, according to analyst estimates. Its stock suffered the longest drop in its history, a 12-day slide ending earlier this month. Starbucks is also fighting off union pressure over pay and working conditions and accusations of illegal anti-union tactics.

The coffee company said some of the protests related to the war in Gaza resulted directly from the union’s comments. More than 350 of the company’s roughly 9,300 corporate-owned stores in the United States are unionized.

Shortly after Hamas’ October 7 terrorist attacks against Israel, the union, Starbucks Workers United, posted "Solidarity with Palestine” on social media platform X. Below the image was an image of a bulldozer operated by Hamas tearing down a fence on the Gaza strip during the attacks against Israel, according to some news organizations that saw the post.

The tweet was not authorized by the union or its workers, and the union’s account quickly deleted the tweet — but it sparked some calls for a boycott of Starbucks on social media by pro-Israel supporters.

Starbucks said some of the protests related to the war in Gaza resulted directly from the union’s comments. More than 350 of the company’s roughly 9,300 corporate-owned stores in the United States are unionized.

Starbucks distanced itself from the tweet.

"We unequivocally condemn these acts of terrorism, hate and violence, and disagree with the statements and views expressed by Workers United and its members,” Starbucks said in a post. "Workers United’s words and actions belong to them, and them alone,” the company added.

Starbucks also filed a lawsuit against the union, alleging trademark infringement and demanding the union stop using its name and logos. The association with the union was damaging its reputation and putting its workers in harm’s way, Starbucks said.

The union filed a counter lawsuit in October, claiming Starbucks falsely attacked the union’s reputation.

"The company’s statements are a transparent effort to bolster its illegal anti-union campaign by falsely attacking the union’s reputation with workers and the public,” the suit alleged.

The union endorsed a statement from Jewish Voice for Peace in October condemning Hamas’ attacks on Israel and calling for "people of conscience to stop the imminent genocide of Palestinians.”

 

 

 

How can people be this stupid? 

Also, when did the Long Beach City Council start making foreign policy? 

 

11 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

How can people be this stupid? 

Also, when did the Long Beach City Council start making foreign policy? 

 

You heard of elf on a shelf, now get read for morons in a forum.

10 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

How can people be this stupid? 

You knew the answer before you asked the question.  It California.

 

had a conversation with my gen z kid who's home from college. his observation is that some of gen z sees israel as too chummy with "the west"...and "the west" bad. broad generalization for sure but that's the vibe he's seeing on campus. one of his roommates has family in israel & one of his friends from class is palestinian...so he's being exposed to a number of different viewpoints. oh, and apparently there's a chunk of gen z'ers who think rfk jr is an interesting option.

in conclusion, we're f'd. 

I blame @Dave Moss

5 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

had a conversation with my gen z kid who's home from college. his observation is that some of gen z sees israel as too chummy with "the west"...and "the west" bad. broad generalization for sure but that's the vibe he's seeing on campus. one of his roommates has family in israel & one of his friends from class is palestinian...so he's being exposed to a number of different viewpoints. oh, and apparently there's a chunk of gen z'ers who think rfk jr is an interesting option.

in conclusion, we're f'd. 

This entire generation (really 2 generations because it's millennials too) has been taught to simply divide the world into oppressors and the oppressed, and that anything done by the oppressed is justified and anything done by oppressors is to further a system of white supremacy. To them the Palestinians are the oppressed, which makes the Israelis evil and all actions by Hamas are justified. Basically, they are taught all the ills in the world can be traced back to western (i.e., White) culture. And that's how you end up with idiots supporting a group of people that basically haven't progressed beyond the 7th century -- and you get great comedy like "Queers for Palestine."

5 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

This entire generation (really 2 generations because it's millennials too) has been taught to simply divide the world into oppressors and the oppressed, and that anything done by the oppressed is justified and anything done by oppressors is to further a system of white supremacy. To them the Palestinians are the oppressed, which makes the Israelis evil and all actions by Hamas are justified. Basically, they are taught all the ills in the world can be traced back to western (i.e., White) culture. And that's how you end up with idiots supporting a group of people that basically haven't progressed beyond the 7th century -- and you get great comedy like "Queers for Palestine."

Yep, it really is that simple.  Munson and @Dave Moss thinking.

8 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Yep, it really is that simple.  Munson and @Dave Moss thinking.

FWIW - 

Spoiler

Most people are pretty okay with getting rid of Hamas/killing them. They're just not okay with the way in which they're doing it, which is killing a lot of innoncents and, seemingly, doing some pretty brutal and farged up things if reports are to be believed.

munson - circa 12/21/23 

 

@Alpha_TATEr and Munson 

sitting in a tree

F-E-L-T-C-H-I-N-G

Just now, paco said:

@Alpha_TATEr and Munson 

sitting in a tree

F-E-L-T-C-H-I-N-G

jealousy 

17 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

FWIW - 

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Most people are pretty okay with getting rid of Hamas/killing them. They're just not okay with the way in which they're doing it, which is killing a lot of innoncents and, seemingly, doing some pretty brutal and farged up things if reports are to be believed.

munson - circa 12/21/23 

 

Yeah, where do you see him saying that?

6 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Yeah, where do you see him saying that?

its a copy of a post of his from another site. 

the secret mb where you talk sheet about all the nerds on here?  

7 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

its a copy of a post of his from another site. 

Ok, fair enough though I don't seem to see too many people from the visible far left taking that stance, at least not publicly.  Good for Munson (for once).

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Ok, fair enough though I don't seem to see too many people from the visible far left taking that stance, at least not publicly.  Good for Munson (for once).

yeah, who could've imagined that dave moss would be too far left for munson ? 

1 minute ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

yeah, who could've imagined that dave moss would be too far left for munson ? 

Yeah, that's an interesting one.  Maybe Munson is starting to make the classic move right as he ages and grows wiser.

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

Ok, fair enough though I don't seem to see too many people from the visible left taking that stance, at least not publicly.  Good for Munson (for once).

Eh...it's BS. They say they are for Hamas being defeated, but then call Israel a bunch of war criminals for trying to make that happen. They blame Israelis for the death of Palestinian civilians as opposed to the cowards that hide behind them. They all accept the stories and statistics put out by Hamas and call Israelis a bunch of murderers...remember, they all jumped on the hospital story. Never mind that Hamas was using it as a base, the head of the hospital is a member of Hamas, and Hamas is the one that actually killed people. It is all Israel's fault. 

I find it even more offensive when they say Israel has a right to defend itself...and then criticize any action Israel takes to defend itself. 

I wish Hamas didn't hide behind civilians. I wish Hamas actually cared about the Palestinian people. They don't. If someone has ACTUAL EVIDENCE of Israel committing a war crime, then I am all ears (the soldiers that shot hostages should face charges even if it was a mistake). Until then I'll place the blame for civilian casualties where it belongs -- on the cowards of Hamas.

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Eh...it's BS. They say they are for Hamas being defeated, but then call Israel a bunch of war criminals for trying to make that happen. They blame Israelis for the death of Palestinian civilians as opposed to the cowards that hide behind them. They all accept the stories and statistics put out by Hamas and call Israelis a bunch of murderers...remember, they all jumped on the hospital story. Never mind that Hamas was using it as a base, the head of the hospital is a member of Hamas, and Hamas is the one that actually killed people. It is all Israel's fault. 

I find it even more offensive when they say Israel has a right to defend itself...and then criticize any action Israel takes to defend itself. 

I wish Hamas didn't hide behind civilians. I wish Hamas actually cared about the Palestinian people. They don't. If someone has ACTUAL EVIDENCE of Israel committing a war crime, then I am all ears (the soldiers that shot hostages should face charges even if it was a mistake). Until then I'll place the blame for civilian casualties where it belongs -- on the cowards of Hamas.

Baby steps for Munson.

1 hour ago, mr_hunt said:

the secret mb where you talk sheet about all the nerds on here?  

shhhhh

There's also this. So awesome we've got a generation of morons that won't read books and get their info from Tik Tok.