May 13, 20241 yr 16 hours ago, Gannan said: And Israel was at war for how many of those years? entirely unprovoked, right?
May 13, 20241 yr 14 hours ago, Arthur Jackson said: @Mike31mt achieving enough self-awareness to become embarrassed is about as likely as the governor of Texas beating a campfire girl in a kickboxing match.
May 13, 20241 yr 14 hours ago, vikas83 said: They didn’t have settlements in Gaza before 10/7. How does defeating Hamas, and likely strengthening the Palestinian Authority, expand settlements in the West Bank? You have more power and authority than the PLO
May 13, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Arthur Jackson said: tired? he's 102, so he tends to nod off in mid conversation at times.
May 13, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said: https://www.thejewishnews.com/news/un-blames-fog-of-war-for-major-overcounting-of-gazan-child-deaths/article_5e1c3614-1139-11ef-a5f4-fbb240ae3f01.html Whoops, hey what's a 40% over-estimate of civilian casualties among friends, right? Who would have thought that taking numbers at face value from a terrorist organization and running with them blindly would have turned out to result in false information? Look I hope you're right. I hope it's only few civilians here and there that are being killed. It's hard not believe my own eyes and the constant carnage I'm seeing though.
May 13, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Gannan said: Look I hope you're right. I hope it's only few civilians here and there that are being killed. It's hard not believe my own eyes and the constant carnage I'm seeing though. Oh, you mean you're over there seeing this in person?
May 13, 20241 yr 48 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: You have more power and authority than the PLO Time to change your profile pict to honor this guy Dave
May 13, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Gannan said: Look I hope you're right. I hope it's only few civilians here and there that are being killed. It's hard not believe my own eyes and the constant carnage I'm seeing though. Which is curated to get the emotional outrage…
May 13, 20241 yr 29 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: Which is curated to get the emotional outrage… I hope so. I'm serious. I hope that it isn't nearly as bad as it's being portrayed.
May 13, 20241 yr 30 minutes ago, Procus said: Oh, you mean you're over there seeing this in person? I know as a Trumper News isn't really your thing, but you are aware there's an invention called television, and on this invention they show shows right? They also show news. I can't go a single evening without seeing dead children on the nightly news. https://www.nbcnews.com/video/israeli-airstrikes-kill-ordinary-citizens-in-central-and-southern-gaza-209156677697 https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/baby-left-behind-in-gaza-now-thriving-under-care-of-doctor-turned-mother-210706501696 https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/war-in-gaza-takes-heavy-toll-on-children-202033733919 Is this all being staged? Is that what you're going with?
May 13, 20241 yr 54 minutes ago, Gannan said: I know as a Trumper News isn't really your thing, but you are aware there's an invention called television, and on this invention they show shows right? They also show news. I can't go a single evening without seeing dead children on the nightly news. https://www.nbcnews.com/video/israeli-airstrikes-kill-ordinary-citizens-in-central-and-southern-gaza-209156677697 https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/baby-left-behind-in-gaza-now-thriving-under-care-of-doctor-turned-mother-210706501696 https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/war-in-gaza-takes-heavy-toll-on-children-202033733919 Is this all being staged? Is that what you're going with? FWIW, the articles coming out today about the decreased count of Palestinian women and children casualties are based of of an almost daily report released by the UN. One from the 6th: https://www.ochaopt.org/content/hostilities-gaza-strip-and-israel-reported-impact-day-213 One from the 8th: https://www.ochaopt.org/content/hostilities-gaza-strip-and-israel-reported-impact-day-215 You can see the changed counts on the graphic for the daily cumulative fatalities chart colored orange on both pages. There is no explanation for the changes so personally I'm holding off on reacting to the change until hopefully an explanation comes out or at least we see the changes hold over successive releases to indicate this isn't an unintended change. I certainly hope it's true and I'm far more skeptical of the counts releases by Hamas than many people seem to be but this is nothing to celebrate. It should give people pause from putting too much faith in the numbers but that won't happen. As far as the videos you see they can be real and the numbers can still be lower than the initial reports. It's not mutually exclusive. We're parsing how many awful things are happening, not whether they are happening at all.
May 13, 20241 yr Author 7 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said: As far as the videos you see they can be real and the numbers can still be lower than the initial reports. It's not mutually exclusive. We're parsing how many awful things are happening, not whether they are happening at all. Exactly. Clearly there are awful things happening.
May 13, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Gannan said: I hope so. I'm serious. I hope that it isn't nearly as bad as it's being portrayed. Of course its not. Honesty has never been the goal
May 13, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Gannan said: Look I hope you're right. I hope it's only few civilians here and there that are being killed. It's hard not believe my own eyes and the constant carnage I'm seeing though. Of course it’s not just "a few” civilians. The typical civilian casualty rate in modern urban warfare is somewhere between 67% to 90% of total casualties. In other words, 2 civilians per every 1 combatant. Or as high as 9 civilians for every combatant. That’s the tragic reality of war. The updated UN numbers would mean a civilian casualty rate of about 50%, or a 1:1 civilian to combatant ratio. In other words better than most recent wars in the world. Especially noteworthy given how Hamas embeds itself within the civilian population. The narrative that Israel is just dropping bombs Willy nilly with total disregard for civilians is rubbish and the facts and data rebut this false claim.
May 14, 20241 yr The same reporting strategy the US uses during a ****ty economy. The United Nations has seemingly revised the estimated number of women and children it believes have been killed in Gaza during Israel’s war on Hamas, blaming the "fog of war” for the mistake.
May 14, 20241 yr 12 hours ago, Procus said: Your current administration have little credibility left on the world stage. Leaving international partners as they did in Afghanistan won't be forgotten for a long time; their actions said a lot. The inability to negotiate in Ukraine and Israel is obvious - and as for the UK, the idiot PM is as a useful as chocolate tea pot in the Sahara desert, so we're not helping the efforts at all.
May 14, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, UK Eagle said: Leaving international partners as they did in Afghanistan won't be forgotten for a long time I know right? Who even made that deal with the Taliban to withdraw from Afghanistan anyway?
May 14, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: I know right? Who even made that deal with the Taliban to withdraw from Afghanistan anyway? "Waaah it was the last guys fault, I only had 8 months to do anything about it" Biden is never responsible for any of his infinite F ups.
May 14, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, UK Eagle said: Your current administration have little credibility left on the world stage. Leaving international partners as they did in Afghanistan won't be forgotten for a long time; their actions said a lot. The inability to negotiate in Ukraine and Israel is obvious - and as for the UK, the idiot PM is as a useful as chocolate tea pot in the Sahara desert, so we're not helping the efforts at all. I hope Princess Kate is doing better
May 14, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: I know right? Who even made that deal with the Taliban to withdraw from Afghanistan anyway? And who decided to expedite the withdrawal, when the fighting season was still on in Afghanistan, leaving the Taliban a heck load of modern military equipment to be disbursed around the world as a bonus and months to destabilise the govt? Anyone who knows Afghanistan could tell you there are periods of the year when the Taliban would fight and not. At least the orange man understood that and that plan wasn't just a case of bye bye, we're off to chase votes for the mid terms the year after. The Biden admin were beyond woeful in Afghanistan. They botched it
May 14, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Dave Moss said: I hope Princess Kate is doing better I do. She seems to be a good person stuck in a weird family. If the kids grow up to be kind of normal, she should be sainted!
May 14, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: "Waaah it was the last guys fault, I only had 8 months to do anything about it" Biden is never responsible for any of his infinite F ups. I know being illiterate and all is an incredible disadvantage for you, on top of being raised by public schools in West Virginia, but our limey friend was referring to the decision to leave Afghanistan in the first place.
May 14, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, UK Eagle said: And who decided to expedite the withdrawal, when the fighting season was still on in Afghanistan, leaving the Taliban a heck load of modern military equipment to be disbursed around the world as a bonus and months to destabilise the govt? Anyone who knows Afghanistan could tell you there are periods of the year when the Taliban would fight and not. At least the orange man understood that and that plan wasn't just a case of bye bye, we're off to chase votes for the mid terms the year after. The Biden admin were beyond woeful in Afghanistan. They botched it Bwahahahahahahahahahaaha! There's a horde of retarded trumpbots abroad too? That's pretty cool.
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