October 27, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, VanHammersly said: True. And it becomes even more complicated when you throw Russia into the mix. The Pro-Russia right in America praises Putin and trashes the Western way of life. And yet they're largely anti-Hamas, while ignoring the fact that Russia is financing and even potentially coordinating with Hamas. When you look at it honestly, the extreme left and the MAGA right have more in common than the moderates do with the extremes of their parties. Ill give you credit, you try so hard to speak this into existence. Kinda like the "Republicans are Socialists" thing.
October 27, 20231 yr 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said: New Axis of Evil. Cool. North Korea is supplying Russia with literally tonnage of weapons. It's the same Axis but it's simply growing. There have also been reports I have not been able to verify yet stating that Hamas fighters had N. Korean weapons on Oct 7.
October 27, 20231 yr 19 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: New Axis of Evil. Cool. I'm sure China loves this as well. If this does escalate Taiwan is screwed.There won't be a damn thing we can do about it with our carriers in the Med. We currently have 11 carrier strike groups in service. We are good. Let's put this into perspective. In Iraq and Afghanistan over 20 years the US lost 7054 soldiers. Russia in two years has lost potentially hundreds of thousands of soldiers. I say bring it on Mr Putin.
October 27, 20231 yr 8 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Ill give you credit, you try so hard to speak this into existence. Kinda like the "Republicans are Socialists" thing. MAGA republicans are definitely collectivists who love them some Putin.
October 27, 20231 yr 2 minutes ago, EagleFan85 said: We currently have 11 carrier strike groups in service. We are good. Hopefully, I'm wrong. How many does China have, though?
October 27, 20231 yr 12 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Ill give you credit, you try so hard to speak this into existence. Kinda like the "Republicans are Socialists" thing. Right. Because there's no Pro-Russia/anti-America contingent on the right.
October 27, 20231 yr 5 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Hopefully, I'm wrong. How many does China have, though? China has 2 or 3 active diesel carriers with a bunch of crappy old Jets and a few 5th Gen fighters. Last I heard their newest and most advanced carrier had a crack develop across the entirety of the deck. It's out of service. They have no nuclear powered carriers which dramatically limits them when compared to ours.
October 27, 20231 yr 1 minute ago, EagleFan85 said: China has two or 3 active diesel carriers with a bunch of crappy old Jets and a few 5th Gen fighters. Really? I thought they really expanded, but maybe I was thinking subs. I also thought they copied our fighters on a higher scale. Interesting.
October 27, 20231 yr 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Really? I thought they really expanded, but maybe I was thinking subs. I also thought they copied our fighters on a higher scale. Interesting. They currently have more ships than us but of much lesser quality. Their 5th gen stealth fighters are not nearly as stealthy as ours from what I have read. They have expanded rapidly but are still more than a decade away from being able to truly challenge the US Navy.
October 27, 20231 yr 11 minutes ago, Gannan said: MAGA republicans are definitely collectivists who love them some Putin. We literally had a MAGA right winger on here that's entire existence was dedicated to praising Russia and trashing America until he was banned.
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October 27, 20231 yr 27 minutes ago, EagleFan85 said: We currently have 11 carrier strike groups in service. We are good. Let's put this into perspective. In Iraq and Afghanistan over 20 years the US lost 7054 soldiers. Russia in two years has lost potentially hundreds of thousands of soldiers. I say bring it on Mr Putin. The carriers are extremely vulnerable in a Taiwan invasion scenario. Most war games have us losing carriers as part of the opening salvo.
October 27, 20231 yr 7 minutes ago, TEW said: The carriers are extremely vulnerable in a Taiwan invasion scenario. Most war games have us losing carriers as part of the opening salvo. That is true. A Taiwan invasion would be a messy affair. But China currently has limited means to counter our super quiet and very vicious nuclear Subs. We have a lot of tools they simply don't have. Our biggest issue in terms of China is their hypersonic missle program. We are behind in that regard.
October 27, 20231 yr 1 minute ago, EagleFan85 said: That is true. A Taiwan invasion would be a messy affair. But China currently has limited means to counter our super quiet and very vicious nuclear Subs. We have a lot of tools they simply don't have. Our biggest issue in terms of China is their hypersonic middle program. We are behind in that regard. I’d say our biggest problem is the distances involved. Our aircraft, specifically fighters, don’t have the range necessary. That means we either have to put carriers in range of those hypersonic weapons or we have to run a very complicated mid air refueling operation which puts a lot of air assets at risk.
October 27, 20231 yr But wait...there's more! Whatta think @Mike31mt? Wanna reconsider that there's no pro-Putin faction on the right?
October 27, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, TEW said: I’d say our biggest problem is the distances involved. Our aircraft, specifically fighters, don’t have the range necessary. That means we either have to put carriers in range of those hypersonic weapons or we have to run a very complicated mid air refueling operation which puts a lot of air assets at risk. China's hypersonic missles can reach all of our bases in the region. That is a pretty large problem. But China may be overstating the missiles themselves. They claim to have hypersonic weapons. But as we have seen in Ukraine, Russia's so called hypersonic kinsal missiles are not true hypersonic weapons. They are only called that for propaganda purposes. I would bet China is in a similar boat. Our Hypersonic program is coming along nicely from what I have read and we spend a lot more money to get things done correctly. Much of China's force is still very much a paper tiger. But it's important to remember that a paper tiger can bite. Their navy has about a hundred or so more ships than ours. But these numbers are a bit off considering a lot of those boats are literally fishing vessels that are considered part of the maritime patrol force. Many others are 50 to 70 year old Soviet designed ships. They have limited modern equipment.
October 27, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, EagleFan85 said: That is true. A Taiwan invasion would be a messy affair. But China currently has limited means to counter our super quiet and very vicious nuclear Subs. We have a lot of tools they simply don't have. Our biggest issue in terms of China is their hypersonic missle program. We are behind in that regard. That and the potential they take our satellites down via hack or some other means. The obvious big advantage is also supply chains and our reinforcements literally being on the other side of the world.
October 27, 20231 yr Author 4 hours ago, VanHammersly said: True. And it becomes even more complicated when you throw Russia into the mix. The Pro-Russia right in America praises Putin and trashes the Western way of life. And yet they're largely anti-Hamas, while ignoring the fact that Russia is financing and even potentially coordinating with Hamas. When you look at it honestly, the extreme left and the MAGA right have more in common than the moderates do with the extremes of their parties. both sider you
October 27, 20231 yr 3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: both sider you Difference is Democrats will at least acknowledge what's right in front of our faces. I fully admit there's a faction of the left that sides with Hamas in this fight. I'm sure in a lot of their minds, they're simply siding with innocent civilians but when they frame Israel as the bad guy here, they're literally siding with terrorists. A huge contingent of the right has full-on sided with Russia for a year and a half now, all the way from regular nutcases to Congressmen to the freaking Republican Presidential candidate, making excuses for or even praising Russia, as they invade a country and slaughter women and children...and Mike still can't admit to it. He'll literally read those quotes by right wingers and still pretend they're not Pro-Russia. Their cult is stronger than reality.
October 27, 20231 yr Author 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: Difference is Democrats will at least acknowledge what's right in front of our faces. I fully admit there's a faction of the left that sides with Hamas in this fight. I'm sure in a lot of their minds, they're simply siding with innocent civilians but when they frame Israel as the bad guy here, they're literally siding with terrorists. A huge contingent of the right has full-on sided with Russia for a year and a half now, all the way from regular nutcases to Congressmen to the freaking Republican Presidential candidate, making excuses for or even praising Russia, as they invade a country and slaughter women and children...and Mike still can't admit to it. He'll literally read those quotes by right wingers and still pretend they're not Pro-Russia. Their cult is stronger than reality. I think the difference is that the nuts on the right have eaten their way deeper into the fabric of the party thanks to Trump. The nuts are the same.
October 27, 20231 yr It was a dick thing and cold blooded but I don't see how they can be compared. I think a better comparison would be if he were asked about any innocent Russian civilians that were killed during the war. He'd likely give the same response that it's a tragedy of war
October 27, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, VanHammersly said: But wait...there's more! Whatta think @Mike31mt? Wanna reconsider that there's no pro-Putin faction on the right? I feel like pointing out how wrong WV Mike consistently is, is kinda of like beating up the retarded kid, but he's just so vastly wrong about GD everything, it just needs to be done.
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