Obama's FBI too? How far back does this Deep State treachery go?

Apple Fights Court Order to Unlock San Bernardino Shooter's iPhone

https://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/us/security/news/online-privacy/apple-fights-court-order-to-unlock-shooters-iphone

I mean I’d imagine being shot at and being hit anywhere in the head area at an event where others were shot and one died is a traumatic experience. The golfing right away is stupid because he probably should take some time to actually process what happened. But it does take a tough person to get right up and keep going. Or a crazy person. Either or. 

11 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Depending on what the device is they simply may not be able to get past the lock.  Some locked devices just aren't crackable at this point, e.g. iPhone 14/15.

Others can take days/weeks depending on the length and complexity of the passcode.

Hold it up to his face. Shouldn’t it open? 

1 minute ago, 20dawk4life said:

How was the shooter stopped?

A good guy with a gun!

Just now, 20dawk4life said:

Hold it up to his face. Shouldn’t it open? 

Shirley, you can't be serious.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

A good guy with a gun!

Exactly!!!

12 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

What the actual hell??? I'm not into tinfoil hats, but that is pretty inexcusable. I read something stating the SS snipers can't just take someone out until they see a weapon, but you'd think someone could have responded quicker. If some idiot 20-year-old can get that close, we are blessed that it wasn't some foreign agent with training. 

That roof should have been a counter sniper location... which eliminates it as a potential shooting location for a would be assassin.  

Just now, 20dawk4life said:

Hold it up to his face. Shouldn’t it open? 

Yeah, if he had facial recognition setup and his face was intact.  I'm going to guess that approach isn't going to work or they would have already opened the device by now.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

Shirley, you can't be serious.

My names not Shirley and I’m kind of joking but kind of serious. I have a button still cause I’m cheap and get the SE but why can’t they just hold it up to his face? 
 

im not saying you tell the public that’s what happened. 

Just now, DrPhilly said:

Yeah, if he had facial recognition setup and his face was intact.  I'm going to guess that approach isn't going to work or they would have already opened the device by now.

They wouldn’t use the finger prints for the CA terrorist before because of some law. I have no idea if his face was blown off or not. 

1 minute ago, 20dawk4life said:

My names not Shirley and I’m kind of joking but kind of serious. I have a button still cause I’m cheap and get the SE but why can’t they just hold it up to his face? 
 

im not saying you tell the public that’s what happened. 

Probably would have to put his face back together 

4 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

They wouldn’t use the finger prints for the CA terrorist before because of some law. I have no idea if his face was blown off or not. 

Fingerprint/facial lock opening has most certainly been done many times over by govt officials, legal or not.  Not all devices have that feature and not everyone sets it up.

btw - Cali has some of the tougher laws when it comes to law enforcement and getting data off of cell phones.

3 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

They wouldn’t use the finger prints for the CA terrorist before because of some law. I have no idea if his face was blown off or not. 

face should be pretty ok. From what Ive read in this thread, SS responded with pellet guns.

28 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Battle bots?

Love that show

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Fingerprint/facial lock opening has most certainly been done many times over by govt officials, legal or not.  Not all devices have that feature and not everyone sets it up.

Sure but my guess is a 20 year old didn’t think this through when he got his phone. Idk anyone that doesn’t use face or fingerprint. 

I have a hard time believing a bunch of perverts on 4chan can hack and leak half of Hollywood's nudes but the federal government can't crack some mid west incel's iPhone 3. Whether or not they'd actually tell us is another thing. 

18 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Trump takes a cart so yeah.  Carrying a bag up and down hills for 4+ hours is not a bad bit of exercise for a 78yr old though.  Walking 18 is 5-6 miles depending on the course.

Lot more if you can't find your ball.

13 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

How was the shooter stopped?

Well, the first good guy with a gun took a pass, so it wasn't until after the shooter killed people, that others took action.

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

Not that I really believe the NY Post, but if true relying on local PD to secure a presidential political rally in a rural area seems ill advised. 

 

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I used to play softball with some friends from high school, one of which ended up becoming a USSS agent. From the stories he would tell, they were responsible for securing everything, relying on local PD for very little aside from shutting down roads and diverting traffic. To the point where he was stationed to guard fire escapes of a building two blocks away while Obama was attending an event at a hotel because they wanted to ensure nobody could get roof access of nearby buildings, somehow traverse them to the top of the hotel, and possibly use explosives to bring down the top floors, or something to that effect.

Now it's probably different for a sitting US President vs a former one, but blaming something like this on local PD seems strange.

The area the shooter was in was under local LE responsibility. (There’s three tiers: close, medium, and long. Locals get the medium.) The USSS should have briefed them better and there still should have been uniforms on the roof, but coordinating something like this is a tough task, especially for local PD. Counter sniper team did their job well. They’re focused on long range threats, so when the shooting started you can see them depress their barrels towards the threat. In the span of a few seconds they went from looking a few hundred yards out to about 150 and hit a target the size of a cantaloupe. 
 

long story short the local LE messed up, but the USSS should have held their hands a little more. 

15 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

Hold it up to his face. Shouldn’t it open? 

What face?

3 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Well, the first good guy with a gun took a pass, so it wasn't until after the shooter killed people, that others took action.

you cant say it can you? 

3 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

Sure but my guess is a 20 year old didn’t think this through when he got his phone. Idk anyone that doesn’t use face or fingerprint. 

No doubt they have tried all options.  He may have been using an older device without the tech.  Plenty of Android devices didn't have it say five years back.

1 minute ago, Bill said:

What face?

pics were posted in here. I think his face is pretty intact. someone said he was hit in the back of the head and bullet exited through his mouth.

16 hours ago, lynched1 said:

Too hot to drink. I rock on every Fing day. 👌

This is slang for smoking crack, isn’t it?

17 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I think his face is pretty intact.

someone said he was hit in the back of the head and bullet exited through his mouth.

Those seem like mutually exclusive statements