49 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Facial recognition algorithms are sophisticated enough to incorporate "active biometrics" sensing, which is a way to detect when the person is awake (they do this with eye tracking and gaze detection, similar to what you see being implementing with self-driving systems on cars.) There is a setting on some phones to use a less secure and more convenient method of facial recognition where this isn't an issue, but I believe it's on by default on most phones. Finger print readers have similar mechanisms by detecting subdermal blood flow, again to ensure the finger print is from a live person and not a 3D printed forgery or a chopped off finger.

Still think a little tape on the eyelids could solve this. 
 

im always curious to if they just tell us they can’t open it so the public doesn’t freak out about big brother nonsense. 

1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said:

By someone who was properly trained to operate a weapon. 

I’m all for training being required to buy a gun. Dumb to me that you need a learners permit for a car but no training needed to buy a gun. 

Just now, 20dawk4life said:

Still think a little tape on the eyelids could solve this. 
 

im always curious to if they just tell us they can’t open it so the public doesn’t freak out about big brother nonsense. 

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

It's been both sides with that too.   Both sides.

How? I must have missed Biden's attempt to overthrow the govt

17 hours ago, RPeeteRules said:

In case any of you were wondering if Rhode Island was involved:

 

Well s***. Now I’m all out of theories. 

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

It's been both sides with that too.   Both sides.

Hillary gave a proper concession right after the election was called

4 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

Still think a little tape on the eyelids could solve this. 
 

 

It's not that simple, it tracks eye movements too. Would be tough to defeat if that setting I mentioned earlier was on.

 

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im always curious to if they just tell us they can’t open it so the public doesn’t freak out about big brother nonsense. 

I posted links to stories where it took the FBI months of no progress on phone's from other mass shooters. There was a major legal / ethical dispute that was surfaced after San Bernadino when Apple refused to compromise the security of their phones to comply with the FBI's request. They wouldn't need to do that if it were as easy to hack into as people think. AES encryption really changed our world forever.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

I posted links to stories where it took the FBI months of no progress on phone's from other mass shooters. There was a major legal / ethical dispute that was surfaced after San Bernadino when Apple refused to compromise the security of their phones to comply with the FBI's request. They wouldn't need to do that if it were as easy to hack into as people think. AES encryption really changed our world forever.

Or do they just want you to think that…

 

41 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

???   Has Trumped tried to take over the government the last 4 years or something?  Last I checked, he's running a campaign and going through the election process. 

He tried to illegally remain in power for months which culminated in the incitement of a deadly riot that threatened the life of his own VP. If you're honestly trying to paint that in anything other than a strictly authoritarian light, it's coming off as a bit disconnected from reality here.

9 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

How? I must have missed Biden's attempt to overthrow the govt

I bolded the lack of conceding a race.   Stacey Abrams in Georgia.  Nancy Pelosi still claims that Trump didn't win the 2016 election fairly.   And the Russian collusion stuff, the impeachment during Trump's term.  Let's just admit that both sides have been bad.   The left acts differently than the right when it comes to these things, but there have been plenty of events that one can point to on both sides where cooler heads didn't prevail.  

 

I am in no way a Trump apologist.  The events of January 6 were a disgrace.  The events around the country during the summer of 2020 were equally disgraceful.  Violence, looting, arson, murders all over the country.  And both sides acted improperly, and both sides have dehumanized the opposition, and have put forward the notion that the ends justify the means.  

 

I hate the political climate of this country, and both sides are responsible for it.  Neither has acted responsibly across the board.  Politics is more important than common sense.  And we are reaping what has been sowed over the last 8-20 years.

8 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Hillary gave a proper concession right after the election was called

Hillary - yes.   Others - no.

Yes everyone knows if you just occupy the capitol for an hour or so, that means you automatically control the govt.  It's like a video game, it actually works just like that.  Those J6-ers almost captured the flag, we would have had to follow their rules and new government.

These are the same people who openly say they'd vote for Bidens carcass.  We've essentially had no president for years, but yeah totally some people almost took over a govt building and thus, the entire country and democracy itself.

33 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

without even being forcibly removed.

There were 400 arrests, dude. Should've been far more but the police were woefully outnumbered that day. One died of a stroke the next day. At least two of them were so traumatized they committed suicide in the days the followed. Others were beaten and maimed, leaving them permanently disabled. Congress had to evacuate, Pence had to be rushed to an undisclosed location, and you're gonna act like they didn't need to be foribly removed? Come on, I know you're more rational than this. What are we doing here?

 

 

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Yes everyone knows if you just occupy the capitol for an hour or so, that means you automatically control the govt.  It's like a video game, it actually works just like that.  Those J6-ers almost captured the flag, we would have had to follow their rules and new government.

Nice way to downplay the insurrection lol

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

And you lose credibility when you pretend that his response to the past election was just business as usual and not representative of a massive threat to the democratic process.  As well as when you pretend that autocrats only arise through "actual takeovers" and that failed insurrections aren't that big of a deal.  Especially when you started this argument by mocking the Hitler comparisons who, spoiler, was democratically elected 10 years after the failed Beer Hall Putsch. You're actively hurting your own argument here.

I never said it was business as usual.  The way he acted was terrible.  He spread lies and propaganda about election cheating.  I don't know if he actually believed the lies and thought he was telling the truth or if he knew it was all BS and spread the lies anyway, nor can I figure out which is worse, but either way it was terrible. 

But there's a WIIIIIIIDE gray area between a guy acting being a POS and being a sore loser and a guy being an ACTUAL hostile takeover dictator. 

" was democratically elected 10 years after the failed Beer Hall Putsch."

Not really.  He lost the presidential election of 1932.  He made a deal with then President Hindenburg to be appointed chancellor.  He also had his own paramilitary group, which is kind of necessary when attempting to usurp the rule of law.  

 

Just now, Mike030270 said:

Nice way to downplay the insurrection lol

Even the term "insurrection" is overblown nonsense.  Calm down.  Our nation was quite literally never in any danger whatsoever, nor was Mike Pence.  

25 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Right, one of the morons effed around and found out real quick that law enforcement wasn't playing, and then everyone in that section of the crowd backed down because the reality is they weren't some big rebel force trying to take over the government, but rather a group of bored brainwashed losers who scrammed the second sh-t got real. 

What were they there for then? Why did they pick that particular day to storm the Capitol? Was it just a coincidence that it happened to be the same day where congress and the VP were supposed to certify the votes for the election they were told was stolen from them?

3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

nor was Mike Pence.  

That's nonsense. If Pence or Pelosi were encountered those people would have likely severely beaten/killed them.

3 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

But there's a WIIIIIIIDE gray area between a guy acting being a POS and being a sore loser and a guy being an ACTUAL hostile takeover dictator. 

Where do you put the fake electors being put in place and Trump's demand of Pence to not accept the formal electors sent by the States?  Jan 6 was a failed takeover.

And following the logic of those claiming Trump brought the shooting on himself, this assassination will be completely justified.  Demons walk among us.

1 minute ago, Paul852 said:

That's nonsense. If Pence or Pelosi were encountered those people would have likely severely beaten/killed them.

Yeah sure, if, you have such an incredible imagination!

2 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

I never said it was business as usual.  The way he acted was terrible.  He spread lies and propaganda about election cheating.  I don't know if he actually believed the lies and thought he was telling the truth or if he knew it was all BS and spread the lies anyway, nor can I figure out which is worse, but either way it was terrible. 

But there's a WIIIIIIIDE gray area between a guy acting being a POS and being a sore loser and a guy being an ACTUAL hostile takeover dictator. 

" was democratically elected 10 years after the failed Beer Hall Putsch."

Not really.  He lost the presidential election of 1932.  He made a deal with then President Hindenburg to be appointed chancellor.  He also had his own paramilitary group, which is kind of necessary when attempting to usurp the rule of law.  

 

Ah so he lost an election, failed an insurrection, managed to position himself through legal political means to take power, and had an avid group of supporters willing to commit violence against their political opponents to maintain power?  Ya know what you're right. Zero similarities.  Trump is just a "sore loser" who did nothing wrong and autocracy only rises through successful coups.

Ffs man again I agree with your premise. But your argument is not rooted in reality. It's like me saying "Biden isn't like Hitler at all! Biden loves dogs!"