4 minutes ago, Procus said:

And you're a halal meat gorging radical extremist who will be satisfied with nothing less than the complete overthrow of our way of life.  So what's your point?

Your way of life is moping around the nursing home hopped up on horse meds.

11 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

I’m not downplaying it but I’m not also gonna act like this was the Cuban Revolution.   This group of idiots was not a paramilitary group. they weren’t prepared to do what’s necessary for an actual rebellion.  Had the Capitol been properly protected from the start they would have never even gotten close to the steps cause I guarantee had sh-t gotten real they would have all ran for the hills. 

That's a great point. Why was that do you think?

15 minutes ago, paco said:

Maybe I’m misremembering but didn’t we find out the woman in that picture was his mom?

Yea I think it was

7 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

That's a great point. Why was that do you think?

The Capitol police leadership clearly was not prepared.  Are you implying that Trump had something to do with that? Is there evidence of that? 

No Pentagon officials deliberately held off on sending the National Guard to the U.S. Capitol during the attacks of Jan. 6, 2021, the House committee investigating the insurrection said in its final report. Rather, it said conflicting messages caused a delay.

The committee lays blame on then-President Trump for the holdup as rioters attacked the building’s police officers, smashed windows and searched for lawmakers for more than three hours until guard members showed up to help quell the chaos. 

"President Trump had authority and responsibility to direct deployment of the National Guard in the District of Columbia, but never gave any order to deploy the National Guard on January 6th or on any other day,” the committee wrote in the 845-page report it released Thursday evening. "Nor did he instruct any Federal law enforcement agency to assist.” 

 

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3787032-dc-national-guard-deployment-wasnt-purposefully-delayed-on-jan-6-final-report-finds/

Contrasted with...

President Donald Trump recently took the drastic step of sending thousands of National Guard troops to Washington, D.C. They were not sent to repel a foreign attack on the nation's capital but to mobilize against American citizens peacefully protesting the senseless killing of George Floyd. The Trump administration then deployed scores of unidentified federal law enforcement officers, many of them from the Department of Homeland Security, to Portland, Oregon, resulting in increased mayhem and injuries to nonviolent protesters.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-barr-used-loophole-deploy-national-guard-u-s-cities-ncna1236034

 

Edit: And before someone brings it up, no I don't agree with the framing of "mostly peaceful protests" here. Yes, I think the protests were often violent and destructive. No they're still not the same as Jan6th. The point is, he deployed the NG when he wanted to and withheld them when he didn't.

He knows.  He just doesn’t think you’ll put in the effort to keep refuting his posts.  And at some point you’re the sucker @we_gotta_believe

32 minutes ago, Bill said:

JFC. Not only was the local SWAT team in the building, they were supposed to be on the roof. 

It's like with the Uvalde school shooting where the more news comes out the worst it looks

Just keeps getting worse 

https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/alleged-trump-shooter-spotted-by-law-enforcement-nearly-30-minutes-before-shots-fired-sources-say/Q6GIK5RP6RBY5PHIMYBNXRTEBI/

Alleged Trump shooter spotted by law enforcement nearly 30 minutes before shots fired, sources say

 

5 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

He knows.  He just doesn’t think you’ll put in the effort to keep refuting his posts.  And at some point you’re the sucker @we_gotta_believe

You're right, I'm done with this. I don't know what happened to him, but it's really unfortunate. 

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

 

It's not Trump's fault, he had a busy day of golfing yesterday. When's he supposed to find time to call the family? Those tee times are serious business.

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

It's like with the Uvalde school shooting where the more news comes out the worst it looks

 

6 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

Just keeps getting worse 

https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/alleged-trump-shooter-spotted-by-law-enforcement-nearly-30-minutes-before-shots-fired-sources-say/Q6GIK5RP6RBY5PHIMYBNXRTEBI/

Alleged Trump shooter spotted by law enforcement nearly 30 minutes before shots fired, sources say

Honestly the older I get the more I think local PDs should just be abolished and it’s just the state police. 

Just now, Bill said:

 

Honestly the older I get the more I think local PDs should just be abolished and it’s just the state police. 

You may be right, I’ll defer to you on that, and this PD has a lot to answer for, but the responsibility for the projection ultimately falls to the SS and there seems to be a coordinated rush by the government and media to pin it all on the police to distract from that.

26 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Contrasted with...

President Donald Trump recently took the drastic step of sending thousands of National Guard troops to Washington, D.C. They were not sent to repel a foreign attack on the nation's capital but to mobilize against American citizens peacefully protesting the senseless killing of George Floyd. The Trump administration then deployed scores of unidentified federal law enforcement officers, many of them from the Department of Homeland Security, to Portland, Oregon, resulting in increased mayhem and injuries to nonviolent protesters.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-barr-used-loophole-deploy-national-guard-u-s-cities-ncna1236034

 

Edit: And before someone brings it up, no I don't agree with the framing of "mostly peaceful protests" here. Yes, I think the protests were often violent and destructive. No they're still not the same as Jan6th. The point is, he deployed the NG when he wanted to and withheld them when he didn't.

No argument there.  The police presence in advance of the riot also was not robust enough.  And hell a few rubber bullets fired into that crowd of p-ssies early on would have stopped the whole thing. 

23 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

You're right, I'm done with this. I don't know what happened to him, but it's really unfortunate. 

Lol sorry that I don’t think that group of pansies was on par with groups that actually engaged in hostile takeovers of governments.   

 

17 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

You may be right, I’ll defer to you on that, and this PD has a lot to answer for, but the responsibility for the projection ultimately falls to the SS and there seems to be a coordinated rush by the government and media to pin it all on the police to distract from that.

Well when you’re working with another agency and they say "hey, not only is our swat team going to be in this building, they’ll be on the roof”, that’s not usually something you’ll have to hold another agencies hand on because it pretty much just involves standing where you said you would. 

23 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

No argument there.  The police presence in advance of the riot also was not robust enough.  And hell a few rubber bullets fired into that crowd of p-ssies early on would have stopped the whole thing. 

So you agree. He purposely delayed deploying the national guard to quell the violent riots that he directly incited. Meaning not only did he incite those people to attempt to disrupt the democratic process removing him from power, but he abetted their ability to do so resulting in multiple deaths and hundreds of arrests. 

Great. Glad we could get there. 

4 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

He purposely delayed deploying the national guard to quell the meandering cosplayers who left on their own when they ran out of hot pockets and mountain dews

fyp

16 minutes ago, Bill said:

Well when you’re working with another agency and they say "hey, not only is our swat team going to be in this building, they’ll be on the roof”, that’s not usually something you’ll have to hold another agencies hand on because it pretty much just involves standing where you said you would. 

But they didn’t stand where they said they would.  The SS had the responsibility to make sure someone did. I’m not absolving the police of their culpability, but I’m also not going to pretend that the SS wasn’t in charge of the worst security failure in decades.

Just now, The_Omega said:

But they didn’t stand where they said they would.  The SS had the responsibility to make sure someone did. I’m not absolving the police of their culpability, but I’m also not going to pretend that the SS wasn’t in charge of the worst security failure in decades.

You know who also held SS agents accountable?

7 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

I dont understand why you think it matters which "side" he was on. 

Theyve gained access to his phone.