July 16, 20241 yr "FBI technical specialists successfully gained access to Thomas Matthew Crooks’ phone, and they continue to analyze his electronic devices," the FBI said in a statement. "The search of the subject's residence and vehicle are complete." The bureau added that it has conducted nearly 100 interviews with law enforcement personnel, event attendees and other witnesses. In a call with reporters on Sunday, FBI officials said they had still not yet been able to attribute an ideology or find evidence of a motive for the shooting. They added that a preliminary review of recent calls and texts by the shooter did not shed any light on his motive, or on whether others may have had prior knowledge of his plans.
July 16, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, Bill said: Well when you’re working with another agency and they say "hey, not only is our swat team going to be in this building, they’ll be on the roof”, that’s not usually something you’ll have to hold another agencies hand on because it pretty much just involves standing where you said you would. Bill that's true. The US Secret Service had the call on the distance of the outer perimeter though, and they set that perimeter at less than the 130 yards in a fairly open venue, and which was the approximate distance from the shooter to Trump. Also, the lead agency has a responsibility to do regular radio checks with visual confirmation that each manned position is in fact manned and that there's no problems. Overall, I agree that the SWAT team failed in epic fashion, but the operational planning and in particular the operational oversight was a failure too. There are many lessons for everyone involved to learn. It's a terrible shame that it cost human life for them to confront that reality.
July 16, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: I dont understand why you think it matters which "side" he was on. For the same reason why you were creaming your shorts over the fist pump, because of the optics. It's much more difficult for his new VP to blame this on the Biden campaign if this kid was a disgruntled Republican. To be clear, I think both are dumb.
July 16, 20241 yr 21 hours ago, Procus said: This from the "adult" who talks down to people because they were suspended from the boards. What a hypocrite - and in higher education no less. No surprise there. The Paul Pelosi incident, sure appeared to be an encounter with a disgruntled male prostitute. Quite a different set of circumstances, but still, I wouldn't wish any harm on the guy or his wife. As for Trump - doesn't matter if you hate him or love him. Forget that he's Trump for a second. They guy's a former president and the presumptive presidential nominee of the Republican party. It bodes badly for the country when shots are fired at a political candidate. There is so much bat ish craziness here to unpack. I’m just going to savor this one
July 16, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: "FBI technical specialists successfully gained access to Thomas Matthew Crooks’ phone, and they continue to analyze his electronic devices," the FBI said in a statement. "The search of the subject's residence and vehicle are complete." The bureau added that it has conducted nearly 100 interviews with law enforcement personnel, event attendees and other witnesses. In a call with reporters on Sunday, FBI officials said they had still not yet been able to attribute an ideology or find evidence of a motive for the shooting. They added that a preliminary review of recent calls and texts by the shooter did not shed any light on his motive, or on whether others may have had prior knowledge of his plans. No footprint what so ever. Very convenient
July 16, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: For the same reason why you were creaming your shorts over the fist pump, because of the optics. It's much more difficult for his new VP to blame this on the Biden campaign if this kid was a disgruntled Republican. To be clear, I think both are dumb. fist pump was awesome and it wouldnt matter which "side" the target was on. Anyone who gets shot at, and gets up and does that has big brass ones and it was awesome. Its not nearly the same. I guess it makes you guys feel good. Thats about it. It doesnt actually mean anything.
July 16, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, Gannan said: No footprint what so ever. Very convenient yeah really... not hard for Hillary to plant some trump signs on his front lawn and make him register republican before she sends him off on his mission. Its a pretty easy front to put up and it doesnt appear to go very deep. No evidence of ideology.... youd think a big time maga guy with trump signs plastered all over his lawn would have stuff coming out in their investigation but not so far... Trump dominated the debate. He was going to run away with the election. And Hillary and Jill wanted him out of the way. It was the only way to get votes back for "Biden" so Obama could serve his 4th term.
July 16, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: fist pump was awesome and it wouldnt matter which "side" the target was on. Anyone who gets shot at, and gets up and does that has big brass ones and it was awesome. Its not nearly the same. I guess it makes you guys feel good. Thats about it. It doesnt actually mean anything.
July 16, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: yeah really... not hard for Hillary to plant some trump signs on his front lawn and make him register republican before she sends him off on his mission. Its a pretty easy front to put up and it doesnt appear to go very deep. No evidence of ideology.... youd think a big time maga guy with trump signs plastered all over his lawn would have stuff coming out in their investigation but not so far... Trump dominated the debate. He was going to run away with the election. And Hillary and Jill wanted him out of the way. It was the only way to get votes back for "Biden" so Obama could serve his 4th term. He was down 2 points in the polls right before the shooting. That’s just a fact.
July 16, 20241 yr https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-yes-trump-rally-222700642.html Fact Check: Yes, Trump Rally Shooter Once Donated Money to a Democratic Cause Alex Kasprak Mon, July 15, 2024 at 3:27 p.m. PDT·3 min read Getty Images Claim: Thomas Crooks, the 20-year-old man who attempted to assassinate former U.S. President Donald Trump, once donated money to a political action committee aligned with the Democratic Party. Rating: Rating: True Following the attempted assassination of former U.S. President Donald Trump on July 13, 2024, reporters and online sleuths scoured public records to see whether they could infer the shooter's motive. With that digging, two seemingly conflicting rumors emerged about the 20-year-old shooter, Thomas Matthew Crooks. First, he was supposedly registered to vote as a Republican. (Snopes confirmed the legitimacy of that claim in a separate fact check.) Second, he had allegedly donated money to a Democratic-leaning political action committee on the day President Joe Biden took his oath of office, Jan. 20, 2021. That latter assertion also was true. Crooks, who was shot dead by law enforcement after opening fire at the Trump rally, indeed donated $15 to the Progressive Turnout Project, a PAC that aims to get Democrats to vote, according to Federal Election Commission. The record shows the donation occurred on Jan. 20, 2021. That said, some social media users claimed a 69-year-old Pittsburgh man with the same name as Trump's would-be assassin — Thomas Crooks — had actually made that donation. Several X users made that argument with copy-and-pasted text began, "Another MAGA talking point down the drain." The argument rested, largely, on two facts: that an older, unrelated Thomas Crooks with a connection to the city of Pittsburgh existed, and that the in-question FEC records listed Pittsburgh as the donor's city. Based on a search of public records, it is true that several individuals, including a 69-year-old man, named "Thomas Crooks" have or have had a connection to Pittsburgh. However, there was no evidence connecting these individuals to the in-question $15 donation to the Democratic-leaning PAC; the FEC filing lists a street address and ZIP code that don't exist in Pittsburgh. However, when looking at the FEC filing for the donation, nearly every field was an exact match to the other Thomas Crooks — Trump's would-be assassin. In particular, that Thomas Crooks lived in Bethel Park, a Pittsburgh suburb. Authorities confirmed that the shooter was from Bethel Park, and voter registration records, among other things, provide his specific address. The donation to the Progressive Turnout Project was made through ActBlue, which is another Democratic PAC that serves as a fundraising platform. Many political groups and campaigns use ActBlue for fundraising. As a result, FEC records show such donations as contributions to ActBlue, with notes indicating the specific target of the money. In this case, the note said, " earmarked for Progressive Turnout Project." The full address associated with the donation appears within a February 2021 FEC document (page 189,746) listing all of Act Blue's donations during the previous month. That street address and ZIP code match the home of the shooter, according to a public records search and photos of police searching the home. Considering that address match, and the fact that the location on the in-question FEC filing does not exist in Pittsburgh, evidence favors the conclusion that the shooter made the donation — not someone else with the same name. Sources: FBI Statement on Incident in Butler, Pennsylvania. 14 July 2024, https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-statement-on-incident-in-butler-pennsylvania.
July 16, 20241 yr Author 12 minutes ago, Gannan said: There is so much bat ish craziness here to unpack. I’m just going to savor this one How do you talk down to people who were suspended from the boards? I’m intrigued
July 16, 20241 yr I've been thinking this thread didn't have enough HE. The insight has been incredible. That free degree is well worth its value.
July 16, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: How do you talk down to people who were suspended from the boards? I’m intrigued I’ve been posting on the EMB since 2004. I’ve never gotten a warning or suspension. I told him it isn’t too difficult for a grown adult to conduct one’s self accordingly so as to not get suspended here. Apparently it struck a nerve
July 16, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: I believe you are probably correct. I think it was a classic"suicide by cop” scenario. I mean, he was an inch or two away from putting a bullet in Trump’s skull. Clearly he was trying to kill Trump and not just looking to force cops to kill him.
July 16, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, Paul852 said: I've been thinking this thread didn't have enough HE. The insight has been incredible. That free degree is well worth its value. Your tax dollars at work
July 16, 20241 yr Just now, Gannan said: I’ve been posting on the EMB since 2004. I’ve never gotten a warning or suspension. I told him it isn’t too difficult for a grown adult to conduct one’s self accordingly so as to not get suspended here. Apparently it struck a nerve Virtually everybody here has had posts that the mods have let slide --- stuff that technically breaks the forum rules, but likely didn't get reported.
July 16, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: fist pump was awesome and it wouldnt matter which "side" the target was on. Anyone who gets shot at, and gets up and does that has big brass ones and it was awesome. Its not nearly the same. I guess it makes you guys feel good. Thats about it. It doesnt actually mean anything.
July 16, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, Gannan said: I’ve been posting on the EMB since 2004. I’ve never gotten a warning or suspension. I told him it isn’t too difficult for a grown adult to conduct one’s self accordingly so as to not get suspended here. Apparently it struck a nerve
July 16, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: How do you talk down to people who were suspended from the boards? I’m intrigued I tell you to tell Munson that I concede that the price of chicken is now a quadrillion dollars.
July 16, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, binkybink77 said: He’s 20 but he’s had MAGA signs in his yard for years? His yard or his parents? He had MAGA signs?
July 16, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, Paul852 said: He had MAGA signs? I don't know.. according to the Boomer style FB propaganda dorkstar posted.
July 16, 20241 yr Honestly I kinda hate that the broke into his phone. Him being a lone gunman with no motivation outside of "I want to make a name for myself to show up the bullies" was the absolute best case scenario when it comes to calming tensions for both sides. I get it, you want to make sure no one else was involved. I'm just worried a "manifesto" escalates things if they find one.
July 16, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, TEW said: I mean, he was an inch or two away from putting a bullet in Trump’s skull. Clearly he was trying to kill Trump and not just looking to force cops to kill him. But he missed, repeatedly
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