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Just now, DEagle7 said:

Honestly I kinda hate that the broke into his phone. Him being a lone gunman with no motivation outside of "I want to make a name for myself to show up the bullies" was the absolute best case scenario when it comes to calming tensions for both sides. I get it, you want to make sure no one else was involved.  I'm just worried a "manifesto" escalates things if they find one. 

The people.. and especially the families of those injured or killed deserve the truth regardless of what it may be.

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10 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

 

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Every. Single. Time.

14 minutes ago, binkybink77 said:

He’s 20 but he’s had MAGA signs in his yard for years? His yard or his parents?

That actually might make more sense if he had issues with his dad who was a trump supporter and this was his way of getting back at him. There was also another report where a classmate said they saw him with a Trump shirt in middle school or something, which could also indicate a strong political influence from parents.

3 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Honestly I kinda hate that the broke into his phone. Him being a lone gunman with no motivation outside of "I want to make a name for myself to show up the bullies" was the absolute best case scenario when it comes to calming tensions for both sides. I get it, you want to make sure no one else was involved.  I'm just worried a "manifesto" escalates things if they find one. 

They won’t. Patsy’s typically don’t have manifestos 

6 minutes ago, binkybink77 said:

The people.. and especially the families of those injured or killed deserve the truth regardless of what it may be.

True. And the FBI etc need to know if anyone else was involved. It's unavoidable. I just worry it just could potentially F things up more. 

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23 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

Virtually everybody here has had posts that the mods have let slide --- stuff that technically breaks the forum rules, but likely didn't get reported.

What if you know who the mods are and antagonize them?  :whistle:

10 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Honestly I kinda hate that the broke into his phone. Him being a lone gunman with no motivation outside of "I want to make a name for myself to show up the bullies" was the absolute best case scenario when it comes to calming tensions for both sides. I get it, you want to make sure no one else was involved.  I'm just worried a "manifesto" escalates things if they find one. 

I already told you guys. You never listen.

They're gonna find 8,000 pictures of Jodie Foster on that kid's phone.

And not from her brief period of hotness in 1980...

I'm talking still frames from Nell.

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

True. And the FBI etc need to know if anyone else was involved. It's unavoidable. I just worry it just could potentially F things up more. 

Yeah.. it's a tense political climate and it's super concerning to see this type of violence carried out. Our technological growth has far outpaced our ability to mature with it. The internet and our constant need to be connected to it has caused as many problems as it's solved. It's just a shitshow of people screaming their idealogies at each other - some of which don't even need to be political. It certainly doesn't need to be further stoked at this point.

1 minute ago, Arthur Jackson said:

I already told you guys. You never listen.

They're gonna find 8,000 pictures of Jodie Foster on that kid's phone.

And not from her brief period of hotness in 1980...

I'm talking still frames from Nell.

Tay in the wind chickabay

1 hour ago, The_Omega said:

But they didn’t stand where they said they would.  The SS had the responsibility to make sure someone did. I’m not absolving the police of their culpability, but I’m also not going to pretend that the SS wasn’t in charge of the worst security failure in decades.

The USSS shouldn’t have to do that much hand holding. It’s pretty heavily tilted towards the locals being to blame. 

6 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

What if you know who the mods are and antagonize them?  :whistle:

You will earn fewer mod points than other posters.

8 minutes ago, Gannan said:

People can laugh all they want. Tons of evidence to suggest there was a second shooter, likely on the water tower. We haven’t even scratched the surface of this thing yet. 
 

https://x.com/pepesgrandma/status/1812947983727722754?s=46&t=mB7AKk7VZqaCJ-WH2wKr0w

ill call it now. that one was a democrat. 

3 minutes ago, binkybink77 said:

Tay in the wind chickabay

oh god don't start

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10 minutes ago, Gannan said:

People can laugh all they want. Tons of evidence to suggest there was a second shooter, likely on the water tower. We haven’t even scratched the surface of this thing yet. 
 

https://x.com/pepesgrandma/status/1812947983727722754?s=46&t=mB7AKk7VZqaCJ-WH2wKr0w

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1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

ill call it now. that one was a democrat. 

She probably donated to a far right PAC and had Hillary 2016 bumper stickers all over her EV.

12 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

What if you know who the mods are and antagonize them?  :whistle:

mods are all talk :nonono:

1 hour ago, PoconoDon said:

Bill that's true. The US Secret Service had the call on the distance of the outer perimeter though, and they set that perimeter at less than the 130 yards in a fairly open venue, and which was the approximate distance from the shooter to Trump. Also, the lead agency has a responsibility to do regular radio checks with visual confirmation that each manned position is in fact manned and that there's no problems. Overall, I agree that the SWAT team failed in epic fashion, but the operational planning and in particular the operational oversight was a failure too. There are many lessons for everyone involved to learn. It's a terrible shame that it cost human life for them to confront that reality.

Yeah, they do, and I’m sure you’ve got a lot more operational experience being part of the big cheese on scene, but as someone who was never in a leading agency, if someone told MyRadar to stand a post, my a** would stand the post. Any sup I had was so paranoid about being embarrassed in front of the cool kids, so if you weren’t doing what you were supposed to be doing you’d be wearing the corporals asp as a new a** ornament. 
 

And I’ve had some pretty ish posts. 

Just now, brkmsn said:

She probably donated to a far right PAC and had Hillary 2016 bumper stickers all over her EV.

sounds right.

17 minutes ago, Gannan said:

People can laugh all they want. Tons of evidence to suggest there was a second shooter, likely on the water tower. We haven’t even scratched the surface of this thing yet. 
 

https://x.com/pepesgrandma/status/1812947983727722754?s=46&t=mB7AKk7VZqaCJ-WH2wKr0w

When are we through the looking glass?

6 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

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Couldn't have found one from when he was with the Phils?

 

5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

When are we through the looking glass?

More is going to come out. The lone crazy who just happened to miss and give Trump his perfect photo op narrative is not going to hold water. 

27 minutes ago, Bill said:

The USSS shouldn’t have to do that much hand holding. It’s pretty heavily tilted towards the locals being to blame. 

Yeah, the more I read, these guys aren’t qualified to be called the Keystone Cops 

20 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Couldn't have found one from when he was with the Phils?

 

:nonono:

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30 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

mods are all talk :nonono:

They treat you with kid gloves

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