19 hours ago19 hr 47 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:The 12th says "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."The supposed loophole is pinpointing serving and electing but to go from president ->vp->president then you'd need to be elected and the 12th would stop itIf you somehow go from the next in line which would be speaker of the house and then become president though that would be the loopholeThe 22nd says they become ineligible after being elected for 2 terms. The 12th says you can't be vp if you're ineligible for president. Their ineligibility for election makes them "constitutionally ineligible to the office of president" in the broader sense. If they are "constitutionally ineligible to the office of president" the 12th explicitly states they cannot be eligible for VPAs Vikas pointed out, the 22nd doesn't say that a person is ineligible to be president and being elected 2 terms. It says you're ineligible to be elected to the office of the president.
19 hours ago19 hr 1 minute ago, Phillyterp85 said:As Vikas pointed out, the 22nd doesn't say that a person is ineligible to be president and being elected 2 terms. It says you're ineligible to be elected to the office of the president.Yes but the 12th blocks it before it even happens. They'd need to go from one of the lines of succession besides the vp to circumvent the 12th. Like the next in line (speaker)
17 hours ago17 hr Cognitive tests are not hard. They're not intelligence tests. They're designed to figure out what part of your brain is failing.
17 hours ago17 hr 1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:Yes but the 12th blocks it before it even happens. They'd need to go from one of the lines of succession besides the vp to circumvent the 12th. Like the next in line (speaker)I don’t think it does. The 12th amendment discusses the eligibility required to serve as president, nothing to do with being elected. Back when the 12th amendment was written, there were no limits on how many times a person could be elected president.
17 hours ago17 hr 4 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:Cognitive tests are not hard. They're not intelligence tests. They're designed to figure out what part of your brain is failing.That’s the best part.
17 hours ago17 hr 7 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:I don’t think it does. The 12th amendment discusses the eligibility required to serve as president, nothing to do with being elected. Back when the 12th amendment was written, there were no limits on how many times a person could be elected president.The supposed loophole is about it saying elected and not serve but you need to be elected to serve unless you're the vp or through one of the other means of succession. The 12th says you're ineligible to be that vp if you're ineligible to be president (you've been elected to 2 terms). So the only loophole is through one of the other lines of succession if they've never been elected president for 2 terms
16 hours ago16 hr 56 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:The supposed loophole is about it saying elected and not serve but you need to be elected to serve unless you're the vp or through one of the other means of succession. The 12th says you're ineligible to be that vp if you're ineligible to be president (you've been elected to 2 terms). So the only loophole is through one of the other lines of succession if they've never been elected president for 2 termsCorrect! this isn’t hard. Everyone learned this in 3rd grade social studies. 2 terms means 2 terms. You can’t serve a 3rd via VP because serving 2 Terms Makes you ineligible.
15 hours ago15 hr 3 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:As Vikas pointed out, the 22nd doesn't say that a person is ineligible to be president and being elected 2 terms. It says you're ineligible to be elected to the office of the president.VPs are also elected
15 hours ago15 hr Greatest economy ever 🙄 https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/amazon-targets-many-30000-corporate-job-cuts-sources-say-2025-10-27/
4 hours ago4 hr 11 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:VPs are also electedRight but the language of the amendment says "elected president”. The 22nd amendment doesn’t prevent a two time elected president from being elected vice president.
2 hours ago2 hr 12 hours ago, DBW said:Greatest economy ever 🙄https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/amazon-targets-many-30000-corporate-job-cuts-sources-say-2025-10-27/If the big tech companies are cutting jobs we in for a world of hurt. This trickle down ain't trickling.
2 hours ago2 hr 14 hours ago, Mike030270 said:The supposed loophole is about it saying elected and not serve but you need to be elected to serve unless you're the vp or through one of the other means of succession. The 12th says you're ineligible to be that vp if you're ineligible to be president (you've been elected to 2 terms). So the only loophole is through one of the other lines of succession if they've never been elected president for 2 termsTrump's ego can't handle any of this 2nd fiddle, back door business. He's going to do it right through the front door, either by daring the SC to stop him or just suspending elections.We do know for sure he is not stepping down voluntarily in '28, the question is how. My guess, 3+yrs out is:Allow the performative election process to happen, looming large and overshadowing the whole spectacle.Whoever wins (and if his tanked economy loses even better), flood the zone with a mix of 'elections were rigged', 'country is at war', emergency powers', and straight up 'i don't care'.Attempt again what he tried the first time and have Vance indefinitely delay the certification (another defeat he needs to avenge)Something like that. No back doors and he won't "run" per se.
2 hours ago2 hr 17 hours ago, Mike030270 said:Crazy how the corruption and cruelty can make you forget he is also extremely stupid.
1 hour ago1 hr 3+ years out, I think Trump will be physically unfit to serve due to his old age and condition. Or he is already dead.
1 hour ago1 hr 19 minutes ago, toolg said:3+ years out, I think Trump will be physically unfit to serve due to his old age and condition. Or he is already dead.
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