November 12, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, Mike31mt said: Dave Moss just threw all of his syllabuses in the trash syllabi, you silly bi
November 12, 20241 yr 20 minutes ago, lynched1 said: It's a good idea. Especially considering most of Trump's opponents want to do away with standardized testing anyway. You do realize the DoE isn't even 50 years old right? It’s not a good plan. By taking away federal money that provides grants and assistance to lower income and struggling states/districts you are keeping the poor poor and the rich and rich. Once again he proves everyone right that has said he is only in it to help himself and the rich. Standardized tests suck, any teacher would say get rid of it, but a lot of the money they get for programs and materials has much to do with how they perform on those tests. He has never done anything and never will do anything to help the middle class. By removing the doe, he will kill public schools - defunded programs (like free and reduced lunch for example), teachers will quit because of salaries and benefits reductions, etc. and only those that can afford private education will be able to get a quality education. One of many ways he’s going to destroy the country. Buckle up because unless you’re filthy rich h which I doubt, you will be impacted in ways that you never saw coming through the orange colored glasses.
November 12, 20241 yr 8 hours ago, Kz! said: Hell yes. Trump's dismantling lib propaganda centers one at a time, and I'm here for it. His second term is going to be amazing. Overhauling the accrediting bodies who report to the DOE while at the same time dismantling the DOE will be a neat trick.
November 12, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, Mike31mt said: Dave Moss just threw all of his syllabuses in the trash If he actually does any of that. I think the odds are better than 50/50 he won't. It would be a ton of hard work, which wasn't exactly a hallmark of the first administration. I have a feeling about 18 months from now we will be hearing "Who knew our system of higher ed was so complicated"?
November 12, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, Gannan said: "Who knew our system of higher ed was so complicated"? That is the hallmark of the federal government. The states already have their own departments in place. I'd bet they'd be far more efficient and in tune.
November 12, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, lynched1 said: That is the hallmark of the federal government. The states already have their own departments in place. And what you will get is a decline in quality in poor areas while rich areas do fine. the bigger problem will be the inconsistency. A diploma will no longer mean the same state to state
November 12, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: And what you will get is a decline in quality in poor areas while rich areas do fine. the bigger problem will be the inconsistency. A diploma will no longer mean the same state to state You've seen how we compare globally? We're passing illiterate people to move them through the system as it is and we spend a fortune to do it. The DoE has a qualified record to defend?
November 12, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, lynched1 said: You've seen how we compare globally? Yup. How much international experience have you had again? the answer isnt to double down on the negative aspects cuz garbage gonna garbage
November 12, 20241 yr On 11/11/2024 at 5:46 PM, Arthur Jackson said: Throwing my hat in the ring for ambassador to Thailand. No reason. Lady Boys?
November 12, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: the answer isnt to double down on the negative aspects cuz garbage gonna garbage Yet that is exactly what you're advocating for.
November 12, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, lynched1 said: That is the hallmark of the federal government. The states already have their own departments in place. I'd bet they'd be far more efficient and in tune. You have obviously no experience working in public schools. States rely heavily on federally funded programs. Keeping poor states poor isn’t the way to help the country be great.
November 12, 20241 yr 48 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said: syllabi, you silly bi Not in America, we've upgraded the language.
November 12, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, lynched1 said: You've seen how we compare globally? We're passing illiterate people to move them through the system as it is and we spend a fortune to do it. The DoE has a qualified record to defend? Certainly cutting funding that states rely on will help those illiterates become honor students. 🤦♂️
November 12, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, DBW said: You have obviously no experience working in public schools. States rely heavily on federally funded programs. Keeping poor states poor isn’t the way to help the country be great. States have allowed themselves to become reliant on federal funding (borrowed money). It's easier to have the federal government raise taxes when it's time to face constituents. I bet Josh Shapiro would love to have a hand in reforming PA's education system.
November 12, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, DBW said: Certainly cutting funding that states rely on will help those illiterates become honor students. 🤦♂️ The illiteracy would certainly be cheaper than what we current pay for it. I don't believe there is any law stating that the states cannot raise funds for education.
November 13, 20241 yr 26 minutes ago, lynched1 said: The illiteracy would certainly be cheaper than what we current pay for it. I don't believe there is any law stating that the states cannot raise funds for education. So, you admit that because its cheaper and better for the overall economy and future of the country, we should make sure to keep them illiterate? There’s no law that states can’t raise educational dollars but take a look around man. Not every state is rich nor will they ever be. There’s a reason federal programs exist. Is the DoE bloated? Sure, but cutting off funding isn’t the answer. Take a walk through Philadelphia’s schools and ask yourself if you want your kids going there, and ask yourself if you think the state can afford to fix those issues and if they could manage to do it, how would that impact you? Think taxes are high now? Wait for the states to raise them to fix the illiteracy issues. You see how this works? I bet you think it won’t affect you, but I can tell you haven’t thought it all the way through.
November 13, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, DBW said: I don't admit anything. I countered your defense of the indefensible. Matching your irrationality. How do you suppose we managed before August 1977? Television, computers, aircraft, landing on the moon. We created a global super power. All before then.
November 13, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, lynched1 said: I don't admit anything. I countered your defense of the indefensible. Matching your irrationality. How do you suppose we managed before August 1977? Ever since then we have gotten worse globally
November 13, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, It Hurts said: Ever since then we have gotten worse globally Sadly true
November 13, 20241 yr 39 minutes ago, lynched1 said: The illiteracy would certainly be cheaper than what we current pay for it.
November 13, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, lynched1 said: I don't admit anything. I countered your defense of the indefensible. Matching your irrationality. How do you suppose we managed before August 1977? Television, computers, aircraft, landing on the moon. We created a global super power. All before then. And all of those things created a need for higher education and institutions to continue the path. And all of those things were shared by all, not by some. What if a state says, "look what we created but you can’t have any of it because we control everything to do with our education and what it produces.” We are moving backwards towards a society of peasants and kings. It’s not good.
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