July 30Jul 30 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:that 5% does make a difference both with weight gain and with the liverCool, then I'm sure you can easily provide a peer-reviewed study that proves this. You'll have to forgive me if I'm not as willing to take a "trust me bro" as evidence.
July 30Jul 30 Just now, we_gotta_believe said:Cool, then I'm sure you can easily provide a peer-reviewed study that proves this. You'll have to forgive me if I'm not as willing to take a "trust me bro" as evidence.PubMedEffects of high-fructose corn syrup and sucrose on the ph...It is unclear whether high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS), which contains a higher amount of fructose and provides an immediate source of free fructose, induces greater systemic concentrations of fruct..."HFCS leads to greater fructose systemic exposure and significantly different acute metabolic effects."Quicker absorption isn't good for the liver, which again isn't a big deal for most, but it's not great for people who consume multiple sodas or products daily.PubMedConsumption of fructose and high fructose corn syrup incr...Consumption of HFCS-sweetened beverages for 2 wk at 25% E increased risk factors for cardiovascular disease comparably with fructose and more than glucose in young adults."Consumption of HFCS-sweetened beverages for 2 wk at 25% E increased risk factors for cardiovascular disease comparably with fructose and more than glucose in young adults."Again, glad you can find a way to freak out and have mental instability over I'm glad it will taste like it used to like it does in the other countries.
July 30Jul 30 1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:My favorite post on here was the my 401k is down 6%!!!!Some people are definitely feeling all of trumps changes while others feel nothing
July 30Jul 30 Just now, Mike030270 said:Some people are definitely feeling all of trumps changes while others feel nothing@pisceschica has posted several examples of trumpers who are feeling the hits.
July 30Jul 30 4 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:again, who cares about the possible health implications.The people freaking out evidently do. I might have one now more than once every five years.
July 30Jul 30 Just now, Diehardfan said:The people freaking out evidently do. I might have one now more than once every five years.i think the issue they are taking is the fact that some (the trump administration) are making this out to be some glorious deal and are promoting it as being very beneficial to americans health wise. which it isn't. how much money, time and effort was put into this? why is suddenly ok with so many in the gop for the government to be pushing regulations on capitalism? why does this matter now considering the epstein cover up? btw - honey combs taste like crap compared to the way it used to made. can trump straighten out post next?
July 30Jul 30 I'll put my name out that I really didn't care about the sugar in soda thingThough I would have rather he go after the ingredients that are supposedly linked to cancer than wanting to get real sugar backMaybe he will add it to the list he's on to get everyone to stop talking about Epstein 🤷♂️
July 30Jul 30 1 minute ago, Alpha_TATEr said:i think the issue they are taking is the fact that some (the trump administration) are making this out to be some glorious deal and are promoting it as being very beneficial to americans health wise. which it isn't.how much money, time and effort was put into this? why is suddenly ok with so many in the gop for the government to be pushing regulations on capitalism? why does this matter now considering the epstein cover up?btw - honey combs taste like crap compared to the way it used to made. can trump straighten out post next?And they can argue about that all they want. All I said was I'm excited about going back to how things used to be. If you've had a Coke that someone brought back from another country it does taste better IMO.We agree on cereals as well. I don't eat much of that crap anymore, but I'll steal a bite here and there and yikes.Hell, they changed Tastykakes as well. A guy in FL came up to me in a WaWa and said he was from the city and to put them back they are crap now. I didn't listen and they were different. That doesn't mean it's a HFCS thing as much as a GA company bought them and screwed with it.
July 30Jul 30 15 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:PubMedEffects of high-fructose corn syrup and sucrose on the ph...It is unclear whether high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS), which contains a higher amount of fructose and provides an immediate source of free fructose, induces greater systemic concentrations of fruct..."HFCS leads to greater fructose systemic exposure and significantly different acute metabolic effects."Quicker absorption isn't good for the liver, which again isn't a big deal for most, but it's not great for people who consume multiple sodas or products daily.PubMedConsumption of fructose and high fructose corn syrup incr...Consumption of HFCS-sweetened beverages for 2 wk at 25% E increased risk factors for cardiovascular disease comparably with fructose and more than glucose in young adults."Consumption of HFCS-sweetened beverages for 2 wk at 25% E increased risk factors for cardiovascular disease comparably with fructose and more than glucose in young adults."Again, glad you can find a way to freak out and have mental instability over I'm glad it will taste like it used to like it does in the other countries.Can you point out exactly where it corroborates your claim about hcfs sweetened soda causing more weight gain or liver damage than cane sugar sweetened soda?
July 30Jul 30 Just now, Diehardfan said:Hell, they changed Tastykakes as well. A guy in FL came up to me in a WaWa and said he was from the city and to put them back they are crap now. I didn't listen and they were different.tastykakes havent been the same since flowers foods bought them out.
July 30Jul 30 6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:Can you point out exactly where it corroborates your claim about hcfs sweetened soda causing more weight gain or liver damage than cane sugar sweetened soda?LOL you are such a troll who won't take the loss and move on even when I'm not spiking the football. Read the post and the quotes again it's in there. I'm moving on with my day. You can go argue with someone else about HFCS because you are triggered from here on out. I don't really care about the topic past nostalgia.
July 30Jul 30 7 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:tastykakes havent been the same since flowers foods bought them out.Yep. I added that at the end possibly after you saw it. Shame. Some things are better these days, but others I miss.
July 30Jul 30 8 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:LOL you are such a troll who won't take the loss and move on even when I'm not spiking the football. Read the post and the quotes again it's in there. I'm moving on with my day. You can go argue with someone else about HFCS because you are triggered from here on out. I don't really care about the topic past nostalgia.Look, cryhard, all I asked was where your sources corroborate your claim that hcfs causes more weight gain and liver damage than cane sugar. The first "study" which was led by an author of a book titled: The Sugar Fix: The High-Fructose fallout That Is Making You Fat and Sick, a declared conflict of interest, where the abstract only vaguely alludes to "significantly different acute metabolic effects." What exact metabolic effects? No details on how they are defined or quantified, nor do they imply any aspects of weight gain or liver damage. Further, the linked RCT from 2012 doesn't even show any results, meaning they were never submitted to NIH, presumably because they didn't show what the author of The Sugar Fix book was hoping they'd show, and likely the opposite.As for the second study, it literally mentioned only hcfs and never once describes any sort of comparison between hfcs and cane sugar. So if you were struggling to find the part where it shows that hfcs resulted in more weight gain than cane sugar, it's probably for that reason.So in summary, you tried, and failed miserably, to perform a search on google to confirm your preconceived notions, and then copy and pasted the first two links (probably from a gemini or grok summary) hoping nobody would actually read them. And then got mad when I asked you to, you know, actually read them.
July 30Jul 30 19 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:Look, cryhard, all I asked was where your sources corroborate your claim that hcfs causes more weight gain and liver damage than cane sugar. The first "study" which was led by an author of a book titled: The Sugar Fix: The High-Fructose fallout That Is Making You Fat and Sick, a declared conflict of interest, where the abstract only vaguely alludes to "significantly different acute metabolic effects." What exact metabolic effects? No details on how they are defined or quantified, nor do they imply any aspects of weight gain or liver damage. Further, the linked RCT from 2012 doesn't even show any results, meaning they were never submitted to NIH, presumably because they didn't show what the author of The Sugar Fix book was hoping they'd show, and likely the opposite.As for the second study, it literally mentioned only hcfs and never once describes any sort of comparison between hfcs and cane sugar. So if you were struggling to find the part where it shows that hfcs resulted in more weight gain than cane sugar, it's probably for that reason.So in summary, you tried, and failed miserably, to perform a search on google to confirm your preconceived notions, and then copy and pasted the first two links (probably from a gemini or grok summary) hoping nobody would actually read them. And then got mad when I asked you to, you know, actually read them.In short you are wrong and dying on a hill after being triggered because I said I'm glad it's going back to how it tasted in the 90s. As I've said you a miserable little man who thrives on this BS to fill holes in your life and this once again proves it. Pathetic actually.
July 30Jul 30 1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said:hey, you and d4p can shove it with your mocking.thank god president trump & rfk jr. are doing this. americans deserve better tasting coke a cola and it's not like i could just go to walmart, target, acme, bj's, wegman's, trader joe's, giant, shop n save, redner's, costco, sams club, walgreen's, aldi's to get some mexican coke.And all those Americans crossing the border to bring back vans full of superior mexican coke...talk about a major achievement putting and end to that.
July 30Jul 30 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:In short you are wrong and dying on a hill after being triggered because I said I'm glad it's going back to how it tasted in the 90s. As I've said you a miserable little man who thrives on this BS to fill holes in your life and this once again proves it.So you're still not willing to spend the 5 minutes needed to read them? Cool. Good talk, cryhard.
July 30Jul 30 3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:In short you are wrong and dying on a hill after being triggered because I said I'm glad it's going back to how it tasted in the 90s. As I've said you a miserable little man who thrives on this BS to fill holes in your life and this once again proves it. Pathetic actually.Almost no chance you could distinguish between the two in a blind taste test. Coke tastes like f'ing coke anywhere in the world and the differences you can tell have at least as much to do with the water source as the sugar used. What is PSYCHOTIC and PATHETIC is that cultists casually interject that the POTUS mandating his fave soda is an accomplishment in governance.
July 30Jul 30 5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:So you're still not willing to spend the 5 minutes needed to read them? Cool. Good talk, cryhard.OK....Frodo wants to keep at itThe studies I sent, clearly show HFCS increases liver fat and blood fats (triglycerides) more than cane sugar due to its fast-absorbing fructose, which stresses the liver and can lead to fatty liver disease. Stanhope’s study found HFCS spikes blood fats and bad cholesterol more than sugar, contributing to weight gain and liver issues. Maersk showed sugary drinks boost liver fat, and HFCS’s quicker fructose hit likely makes it worse. Your claim about having no results is off. It's data on HFCS raising uric acid and triglycerides is published on PubMed (PMID: 22152650). The peer-reviewed studies aren’t vague they directly counter your points with solid evidence. Recheck the links and then move on with your day to something that actually matters :)
July 30Jul 30 10 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:Almost no chance you could distinguish between the two in a blind taste test. Coke tastes like f'ing coke anywhere in the world and the differences you can tell have at least as much to do with the water source as the sugar used. What is PSYCHOTIC and PATHETIC is that cultists casually interject that the POTUS mandating his fave soda is an accomplishment in governance.That's what someone with TDS reads. Me: I'm glad there will be sugar in soda again I miss the old daysYou: The F you are going to get away with that
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