August 28Aug 28 3 minutes ago, Paul852 said:Can't list one thing he likes so far but is certain 85% of it is good.Won't list*
August 28Aug 28 Just now, Diehardfan said:Won't list*Sure, buddy. Taking a stand on actually listing what he agrees with.
August 28Aug 28 1 minute ago, Paul852 said:Because that's different from what you do here every day? You're so full of it. You got nothing.All you got, Pauly
August 28Aug 28 Just now, Paul852 said:Sure, buddy. Taking a stand on actually listing what he agrees with.Why do I have to take a stand with you? I couldn't care less what you think.
August 28Aug 28 Just now, Diehardfan said:All you got, PaulyYeah, you revealed your ignorance here (as usual). We can move on.
August 28Aug 28 Just now, Diehardfan said:Why do I have to take a stand with you? I couldn't care less what you think.I know. You've spent 20 replies assuring me as much.
August 28Aug 28 3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:I sure do. At least 85%Which parts do you agree or disagree with:Dismissal of Vaccine Experts: One of the most criticized actions has been his dismissal of all 17 members of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) and their replacement with his own hand-picked appointees, some of whom have little to no published literature on vaccines and are hostile to established vaccine science. This has led to medical associations, such as the American Medical Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics, being excluded from workgroups that support ACIP.Anti-Vaccine Rhetoric: Despite pledging during his confirmation hearing to "reassure the American people" about vaccine safety if shown data, critics allege he has continued to promote misinformation. For example, he has been accused of blaming malnutrition for a child's measles-related death and claiming the vaccine causes deaths, assertions that have been widely debunked. This has occurred amidst a growing measles outbreak in the U.SDismantling of Research: The HHS has announced a halt to research on mRNA vaccine technology, a decision criticized by infectious disease and biosecurity experts as "baffling and dangerous" and a move that could hinder the nation's ability to respond to future pandemics.Massive Staff Reductions: Kennedy's administration has overseen the firing of approximately 20,000 employees from key health agencies, including the CDC, FDA, and NIH. Critics argue this has "dismantled essential public health services" and weakened the nation's capacity to address health problems. Some top officials, including the CDC director, have resigned in protest of the new policiesSuppression of Scientific Information: Experts have accused Kennedy of mandating "politically motivated scrutiny" of research on "controversial, high profile, or sensitive" topics, effectively censoring research that does not align with his personal views.Fluoridation: He has announced plans for the CDC to stop recommending the fluoridation of community water, a public health measure that has been widely credited with reducing dental decayMedicaid Policy: A nationwide push to remove ineligible Medicaid enrollees and uphold citizenship requirements has been criticized for potentially reducing access to healthcare for vulnerable populations.Financial Conflicts of Interest: During his confirmation process, concerns were raised about a potential financial conflict of interest due to his ownership stake in ongoing litigation against certain vaccines, which critics argued would allow him to profit from undermining vaccine safety.
August 28Aug 28 Just now, Mike030270 said:Which parts do you agree or disagree with:Dismissal of Vaccine Experts: One of the most criticized actions has been his dismissal of all 17 members of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) and their replacement with his own hand-picked appointees, some of whom have little to no published literature on vaccines and are hostile to established vaccine science. This has led to medical associations, such as the American Medical Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics, being excluded from workgroups that support ACIP.Anti-Vaccine Rhetoric: Despite pledging during his confirmation hearing to "reassure the American people" about vaccine safety if shown data, critics allege he has continued to promote misinformation. For example, he has been accused of blaming malnutrition for a child's measles-related death and claiming the vaccine causes deaths, assertions that have been widely debunked. This has occurred amidst a growing measles outbreak in the U.SDismantling of Research: The HHS has announced a halt to research on mRNA vaccine technology, a decision criticized by infectious disease and biosecurity experts as "baffling and dangerous" and a move that could hinder the nation's ability to respond to future pandemics.Massive Staff Reductions: Kennedy's administration has overseen the firing of approximately 20,000 employees from key health agencies, including the CDC, FDA, and NIH. Critics argue this has "dismantled essential public health services" and weakened the nation's capacity to address health problems. Some top officials, including the CDC director, have resigned in protest of the new policiesSuppression of Scientific Information: Experts have accused Kennedy of mandating "politically motivated scrutiny" of research on "controversial, high profile, or sensitive" topics, effectively censoring research that does not align with his personal views.Fluoridation: He has announced plans for the CDC to stop recommending the fluoridation of community water, a public health measure that has been widely credited with reducing dental decayMedicaid Policy: A nationwide push to remove ineligible Medicaid enrollees and uphold citizenship requirements has been criticized for potentially reducing access to healthcare for vulnerable populations.Financial Conflicts of Interest: During his confirmation process, concerns were raised about a potential financial conflict of interest due to his ownership stake in ongoing litigation against certain vaccines, which critics argued would allow him to profit from undermining vaccine safety.By my math, around 7 out of 8 of those.
August 28Aug 28 1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:Which parts do you agree or disagree with:Dismissal of Vaccine Experts: One of the most criticized actions has been his dismissal of all 17 members of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) and their replacement with his own hand-picked appointees, some of whom have little to no published literature on vaccines and are hostile to established vaccine science. This has led to medical associations, such as the American Medical Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics, being excluded from workgroups that support ACIP.Anti-Vaccine Rhetoric: Despite pledging during his confirmation hearing to "reassure the American people" about vaccine safety if shown data, critics allege he has continued to promote misinformation. For example, he has been accused of blaming malnutrition for a child's measles-related death and claiming the vaccine causes deaths, assertions that have been widely debunked. This has occurred amidst a growing measles outbreak in the U.SDismantling of Research: The HHS has announced a halt to research on mRNA vaccine technology, a decision criticized by infectious disease and biosecurity experts as "baffling and dangerous" and a move that could hinder the nation's ability to respond to future pandemics.Massive Staff Reductions: Kennedy's administration has overseen the firing of approximately 20,000 employees from key health agencies, including the CDC, FDA, and NIH. Critics argue this has "dismantled essential public health services" and weakened the nation's capacity to address health problems. Some top officials, including the CDC director, have resigned in protest of the new policiesSuppression of Scientific Information: Experts have accused Kennedy of mandating "politically motivated scrutiny" of research on "controversial, high profile, or sensitive" topics, effectively censoring research that does not align with his personal views.Fluoridation: He has announced plans for the CDC to stop recommending the fluoridation of community water, a public health measure that has been widely credited with reducing dental decayMedicaid Policy: A nationwide push to remove ineligible Medicaid enrollees and uphold citizenship requirements has been criticized for potentially reducing access to healthcare for vulnerable populations.Financial Conflicts of Interest: During his confirmation process, concerns were raised about a potential financial conflict of interest due to his ownership stake in ongoing litigation against certain vaccines, which critics argued would allow him to profit from undermining vaccine safety.Love it all
August 28Aug 28 RFK is a very scary pick for that position. He may take some unhealthy things out of our foods. But his idea of what IS healthy is maybe just as dangerous to our health or more. He has no idea. Hes like that Bernard Hopkins guy who used to post on these boards about drinking his own urine. Hes like the online certified personal trainer who knows just enough to be dangerous and builds a large following in his local area who swear by him, meanwhile theyre all doing stupid things that he directs them to do.I would not take any of his advice on health. Not nutrition, and DEFINITELY not in healthcare. And I dont even really appreciate him taking bad things out of food if its not going to taste as good. People should learn how to make good decisions themselves. Eat bad things in moderation. I dont want RFK mandating bland, boring foods.
August 28Aug 28 2 minutes ago, Paul852 said:I know. You've spent 20 replies assuring me as much.I'm glad. Love our chats
August 28Aug 28 7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:Not just him. Most repubs in general it seems. The cult has really taken overI honestly don't know what is more weak and pathetic. Convincing themselves this is normal behavior their government has always carried out in some form or convincing themselves they have always lived so scared that this was necessary.
August 28Aug 28 Just now, HazletonEagle said:RFK is a very scary pick for that position. He may take some unhealthy things out of our foods. But his idea of what IS healthy is maybe just as dangerous to our health or more. He has no idea. Hes like that Bernard Hopkins guy who used to post on these boards about drinking his own urine. Hes like the online certified personal trainer who knows just enough to be dangerous and builds a large following in his local area who swear by him, meanwhile theyre all doing stupid things that he directs them to do.I would not take any of his advice on health. Not nutrition, and DEFINITELY not in healthcare.And I dont even really appreciate him taking bad things out of food if its not going to taste as good. People should learn how to make good decisions themselves. Eat bad things in moderation. I dont want RFK mandating bland, boring foods.See, DH, this guy likes to pi** of the libs as much as the next guy and even he knows better.
August 28Aug 28 1 minute ago, Paul852 said:You're anti-vaccine?used to be the liberal extremist POV. Its flipped. So weird.
August 28Aug 28 Just now, HazletonEagle said:used to be the liberal extremist POV. Its flipped. So weird.I'll never understand the attack on vaccines. Despite being the most unhealthy this country has ever been our life expectancy is still damn high because of our advances in medicine.
August 28Aug 28 1 minute ago, Paul852 said:See, DH, this guy likes to pi** of the libs as much as the next guy and even he knows better.I like HE. Even if we disagree he has good posts. Same with Mike
August 28Aug 28 1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:used to be the liberal extremist POV. Its flipped. So weird.It was the exclusive domain of the most liberal Hollywood quackery and drug stupefied hippies until about 15 years ago.
August 28Aug 28 4 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:Love it allI think you're only saying that to go against non maga. It fits your posting lately
August 28Aug 28 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:I like HE. Even if we disagree he has good postsAnd Im not going to make fun of you relentlessly for years and years for liking RFK. Weird. We can get along with diametrically opposing viewpoints.
August 28Aug 28 4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:And Im not going to make fun of you relentlessly for years and years for liking RFK. Weird. We can get along with diametrically opposing viewpoints.I do think he is a whack job. But sometimes you need a crazy SOB to fix stuff. Or at least trigger the libs.
August 28Aug 28 54 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:Where did Rudy send them that worked for over a decadeCalifornia lol
August 28Aug 28 5 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Or at least trigger the libs.Would've saved a lot of time if you started with this. You know he's not fixing a damn thing.
August 28Aug 28 7 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:I do think he is a whack job. But sometimes you need a crazy SOB to fix stuff. Or at least trigger the libs.You didn't trigger them numbskull, you RECRUITED them. The worst of the worst liberals, the ones so crazy they didn't even fit in the democrat party. RFK was their candidate and Trump got him to change parties so all the f'ing crazies could MAGA fest their conspiracy fever dreams together. And now they are mandating the crazy, at least the parts that don't ruffle the feathers of Trump's gazillionaire buddies' windfall designs, just the stupid crap like food colorings and bringing back the plague to kill the poors.
August 28Aug 28 6 minutes ago, Paul852 said:Would've saved a lot of time if you started with this. You know he's not fixing a damn thing.
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