1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Wouldn't call the border to be "good" considering the way he's done it is illegal

Don't conflate the border with deportation which is a different thing

Just now, DrPhilly said:

You can't even come up with say two or three examples? That's weak sauce man.

No, I'm saying I will not engage in that even if you want me to. Think what you want about the list. Talk with other people about that if you want. I'm not going down that today.

Just now, DrPhilly said:

Don't conflate the border with deportation which is a different thing

Exactly! I think the deportation stuff is disgusting and doing more harm than good for our country. But, the reductions in illegal border crossings is good.

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

Don't conflate the border with deportation which is a different thing

It's all under one thing for maga so...

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

No, I'm saying I will not engage in that even if you want me to.

Right and you do that because you can't come up with any other examples to make your point other than the border. All good.

Just now, DrPhilly said:

Right and you do that because you can't come up with any other examples to make your point other than the border. All good.

Again, think what you want. That won't be a two minute discussion. It will go for pages and I'm not interested in that today.

Just now, Mike030270 said:

It's all under one thing for maga so...

There are chunks of MAGA that don't like what has been going on with deportations. The bros, e.g. Joe Rogan, is the lead example. In any case, you don't have to agree with lumping them together as they most certainly are not the same thing.

Just now, DrPhilly said:

There are chunks of MAGA that don't like what has been going on with deportations. The bros, e.g. Joe Rogan, is the lead example. In any case, you don't have to agree with lumping them together as they most certainly are not the same thing.

Alright. Agree to disagree

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Again, think what you want. That won't be a two minute discussion. It will go for pages and I'm not interested in that today. I capitulate because I have no argument.

fyp

Just now, DrPhilly said:

fyp

Not taking the bait there either. You can play the back 9 I'm going home.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Not taking the bait there either. You can play the back 9 I'm going home.

Ok, we end it here

9 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Don't conflate the border with deportation which is a different thing

They are the regime's two pronged solution to immigration policy. They are absolutely intertwined and I don't think anybody involved would deny it.

2 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

They are the regime's two pronged solution to immigration policy. They are absolutely intertwined and I don't think anybody involved would deny it.

Yes they are separate parts of the overall WH immigration policy. One can be bad and one can be good. There is no contradiction with that.

47 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Yes they are separate parts of the overall WH immigration policy. One can be bad and one can be good. There is no contradiction with that.

One can be bad and one can be good like a football team can have a bad offense and a good defense. But they are the same team , attempting the same goal of eliminating immigrants from the US.

58 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Ok, we end it here

He was arguing for the tariffs yesterday if you wanna go back a few pages.

7 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

He was arguing for the tariffs yesterday if you wanna go back a few pages.

He was arguing that the tariffs are a good thing?

Just now, DrPhilly said:

He was arguing that the tariffs are a good thing?

Sure was. That was yesterday. Not playing 9 on that either today.

11 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

One can be bad and one can be good like a football team can have a bad offense and a good defense. But they are the same team , attempting the same goal of eliminating immigrants from the US.

Sure but it is perfectly reasonable to break it up and have a specific opinion on each part.

5 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Sure was. That was yesterday. Not playing 9 on that either today.

That makes sense given that you'd lose that argument as well.

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

That makes sense given that you'd lose that argument as well.

He did. Badly.

4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

He was arguing that the tariffs are a good thing?

If only. The problem is none of them can get past the fact that Trump lies every single day about who pays the tariffs. Since they don't dare contradict him on this basic fact, there's really no entry into a substantive discussion about if they are actually effective or not, or even what the end purpose of them is. Fealty to Trump supersedes the basic frameworks needed for debate.

3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

That makes sense given that you'd lose that argument as well.

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

He did. Badly.

1 minute ago, dawkins4prez said:

If only. The problem is none of them can get past the fact that Trump lies every single day about who pays the tariffs. Since they don't dare contradict him on this basic fact, there's really no entry into a substantive discussion about if they are actually effective or not, or even what the end purpose of them is. Fealty to Trump supersedes the basic frameworks needed for debate.

You saying he still believes the foreign country pays the tariffs?

Just now, DrPhilly said:

You saying he still believes the foreign country pays the tariffs?

In some cases. Absolutely. Others no. Still support them.