3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Yeah, I have a link. The percentage doesn't matter. Is it happening? Yes. I'm not getting into a game that you will probably want to play next of well it's less than the historic numbers. Irrelevant.

Can consumers eventually pay more for imported goods with tariffs? Yeah, that's part of the point. Do companies want to keep the market share and absorb it? Yes.

"Starting in the fall, as many of the higher tariffs threatened by Trump take effect, the consumer share of the tariff cost is expected to rise to 67%, the Goldman analysts said, while the share for U.S. businesses will fall to 8%. The remaining 25% will be absorbed by foreign exporters."

https://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2025/08/11/US-Will-Pay-75-Tariff-Costs-Goldman-Sachs

27 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Yeah, I have a link. The percentage doesn't matter. Is it happening? Yes. I'm not getting into a game that you will probably want to play next of well it's less than the historic numbers. Irrelevant.

Can consumers eventually pay more for imported goods with tariffs? Yeah, that's part of the point. Do companies want to keep the market share and absorb it? Yes.

"Starting in the fall, as many of the higher tariffs threatened by Trump take effect, the consumer share of the tariff cost is expected to rise to 67%, the Goldman analysts said, while the share for U.S. businesses will fall to 8%. The remaining 25% will be absorbed by foreign exporters."

https://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2025/08/11/US-Will-Pay-75-Tariff-Costs-Goldman-Sachs

The percentage absolutely matters. How on earth would it not matter? The link you posted (which starts with the title "Tariffs about to clobber US consumers" lol) says that US importers and consumers are responsible for 88% of the tariff burdens currently and they're hoping it goes down to 75% in the fall. That's already pretty rough, and a far cry from the 10% you pulled out of your ass yesterday. And yet it's even worse when you factor in what we discussed yesterday where numerous studies show these tariffs are not behaving like historical tariffs, with importers feeling a much higher burden than expected. 75% seems like BEST case scenario here and it's pretty bataheet crazy for anyone who identifies as a fiscal conservative to support that

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

The percentage absolutely matters. How on earth would it not matter? The link you posted (which starts with the title "Tariffs about to clobber US consumers" lol) says that US importers and consumers are responsible for 88% of the tariff burdens currently and they're hoping it goes down to 75% in the fall. That's already pretty rough, and a far cry from the 10% you pulled out of your ass yesterday. And yet it's even worse when you factor in what we discussed yesterday where numerous studies show these tariffs are not behaving like historical tariffs, with importers feeling a much higher burden than expected. 75% seems like BEST case scenario here and it's pretty bataheet crazy for anyone who identifies as a fiscal conservative to support that

Do importers absorb the cost

Historically yes and currently yes

7 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Do importers absorb the cost

Historically yes and currently yes

So in your mind if the importers absorb ANY cost the tariffs are successful. I got that right?

Just now, DEagle7 said:

So in your mind if the importers absorb ANY cost the tariffs are successful. I got that right?

Wrong. What makes them successful is a round for another day.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

Gross...you are bragging about a pedophilic president, Squirt. Maybe reconsider some of those life choices

you said squirt

16 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Gross...you are bragging about a pedophilic president, Squirt. Maybe reconsider some of those life choices

Lot of false wishes that won't come true in there.

In the meantime

25 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Wrong. What makes them successful is a round for another day.

Cool so you're arguing semantics with yourself and not engaging in the actual argument about these tariffs having a dramatically higher burden on US businesses and consumers and why that's bad. Got it.

6 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Cool so you're arguing semantics with yourself and not engaging in the actual argument about a tariffs having a dramatically higher burden on US businesses and consumers and why that's bad. Got it.

Another incorrect diagnosis doc

I don’t know how to time stamp it so skip to 9:05 😂

2 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Wrong. What makes them successful is a round for another day.

No, this type of policy has already been proven to be a failure throughout history. But some have to learn the hard way I guess.

Nine universities were invited to have the pro-wrestling lady plan their curriculum in exchange for cash.

Sorry Linda he's busy posting memes

10 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Wrong. What makes them successful is a round for another day.

You’ve already stated your definition of success. It is in every one of my posts in the signature.

6 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

You’ve already stated your definition of success. It is in every one of my posts in the signature.

I don't see it but that's awesome

13 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I don't see it but that's awesome

"Diehardfan measures the success of Trump's tariff strategy based on the significant return of widespread manufacturing to the US by April 2026, i.e. 100s of new huge factories with 100s of thousands of American factory workers in place."

Here it is for you again. You agreed with this back in the beginning of April.

4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

"Diehardfan measures the success of Trump's tariff strategy based on the significant return of widespread manufacturing to the US by April 2026, i.e. 100s of new huge factories with 100s of thousands of American factory workers in place."

Here it is for you again. You agreed with this back in the beginning of April.

I said one year? Honored to be your sig. I don't remember saying 100 either. What was my exact quote,

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

I said one year? Honored to be your sig.

Yes, one year. Halfway to go.

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Yes, one year. Halfway to go.

Quote my exact post. That sounds like you all hyper exaggerating what I said.