7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

and the cucks cheer it on by being silent.

This liberal snowflake talks about tariffs.

Trump and Maga stand against Free Trade and economic growth and for Protectionism and economic collapse.

23 hours ago, lynched1 said:

I don't see much difference from any other administration at this point.

Yeah, seems like you don't see very much at all given your posting in here

One difference, Under Biden, China was buying 13 billion in soybeans. Under Trump China is buying Zero.

2 hours ago, Gannan said:

1. Do we agree he's a person? Debatable but for our purposes here, he qualifies as a person.

2. Elected. Do we agree that elections are still how we choose presidents? Good

3. More than twice. Do we agree he was elected twice? Once in 2016. Once in 2024. Good.

He cannot Fing run again. If he does then the rest of the constitution goes with it and they can take your guns, your privacy rights, your free speech, etc.

The plan is obvious -- Vance runs, names Trump as his running mate. If Vance wins, he resigns and Trump serves out the term. The amendment says you can't be elected more than 2 times, it doesn't say you can't serve more than 2 terms. To be the VP nominee, you have to meet the qualifications to serve as POTUS (35, natural born citizen), but not the qualifications to be elected POTUS.

That's the loophole.

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

The plan is obvious -- Vance runs, names Trump as his running mate. If Vance wins, he resigns and Trump serves out the term. The amendment says you can't be elected more than 2 times, it doesn't say you can't serve more than 2 terms. To be the VP nominee, you have to meet the qualifications to serve as POTUS (35, natural born citizen), but not the qualifications to be elected POTUS.

That's the loophole.

cucks are gonna cuck, including vance.

9 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

The plan is obvious -- Vance runs, names Trump as his running mate. If Vance wins, he resigns and Trump serves out the term. The amendment says you can't be elected more than 2 times, it doesn't say you can't serve more than 2 terms. To be the VP nominee, you have to meet the qualifications to serve as POTUS (35, natural born citizen), but not the qualifications to be elected POTUS.

That's the loophole.

What would be hilarious about that is if Vance refuses to resign. I thought you had to be qualified to be elected, so I thought they might try to have Trump as speaker. Either way this is beyond pathetic even for the republicans.

11 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

The plan is obvious -- Vance runs, names Trump as his running mate. If Vance wins, he resigns and Trump serves out the term. The amendment says you can't be elected more than 2 times, it doesn't say you can't serve more than 2 terms. To be the VP nominee, you have to meet the qualifications to serve as POTUS (35, natural born citizen), but not the qualifications to be elected POTUS.

That's the loophole.

I think the 12th stops that loophole. The position of VP is basically a president backup. If you can't be president then you should be ineligible to be VP

This video is tremendous! What an absolute mess Trump is as people laugh at him. And JFC the look on the ghouls face at the end. HAHA

Howard Mortman on X: "Senate Republicans at the White House for Rose Garden lunch with President Trump. https://t.co/rWGnnY72kl" / X

3 minutes ago, barho said:

This video is tremendous! What an absolute mess Trump is as people laugh at him. And JFC the look on the ghouls face at the end. HAHA

Howard Mortman on X: "Senate Republicans at the White House for Rose Garden lunch with President Trump. https://t.co/rWGnnY72kl" / X

Donnie Dementia can put a star in the star hole. Only 3 attempts. What a doofus.

7 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said:

Donnie Dementia can put a star in the star hole. Only 3 attempts. What a doofus.

OK, he didn't say that. c'mon guys, stay above board here please.

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

The plan is obvious -- Vance runs, names Trump as his running mate. If Vance wins, he resigns and Trump serves out the term. The amendment says you can't be elected more than 2 times, it doesn't say you can't serve more than 2 terms. To be the VP nominee, you have to meet the qualifications to serve as POTUS (35, natural born citizen), but not the qualifications to be elected POTUS.

That's the loophole.

You think that would survive judicial review?

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

I think the 12th stops that loophole. The position of VP is basically a president backup. If you can't be president then you should be ineligible to be VP

Nothing says he can't serve as President. It says he can't be elected President.

c'mon now, it's not like trump to try and use a loophole.

7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

You think that would survive judicial review?

Yes. Especially from this court.

First off, this is the language from the 12th Amendment:

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States

At the time the Amendment was passed, the qualifications to be President were as follows:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

So clearly, the intent was to make sure the VP was simply 35 and a natural born citizen.

The language of the 22nd Amendment clearly says "elected," not "serve."

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

So in order to declare this Unconstitutional, the court would need to infer the intent of the drafters of the 22nd Amendment to mean serve when the plain language says "elected."

If I were on SCOTUS, I would rule this Constitutional. I do believe this flies in the face of the intent of the 22nd Amendment, but intent only matters when language is ambiguous. I see no ambiguity here, as the 22nd Amendment could have been drafted to say "serve."

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

Nothing says he can't serve as President. It says he can't be elected President.

The 12th says "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

The supposed loophole is pinpointing serving and electing but to go from president ->vp->president then you'd need to be elected and the 12th would stop it

If you somehow go from the next in line which would be speaker of the house and then become president though that would be the loophole

The 22nd says they become ineligible after being elected for 2 terms. The 12th says you can't be vp if you're ineligible for president. Their ineligibility for election makes them "constitutionally ineligible to the office of president" in the broader sense. If they are "constitutionally ineligible to the office of president" the 12th explicitly states they cannot be eligible for VP

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Yes. Especially from this court.

First off, this is the language from the 12th Amendment:

At the time the Amendment was passed, the qualifications to be President were as follows:

So clearly, the intent was to make sure the VP was simply 35 and a natural born citizen.

The language of the 22nd Amendment clearly says "elected," not "serve."

So in order to declare this Unconstitutional, the court would need to infer the intent of the drafters of the 22nd Amendment to mean serve when the plain language says "elected."

If I were on SCOTUS, I would rule this Constitutional. I do believe this flies in the face of the intent of the 22nd Amendment, but intent only matters when language is ambiguous. I see no ambiguity here, as the 22nd Amendment could have been drafted to say "serve."

Cool. So then the dems place Obama on the ticket as VP. Got it.

My understanding of readings by legal experts is that Trump would be considered ineligible due to having served two terms. Rendering him ineligible for both the office of the president and the VP.

The language about qualifications is only part of eligibility.

2 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

Yeah, seems like you don't see very much at all given your posting in here

What you think has no bearing on my life. "Think" as you please.

Just now, lynched1 said:

What you think has no bearing on my life. "Think" as you please.

That's all good and has no bearing whatsoever as to what you "see" or rather "don't see".

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

That's all good and has no bearing whatsoever as to what you "see" or rather "don't see".

You should make another attempt at that retort.