2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Political affiliation, like religious affiliation, has nothing to do with genealogy. I wonder if he thinks being a raycist is also genetic?

6 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

Political affiliation, like religious affiliation, has nothing to do with genealogy. I wonder if he thinks being a raycist is also genetic?

Nobody has embarrassed himself more when trying to speak authoritatively on genetics than TEW.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said:

Political affiliation, like religious affiliation, has nothing to do with genealogy. I wonder if he thinks being a raycist is also genetic?

 

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Here we present results from original analyses of a combined sample of over 12,000 twins pairs, ascertained from nine different studies conducted in five democracies, sampled over the course of four decades. We provide evidence that genetic factors play a role in the formation of political ideology, regardless of how ideology is measured, the era, or the population sampled. 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4038932/#:~:text=Abstract,be explained by genetic influences.
 

Stick to smoking crack.

1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said:

Political affiliation, like religious affiliation, has nothing to do with genealogy. I wonder if he thinks being a raycist is also genetic?

Ill bet you also think that intelligence isnt genetic

 

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Nobody has embarrassed himself more when trying to speak authoritatively on genetics than TEW.

He really needs to step up his game.

Your ability to embarrass yourself across a multitude of topics beyond your expertise as a bottom is truly inspirational.

#legend

2 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

Political affiliation, like religious affiliation, has nothing to do with genealogy. I wonder if he thinks being a raycist is also genetic?

15 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Ill bet you also think that intelligence isnt genetic

Political and religious affiliation doesn’t have anything to do with intelligence. 

24 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Ill bet you also think that intelligence isnt genetic

Wait, you think political affiliation is genetic too?

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Wait, you think political affiliation is genetic too?

Its almost always a mix of genetics and environment.

logic vs emotion balance, etc would certainly be rooted in genetics and also weigh into political affiliation.

you may now commence your nonsensical semantic debate that only you think is intelligent…

2 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Its almost always a mix of genetics and environment.

logic vs emotion balance, etc would certainly be rooted in genetics and also weigh into political affiliation.

you may now commence your nonsensical semantic debate that only you think is intelligent…

Can point to a study that supports your wild opinion on this or is it more of a "trust me, bro" type of argument?

9 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Can point to a study that supports your wild opinion on this or is it more of a "trust me, bro" type of argument?

Here you go, posted above:

50 minutes ago, TEW said:

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4038932/#:~:text=Abstract,be explained by genetic influences.
 

Stick to smoking crack.

 

4 minutes ago, TEW said:

Here you go, posted above:

 

Unless the twins are being raised in different environments/households, the nurture component is not able to be sufficiently separated from the nature component. There were some studies done in such cases but sample sizes were exceedingly small due to how rare it was for twins to be given up for adoption and then split up. There was an adoption agency in NYC in the 70's that did exactly this was but was stopped for ethical reasons.

https://othermeans.io/p/the-unexpected-virtue-of-chaos

 

Pretty decent little write up from a left leaning natsec bro.

55 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Can point to a study that supports your wild opinion on this or is it more of a "trust me, bro" type of argument?

If you're serious about your question, this book is worth a read.

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Pinker identifies as a liberal who is critical of some aspects of the far-left. He supports same-sex marriage, a universal basic income, the legalization of drugs, the taxation of carbon, and the abolition of capital punishment. Pinker is a strong supporter of the Democratic Party.

 

22 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

If you're serious about your question, this book is worth a read.

I've read some of it a while ago before putting it down. Soft sciences are soft for a reason. Blank slate theory was always a fallacy, but political ideology is even more abstract than something like intelligence, which is incredibly complex and our best methods to quantify it are primarily based on objective cognitive testing, let alone subjective surveying. Until you can properly control for environment (which is an ethical quagmire) it's going to be difficult to prove causation rather than correlation with any level of confidence. 

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

... Until you can properly control for environment (which is an ethical quagmire)...

this.

hence why those twin studies were halted.

12 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

this.

hence why those twin studies were halted.

Eventually, I think we'll be able to glean more insight into what determines an individual's innate ability with more ethical methods. Though the company seems to be on the verge of bankruptcy these days, I was once hopeful that 23andMe would be able to make larger strides in narrowing down groups of certain SNPs for a variety of traits, conditions, or abilities that we had been struggling to understand for decades. Easy enough when we're talking about something that's easy to measure like motion sickness or restless leg syndrome. Much more difficult for anything without good metrics to build data from.

With enough time and improvements in sequencing, I think we'll get there, but until then, I'm skeptical on the levels of confidence some of these conclusions are being made with.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Eventually, I think we'll be able to glean more insight into what determines an individual's innate ability with more ethical methods. Though the company seems to be on the verge of bankruptcy these days, I was once hopeful that 23andMe would be able to make larger strides in narrowing down groups of certain SNPs for a variety of traits, conditions, or abilities that we had been struggling to understand for decades. Easy enough when we're talking about something that's easy to measure like motion sickness or restless leg syndrome. Much more difficult for anything without good metrics to build data from.

With time and improvements in sequencing, I think we'll get there, but until then, I'm skeptical on the levels of confidence some of these conclusions are being made with.

I wouldn't gloss over the fact that it's a third rail in academia. And I'm not talking about the lifetime tracking studies. I mean any thesis that might hint at differences in inherent ability between people or groups of people.

1 minute ago, Arthur Jackson said:

I wouldn't gloss over the fact that it's a third rail in academia. And I'm not talking about the lifetime tracking studies. I mean any thesis that might hint at differences in inherent ability between people or groups of people.

Yeah that makes it a bit of a minefield too.

5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Yeah that makes it a bit of a minefield too.

https://www.city-journal.org/article/dont-even-go-there#:~:text=The National Institutes of Health,may enter "forbidden” territory.&text=A policy of deliberate ignorance,scientific institutions in the West.

I do wonder how much Trump spent.

21 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

Political affiliation, like religious affiliation, has nothing to do with genealogy. I wonder if he thinks being a raycist is also genetic?

 

21 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Nobody has embarrassed himself more when trying to speak authoritatively on genetics than TEW.

 

19 hours ago, TEW said:

 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4038932/#:~:text=Abstract,be explained by genetic influences.
 

Stick to smoking crack.

Wait, so little man and old & fail don't just embarrass themselves over the work week, they're here Saturday and Sunday to take punishment, too? lmfao.