6 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Musk doesn't strike me as that strategic. 

I have a big hat.

11 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Musk doesn't strike me as that strategic. 

well no

1 hour ago, Phillyterp85 said:

What I posted had nothing to do with COLA increases.  COLA is in regards to the OUTLAYS from the government for social security.  What I posted was the TAX RATES, i.e the COLLECTIONS by the government.  You've made the false claim numerous times that it's only been the democrats that have worked to expand the social security taxes.  That is 10000% false. 

If you would like to discuss the COLA increases signed by Nixon as well, we certainly can.  The legislation passed by Nixon is responsible for the largest increases in SS outlays.  It's not even a question.  Prior to that law, congress had to pass legislation for any COLA adjustment.  The law Nixon signed provided a 1 time 20% COLA adjustment to the baseline and provided for AUTOMATIC increases to the outlays tied to inflation.    Just as the legislation Carter signed into law is responsible for the largest increases in the income threshold as it made those increases AUTOMATIC.  

"What you are missing is that Social Security didn't start to financially deteriorate until the early 80s."

lol yeah I wonder if the legislation signed by Nixon that drastically increased outlays had anything to do with that......

Why do you keep ignoring the fact that Democrats have openly opposed entitlement reform for the last 30 years? 

This is taken directly from the DNC's official platform paper:

"We’ll never back down from our ironclad commitment to protecting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. We reject any effort to privatize Social Security or to cut any of the benefits that the American people have earned"

https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/2024_Democratic_Party_Platform_8a2cf8.pdf

 

 

GOP Platform -though they added in the usual tropes, looks like the GOP is as committed to protecting, not cutting these programs. 

1. Protect Social Security

Social Security is a lifeline for millions of Retirees, yet corrupt politicians have robbed Social Security to fund their pet projects. Republicans will restore Economic Stability to ensure the long-term sustainability of Social Security.

2. Strengthen Medicare

Republicans will protect Medicare's finances from being financially crushed by the Democrat plan to add tens of millions of new illegal immigrants to the rolls of Medicare. We vow to strengthen Medicare for future generations.

1 minute ago, Tnt4philly said:

 

GOP Platform -though they added in the usual tropes, looks like the GOP is as committed to protecting, not cutting these programs. 

1. Protect Social Security

Social Security is a lifeline for millions of Retirees, yet corrupt politicians have robbed Social Security to fund their pet projects. Republicans will restore Economic Stability to ensure the long-term sustainability of Social Security.

2. Strengthen Medicare

Republicans will protect Medicare's finances from being financially crushed by the Democrat plan to add tens of millions of new illegal immigrants to the rolls of Medicare. We vow to strengthen Medicare for future generations.

"restore economic stability" vs. "reject any effort"

I guess what it all really boils down to is...if either of these parties where to get their way on SS...what would you prefer?  Privatization / cuts or raising taxes to cover the losses while the program lives on in its current state? 

Those are your choices. 

28 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Why do you keep ignoring the fact that Democrats have openly opposed entitlement reform for the last 30 years? 

This is taken directly from the DNC's official platform paper:

"We’ll never back down from our ironclad commitment to protecting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. We reject any effort to privatize Social Security or to cut any of the benefits that the American people have earned"

https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/2024_Democratic_Party_Platform_8a2cf8.pdf

 

Once again, im not ignoring it.  Please stop lying about what I’m saying.  Nowhere have I claimed that democrats are in favor of cutting social security.

Yeah you know who else isn’t in favor of cutting social security?  REPUBLICANS!  
 

28 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

"restore economic stability" vs. "reject any effort"

I guess what it all really boils down to is...if either of these parties where to get their way on SS...what would you prefer?  Privatization / cuts or raising taxes to cover the losses while the program lives on in its current state? 

Those are your choices. 

Oh you mean like all the times in the past throughout the entire history of the program when the republicans have voted to raise taxes to cover the losses while the program lives on in its current state?  Once again Republican presidents are responsible for nearly 75% of the social security tax increases since the program’s inception.

You seem to have created an alternate reality where this isn’t the case…

1 hour ago, The Norseman said:

"restore economic stability" vs. "reject any effort"

I guess what it all really boils down to is...if either of these parties where to get their way on SS...what would you prefer?  Privatization / cuts or raising taxes to cover the losses while the program lives on in its current state? 

Those are your choices. 

You may be a mellower version of DHF, but your willful ignorance is equally high.
 

I would rather Jo Jorgenson had her way in 2020 and was able to get something akin to the 6.2% plan passed. However, at 61,  I have no choice to stay with what has been sold to me by both parties, and what I have been paying into since 1977. 

3 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Oh you mean like all the times in the past throughout the entire history of the program when the republicans have voted to raise taxes to cover the losses while the program lives on in its current state?  Once again Republican presidents are responsible for nearly 75% of the social security tax increases since the program’s inception.

You seem to have created an alternate reality where this isn’t the case…

You didn't answer the question

2 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

You may be a mellower version of DHF, but your willful ignorance is equally high.
 

I would rather Jo Jorgenson had her way in 2020 and was able to get something akin to the 6.2% plan passed. However, at 61,  I have no choice to stay with what has been sold to me by both parties, and what I have been paying into since 1977. 

Neither did you

9 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

You didn't answer the question

You answered a question based on false pretenses.  I mean shoot while we're at it let's make up a fantasy land where Democrats want to secure the border.

11 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:

You answered a question based on false pretenses.  I mean shoot while we're at it let's make up a fantasy land where Democrats want to secure the border.

Nice deflection

2 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Nice deflection

No, it's not a deflection.  I already told you want my personal preference would be.  Get rid of social security all together.  It's a Ponzi scheme that robs people of a better retirement that they otherwise could have had.    You keep on creating this false reality in which republicans haven't been actively expanding the program since it's inception.    

16 hours ago, The Norseman said:

"restore economic stability" vs. "reject any effort"

I guess what it all really boils down to is...if either of these parties where to get their way on SS...what would you prefer?  Privatization / cuts or raising taxes to cover the losses while the program lives on in its current state? 

Those are your choices. 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/03/fact-check-president-trump-will-always-protect-social-security-medicare/

"The Trump Administration will not cut Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid benefits. President Trump himself has said it (over and over and over again)."

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-says-we-re-not-touching-social-security-in-proposed-cuts-to-government-spending-226493509716

"We're not touching social security....The people are getting what they're getting.  And we're not raising ages"

how to show you're a cuck without admitting you're a cuck

by every trumper breathing. 

1 hour ago, Phillyterp85 said:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/03/fact-check-president-trump-will-always-protect-social-security-medicare/

"The Trump Administration will not cut Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid benefits. President Trump himself has said it (over and over and over again)."

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-says-we-re-not-touching-social-security-in-proposed-cuts-to-government-spending-226493509716

"We're not touching social security....The people are getting what they're getting.  And we're not raising ages"

Right, there is no option to eliminate it.  Your choices are to reform it to make it economically viable, or raise taxes to keep it going as is.  Which do you choose?

10 minutes ago, The Norseman said:

Right, there is no option to eliminate it.  Your choices are to reform it to make it economically viable, or raise taxes to keep it going as is.  Which do you choose?

There is no such thing as "reform it to make it economically viable”.  Again, it’s a Ponzi scheme.  Ponzi schemes are not economically viable.  That’s why they are called "Ponzi schemes” and not "Ponzi investments”

So if eliminating it is not an option.  Then the only true option is to raise taxes to keep it going as is.  Trump has already said he’s not going to reduce benefits and he’s not going to raise the retirement age.  So guess what option that leaves….DING DING DING raise taxes so that benefits can continue to be paid out.

Because again, that’s how a Ponzi scheme works.  The way to keep a Ponzi scheme going is to raise more capital to continue to make payouts.  Social security is a Ponzi scheme.  

Was there any agency in the federal government that wasn't funneling money directly to libtards and their fake slush funds? It's astounding how many liberals need to be in jail or worse. Imagine voting for this lmao.

1 hour ago, Phillyterp85 said:

There is no such thing as "reform it to make it economically viable”.  Again, it’s a Ponzi scheme.  Ponzi schemes are not economically viable.  That’s why they are called "Ponzi schemes” and not "Ponzi investments”

So if eliminating it is not an option.  Then the only true option is to raise taxes to keep it going as is.  Trump has already said he’s not going to reduce benefits and he’s not going to raise the retirement age.  So guess what option that leaves….DING DING DING raise taxes so that benefits can continue to be paid out.

Because again, that’s how a Ponzi scheme works.  The way to keep a Ponzi scheme going is to raise more capital to continue to make payouts.  Social security is a Ponzi scheme.  

just end it and put the money right into whatever type of retirement plan you already have. 

it will never happen though, because, ponzi. 

1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

just end it and put the money right into whatever type of retirement plan you already have. 

it will never happen though, because, ponzi. 

exactly

 

 

The National Day Laborer Organizing Network (NDLON), headquartered in Pasadena, California is a non-governmental organization that is operating as a career center for illegal aliens.

Amidst a nation still recovering from Joe Biden’s economy, which left Americans reeling from rising unemployment, NDLON is focused NOT on finding jobs for American citizens, but instead, for those who have already broken the law to be here.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/exclusive-career-center-california-exposed-undercover-video-employing/

 

 

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1905388843265667267

Elon Musk says this is a revolution and suggests people who complain about it are fraudsters

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1905381364842856580

Musk: The success of doge is only possible with President Trump and with the outstanding cabinet that he selected. It would be impossible without the support of the president and the cabinet.

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1905381929094144468

Musk: But, usually when they attack DOGE, they never attack any of the specifics. So they will say what we're doing is somehow unconstitutional or illegal or whatever. We are like well, which line of the cost savings do you disagree with? And they can't point to any

 

 

 

Here’s the entire interview. How people continue to defend, and deflect for, the fraud and corruption is beyond me.