February 26, 2025Feb 26 46 minutes ago, pisceschica said: Makes me wonder about Musk's government contracts I was told people like Jacob were leeches sucking the life out of American taxpayers, the lowest of the lowest, subhuman… was I lied to?
February 26, 2025Feb 26 19 hours ago, DrPhilly said: You may not be familiar with the bad stuff going on in the UK due to these types of woke run amok issues but they are very real my friend. Its a very hard environment to say what you think or debate the issue fairly. The fact the Cass Review happened still amazes me. 19 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: That is a free speech issue that I admit I glossed over in my condemnation of UKE. Maybe he isn’t as far right as I believe, but I previously pegged him on par with our other right wing kings here in CVON. We have to thread the needle over here with the T stuff. The dam started to break on the T issue with the aforementioned Cass Review & Maya Forstater's legal fight on gender critical views, and then the truth finally coming out about what the Mermaids charity and NHS have done to kids (along with Stonewall). To countenance the right wing stuff from the usual suspects, very left wing people like JK Rowling are equally as angry with what has gone on and are consistent under torrents of of abuse/doxxing from activists. We've had left wing politicians (Rosie Duffield) leave their party because of their views about the T from their own ideological peers. She was bulled to comply. For the sake of the DOGE stuff, I'll leave it there. But no way should your tax dollars be funding a charity in the UK. Let us waste our money on that stuff.
February 26, 2025Feb 26 21 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: I picked up on the clues, but the goal is making you right wing whackos speak your ignorance based bigotry out loud. Oh no, please don't make us say that men have Ds and women have Vs, its so embarrassing!
February 26, 2025Feb 26 41 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Oh no, please don't make us say that men have Ds and women have Vs, it’s so embarrassing! I never made that argument so GFY, and come back when you calm down.
February 26, 2025Feb 26 29 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: I never made that argument so GFY, and come back when you calm down. They can't win on inflation, Russia, or a subservient Trump taking orders from Musk, so they gotta deflect it back to trannies somehow. It's the only move they have left.
February 26, 2025Feb 26 *sigh* The "stop with all the identity politics!" crowd sure does find a way to make every issue about the half a percent of the population that's trans. It's a weird obsession.
February 26, 2025Feb 26 Just now, DEagle7 said: *sigh* The "stop with all the identity politics!" crowd sure does find a way to make every issue about the half a percent of the population that's trans. It's a weird obsession. There was a really really simple way to take that silly topic off the table.
February 26, 2025Feb 26 13 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: There was a really really simple way to take that silly topic off the table. And what's that?
February 26, 2025Feb 26 15 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: There was a really really simple way to take that silly topic off the table. 1 minute ago, DEagle7 said: And what's that? They could have backed off on allowing biological males from playing female sports. Regardless of how a TG female feels in her head, her body isn’t. They could have also backed off of having the government paying for transition surgery.
February 26, 2025Feb 26 3 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: They could have backed off on allowing biological males from playing female sports. Regardless of how a TG female feels in her head, her body isn’t. They could have also backed off of having the government paying for transition surgery. Seems like issues that should be left to the NCAA, insurance companies and doctors to me. Especially with the scale we're talking about.
February 26, 2025Feb 26 7 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: And what's that? Just be logical about the topic. Take the prison, sports, bathroom topics off the debate list as they are just simply no-brainers. Accept that the medical treatment for kids topic is complex and put in some reasonable regulation to allow it over a certain age (say 13) but only when certain conditions are met and with parents being part of the process. Definitely don't allow anything that is not 100% reversable unless very strict conditions are met. Require schools to inform parents of any issues on this topic. Do that and the idiots on the far right have no argument and the rest of the population will tell them to F off. Medical doctors will retain the possibility to prescribe treatment for gender dysphoria and patients can still get care when it is clearly necessary and all other options are exhausted.
February 26, 2025Feb 26 3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Just be logical about the topic. Take the prison, sports, bathroom topics off the debate list as they are just simply no-brainers. Accept that the medical treatment for kids topic is complex and put in some reasonable regulation to allow it over a certain age (say 13) but only when certain conditions are met and with parents being part of the process. Definitely don't allow anything that is not 100% reversable unless very strict conditions are met. Require schools to inform parents of any issues on this topic. Do that and the idiots on the far right have no argument and the rest of the population will tell them to F off. Medical doctors will retain the possibility to prescribe treatment for gender dysphoria and patients can still get care when it is clearly necessary and all other options are exhausted. Honestly I think that's naive. Again the NCAA thing is all over the headlines for years and "necessitated" an EO, and we're talking about less than 10 out of 500,000 athletes. Do you genuinely think there's a world where the right accepts reversible treatments like puberty blockers in kids? They will always find an issue with their existence and make it a platform.
February 26, 2025Feb 26 1 minute ago, DEagle7 said: Honestly I think that's naive. Again the NCAA thing is all over the headlines for years and "necessitated" an EO, and we're talking about less than 10 out of 500,000 athletes. Do you genuinely think there's a world where the right accepts reversible treatments like puberty blockers in kids? They will always find an issue with their existence and make it a platform. Dude, the failure to deal with the sports topic was a total own goal by the Dems. They could have wiped that issue off the campaign in about one hour. Instead, Trump's "Harris for they/them and I'm for you" commercial was the single biggest impacting commercial of the entire campaign. it has nothing to do with how many people it actually affects. It is just plain political stupidity not to deal with it particularly when 85% of the population is in agreement. Regulation details are tougher for sure but back in '23 it could have been accomplished especially given the alternative for the right was no regulation.
February 26, 2025Feb 26 18 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: If only we could find the fraud. Where oh whhhheeerreee could it be?
February 26, 2025Feb 26 27 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: any of the cucks wanna weigh in on this or are you all oging to continue to act like hunter biden was something that needed so much attention? eh? @lynched1 @Procus @It Hurts @The_Omega
February 26, 2025Feb 26 4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Dude, the failure to deal with the sports topic was a total own goal by the Dems. They could have wiped that issue off the campaign in about one hour. Instead, Trump's "Harris for they/them and I'm for you" commercial was the single biggest impacting commercial of the entire campaign. it has nothing to do with how many people it actually affects. It is just plain political stupidity not to deal with it particularly when 85% of the population is in agreement. Regulation details are tougher for sure but back in '23 it could have been accomplished especially given the alternative for the right was no regulation. They would have just pivoted to another trans issue. And "regulation details" are the issue. It's not just a commercial, it's proposed bills. They simply would have kept making broader and broader bills attacking trans people until the Dems voted "no" and then made the same damn commercial. Again negative identity politics is their platform (trans bathrooms, Haitians eating pets, etc etc) and you're not neutralizing that by giving in every time since backwoods MAGAtard puts forward some half baked bill to do dick checks on all athletes or some goofy crap like that
February 26, 2025Feb 26 2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: They would have just pivoted to another trans issue. And "regulation details" are the issue. It's not just a commercial, it's proposed bills. They simply would have kept making broader and broader bills attacking trans people until the Dems voted "no" and then made the same damn commercial. Again negative identity politics is their platform (trans bathrooms, Haitians eating pets, etc etc) and you're not neutralizing that by giving in every time since backwoods MAGAtard puts forward some half baked bill to do dick checks on all athletes or some goofy crap like that They could try to pivot but the message would have been heard only by the MAGA base. There are a couple of no brainer topics and this is one of them. Taking the easy wins away from MAGA is something that should always be done.
February 26, 2025Feb 26 9 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: They simply would have kept making broader and broader bills attacking trans people until the Dems voted "no" and then made the same damn commercial Exactly. Let's not fool ourselves, they're not making good faith arguments. They never were.
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