16 hours ago, eggs said:

I think you nailed it, it will probably be a 2027 conditional pick based on production that is maybe a 5th that can be a 4th. I guess we’ll find out after the 1st.

Now, I’m worried it’s a 6th/5th - that wouldn’t be great, but shedding the cap space in future years would be fine. But a conditional 4th and the cap space would be great.

12 hours ago, just relax said:

I agree. Plus, they have to have eight edge guys just to get through TC and pre-season.

11 hours ago, just relax said:

Eight at a minimum. You don’t want to wear them out in TC and PS. Plus, Smith is still rehabbing from a torn pec so you don’t have five able bodies right now; you have four. And by the time you get to PS games you have pretty good idea of what you have. You give those guys a few reps and then put in the cannon fodder.

Really good point @T-1000 and @Diehardfan i apologize for being so myopic. I am now all for signing a vet Edge. My bad. You guys were right.

10 hours ago, eggs said:

Now, I’m worried it’s a 6th/5th - that wouldn’t be great, but shedding the cap space in future years would be fine. But a conditional 4th and the cap space would be great.

I don't view a 6th as a "mid round" pick.

On 5/30/2025 at 2:55 PM, Zee said:

I see euphoria has broken out over this trade. If Huff was so bad last year, how was Howie able to trade him for a return, and get cap space back? Is he some sort of wizard?

Yes

17 hours ago, eggs said:

Now, I’m worried it’s a 6th/5th - that wouldn’t be great, but shedding the cap space in future years would be fine. But a conditional 4th and the cap space would be great.

ANYTHING we get is more than I expected, so just getting away from his full contract cost is the blessing!

What are the cap implications of the trade… this year and next?

Surely Eagles will be asking for a 2027 draft pick, no way they want a pick in 2026, they have like 12 picks...

10 hours ago, Blazehound said:

What are the cap implications of the trade… this year and next?

I also saw this:

And this:

35 minutes ago, time2rock said:

I also saw this:

And this:

Thanks! Not a great return but better than having him on the roster as an inactive.

1 hour ago, Blazehound said:

Thanks! Not a great return but better than having him on the roster as an inactive.

I look at it this way, we bought a draft pick. l

On 5/31/2025 at 2:22 PM, mattwill said:

I don’t see this Board as a forum for competition, but rather a venue for education and an interchange of ideas. You appear to see it as the former rather than the latter.

Yeah, but then how can you tell if you're winning?

No official word of this thing being completed yet.

Credit to Howie for walking away from a mistake he made. There have been times when we didn’t give up so easily on bad choices. Howie’s ability to manipulate the cap allows him to overcome these types of mistakes.

47 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Credit to Howie for walking away from a mistake he made. There have been times when we didn’t give up so easily on bad choices. Howie’s ability to manipulate the cap allows him to overcome these types of mistakes.

That’s the mark of a great GM — owning the mistake and fixing it fast. Most guys in that chair would let ego or job insecurity drag it out, but Howie’s built different. He’s got the rare combo of job security and a recent Super Bowl ring, so he can pull the trigger without fear. Not every GM’s got that kind of runway, but that’s what sets him apart.

2 hours ago, Kz! said:

Yeah, but then how can you tell if you're winning?

It doesn’t matter whether I’m winning. What matters is whether the Eagles are winning?

Well we now know it will be a pick in 2026.

I had been wondering if it might be in 2027. Still would like to know in which round and if it is a conditional pick that could bump up a round if specific terms are met).

The 49ers currently have three 4th rd picks ( 2 compensatory) in the 2026 draft. I'm sure one of them will go to us. Since the compensatory picks haven't officially been awarded yet, that is the likely reason we don't know any specifics. I would imagine that there is a clause that would give us their actual 4th if for some reason they don't get awarded the two comp 4s. This trade will not be complete until the start of the 2026 league year. A comp 4 is not much more than an early 5. It is what it is.

IMO, this isn't the best result out of the Huff "era" --- but he just wasn't a great fit here in Fangio's scheme. A comp 4 is better than stashing him on IR like we did with Bradberry last season. I'll chalk it up as a signing "miss" for now, but once the dust settles and the pick is finalized we'll see what Howie can do with it.

35 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Well we now know it will be a pick in 2026.

I had been wondering if it might be in 2027. Still would like to know in which round and if it is a conditional pick that could bump up a round if specific terms are met).

2 hours ago, brkmsn said:

The 49ers currently have three 4th rd picks ( 2 compensatory) in the 2026 draft. I'm sure one of them will go to us. Since the compensatory picks haven't officially been awarded yet, that is the likely reason we don't know any specifics. I would imagine that there is a clause that would give us their actual 4th if for some reason they don't get awarded the two comp 4s. This trade will not be complete until the start of the 2026 league year. A comp 4 is not much more than an early 5. It is what it is.

IMO, this isn't the best result out of the Huff "era" --- but he just wasn't a great fit here in Fangio's scheme. A comp 4 is better than stashing him on IR like we did with Bradberry last season. I'll chalk it up as a signing "miss" for now, but once the dust settles and the pick is finalized we'll see what Howie can do with it.

A 4th round comp and some salary relief in future years seems great to me. We can trade that pick for a better 4th in 2027 and get a solid prospect.

If Howie gets a 4th round pick along with the cap relief for Huff he deserves a medal. He got himself in this mess with a bad signing, but to be able to get out of it one year later and possibly get a 4th round pick out of it would be great work. Hell even a 5th would be stellar.

6 hours ago, iladelphxx said:

Jesus we are absolutely loaded with picks for next year's draft! The usual 1 pick on day 1 but then 4 picks on day 2 (1 x 2nd, 3 x 3rds) and 7 picks in the FIRST HALF of day 3 (2 x 4ths and 5 x 5ths ... one of those potentially bumping up to a 4th). Have to believe Howie is going to be wheeling and dealing some of them.

The Huff signing certainly was a bust for us. Howie usually likes to sign/draft players based on the philosophy of their coaches' schemes. Howie signed Huff about a month and a half after bringing in Fangio...maybe that just wasn't enough time for them to get on the same page as far as player acquisition.

Good on Fangio for not really playing Huff even though he was getting paid big money. And good on Howie for taking the obvious L and moving on quickly.

Schemes and player fits definitely matter.

26 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

The Huff signing certainly was a bust for us. Howie usually likes to sign/draft players based on the philosophy of their coaches' schemes. Howie signed Huff about a month and a half after bringing in Fangio...maybe that just wasn't enough time for them to get on the same page as far as player acquisition.

Good on Fangio for not really playing Huff even though he was getting paid big money. And good on Howie for taking the obvious L and moving on quickly.

Schemes and player fits definitely matter.

Completely agree on all that. Hopefully Howie and Fangio are in lockstep with each other now. Hoping the Campbell and Mukuba picks were at Vic's request.

22 hours ago, Zee said:

That’s the mark of a great GM — owning the mistake and fixing it fast. Most guys in that chair would let ego or job insecurity drag it out, but Howie’s built different. He’s got the rare combo of job security and a recent Super Bowl ring, so he can pull the trigger without fear. Not every GM’s got that kind of runway, but that’s what sets him apart.

It’s also a credit to this owner and his willingness to put his money where his mouth is by paying people upfront to do whatever it takes to win. That’s why the rest of these owners hate the Eagles, because they’re not willing to pony the cash up.

Do we know the details of the conditional pick? Supposedly it becomes a 4th based on "playing time” but what is the language?