1 minute ago, Lambo said:

Reports he was a Fuentes fan, and really far right.

There are reports saying quite the opposite.

10 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

Facts hurt you? I would say someone who values someone's life is superior to people who don't. But hey yall are a bunch of fruit loops so you do you

Stopped reading at the word facts. You obviously do not know or can comprehend what the word means. I am really sorry that this guy was murdered and that you are upset about it. K fruit loop? Try to take a breath and calm down.

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Listen Ace, the closest anyone in here came was ToastL saying "he got what was coming to him". Toast is a straight conservative never Trumper. Also, I'm not a liberal. You don't seem to realize you're debating with mainly moderate independents and conservative never Trumpers in here. There are only a handful of actual lefties.

Toast went further than that, doc.

38 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

You are wrong and might want to dig a bit more.

... or you could enlighten me if I'm missing something? the engravings could be any combination of meme, gaming, and anti-fascist by way of WWII references.

I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm saying I would be careful going too far out on a ledge in that direction before we get more information.

there were discord chats that are going to become public record I imagine. that will be enlightening.

1 minute ago, BBE said:

Toast went further than that, doc.

Toast was pretty critical toward Kirk for sure. Toast is also anything but a liberal.

34 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

Have I said any of that or did you just make that up...? I swear your ability to actually think is completely gone. All of you. You let whoever feeds you your information think for you. The exact same. Just clones of each other. This entire place is toxic and you all don't see that nor care how vile you are. Worth less than the dog crap I stepped on this morning.

This is rich coming a guy a who admitted to listening to hours and hours of Charlie Kirk.

5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

... or you could enlighten me if I'm missing something? the engravings could be any combination of meme, gaming, and anti-fascist by way of WWII references.

I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm saying I would be careful going too far out on a ledge in that direction before we get more information.

there were discord chats that are going to become public record I imagine. that will be enlightening.

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

Toast was pretty critical toward Kirk for sure. Toast is also anything but a liberal.

I am not making a claim on his politics. The core issue is that as repugnant as Kirk was at times, he was very clear on conversations over violence (apart from the Paul Pelosi bail comment). Now this happens and Trump, Miller, Loomer, and the others we don't know about will leverage this into even more atrocious acts. They will push, someone will resist, and everything unravels.

38 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

Have I said any of that or did you just make that up...? I swear your ability to actually think is completely gone. All of you. You let whoever feeds you your information think for you. The exact same. Just clones of each other. This entire place is toxic and you all don't see that nor care how vile you are. Worth less than the dog crap I stepped on this morning.

Whatever you do, please don't leave honey, we've only just begun!

2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

This is all speculation to me. It doesn't reconcile with the report that he called Kirk full of hate to a family member.

Unless the investigation misread that conversation and subsequently misreported it to the press I don't know how it fits that a groyper would call Kirk full of hate.

Some groypers have had issues with Kirk in the past, but it would be because Kirk doesn't hate the right groups enough.

17 minutes ago, BBE said:

Just stop. The kid had issues that obviously doesn't fit neatly into one side or another.

The one clear cogent point was this guy needed mental

You were saying. Rainbow

I was today years old when I first learned that groyper was a word. And I feel pretty good about that.

1 minute ago, BBE said:

I am not making a claim on his politics. The core issue is that as repugnant as Kirk was at times, he was very clear on conversations over violence (apart from the Paul Pelosi bail comment). Now this happens and Trump, Miller, Loomer, and the others we don't know about will leverage this into even more atrocious acts. They will push, someone will resist, and everything unravels.

Yes, agreed. The rhetoric from the leadership on the right has been very divisive and pretty clear. Bannon called Kirk "a casualty of war" as an example and we all know what Trump has said.

The poster I replied to (and some others) pushed this narrative that a bunch of liberal loons in here have been celebrating Kirk's death. That simply isn't true. Toast was the only one you can point at and also there are very few liberals in here these days.

4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

This is all speculation to me. It doesn't reconcile with the report that he called Kirk full of hate to a family member.

Unless the investigation misread that conversation and subsequently misreported it to the press I don't know how it fits that a groyper would call Kirk full of hate.

Some groypers have had issues with Kirk in the past, but it would be because Kirk doesn't hate the right groups enough.

Cool now think like a 22 year old that is terminally online.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

I am definitely trusting the dwarf from Singapore

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

I was today years old when I first learned that groyper was a word. And I feel pretty good about that.

The real question is, how is it pronounced?

Grouper like the fish?

Just now, rambo said:

The real question is, how is it pronounced?

Grouper like the fish?

Idk but that’s what my phone auto corrected it to.

24 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I was reading more about it and i guess there's actually two versions. The og one was about working in the fields or something, and likely started in the late 1800's. The newer one (post ww2) does have more politically relevant lyrics in the verses. Chorus/refrain is the same though.

I knew it from Money Heist when I watched it a few years ago. They definitely used it in a more politically/resistance meaning.

3 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

I was today years old when I first learned that groyper was a word. And I feel pretty good about that.

Just Asked my 17 year old son and he had zero idea. I bought up pepe and he thought I was talking about the soccer player, Pepe who played for Real Madrid

2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

I am definitely trusting the dwarf from Singapore

Not even Fox is making those claims

@Diehardfan

"Groyper" sounds like a weird kink group, not a political movement. Terrible name.

1 minute ago, mr_hunt said:

Idk but that’s what my phone auto corrected it to.

That must be it then. Alright CVON, we can wrap this thread up. Mystery has been solved. He identified as conservative antifa fish.

4 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Just Asked my 17 year old son and he had zero idea. I bought up pepe and he thought I was talking about the soccer player, Pepe who played for Real Madrid

pretty good