7 hours ago, It Hurts said:

Free speech and hate speech are a bit different. Nice to see you have no problem with it though. Typical loony liberal

This is peak hypocrisy right here. JFC we are Fed.

The Miller/Vance words on the Charlie Kirk podcast are horrifying. The job of any administration, be they Repub or Dem, in a time of hostility is to steady the ship and bring about a state of calm. The WH is doing the exact opposite and instead adding fuel and fanning the fires.

We are most certainly entering a dark period and there is most certainly going to be more violence.

9 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Because the left and their rhetoric on a national level put a political figure in the ground.

Alright I'm ready. It took me a while, I had logged out since I didn't think this was worth my time, but I have one little gift for people here.

8 hours ago, lynched1 said:

Sucks to be you, all repressed and ****.

This is for you too.

Earlier I was asked to find demonstrate my position that the right actually does more politically motivated killings. Well, let me tell you, there was a lot to find if you dig deep enough. Here is a report from 2020, Trump's DOHS, for DVE's, a term used as a general round up term for Domestic Violent Extremism. WSE stands for White Supremacist Extremists, I wonder what side that could be...

Not so fun fact, as you can see by the abhorrent bar below, WSE's have actually caused more (orange bar is incidents, blue bar is deaths) than all other types combined.

But that's not all...

There's also a report from 2021 listed on congress.gov that talks about a similar subject. But since you're also not reading all that, feel free to take this equally abhorrent snippet.

I said it before but I was ignored, so I'll say it again with data. I'm pretty sure the right is and has been the party of political violence. Naturally I want all of it to stop, but this idea that such a concept has been created by the left is completely wrong, and clear evidence of people's inability to look for data, as well as the American Right's increased ability and investment of resources into acquiring resources to control the narrative among anyone who is even tangential to their base.

So I think maybe the right should worry about their own rhetoric just as much if not more than their political adversaries'.

2 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

It is the response that is the bigger issue here and Gutfeld made it very clear "we do not care". Just like you. That is the FAR bigger problem here.

Not being as important isn't not caring. It's just a fact of life. She isn’t.

28 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

The Miller/Vance words on the Charlie Kirk podcast are horrifying. The job of any administration, be they Repub or Dem, in a time of hostility is to steady the ship and bring about a state of calm. The WH is doing the exact opposite and instead adding fuel and fanning the fires.

We are most certainly entering a dark period and there is most certainly going to be more violence.

Idk what they said, but I’m sure it’s the same kind of hostility that their leader has been spouting ever since he came down that escalator.

There have always been divisions in the country between left or right agendas/policies. There’s been violence, hypocrisy and all the things people complain about from both ends of the spectrum. The difference from the past to now is that we somehow found some sort of medium that brought down the temperature. Republicans and Democrats were able to work through their differences.

It’s not that way anymore. The US is known for two parties, but actually we have three now. The Dems, the centrist Repubs and then there is the extreme MAGA with their cult leader. He’s the cancer that fuels the growth of the divide. It’s his DNA and his lust for autocracy that has opened the can of worms.

The hate needs to stop. It’s fine to have discourse and disagreements. No one is always right or wrong. The *truth lies somewhere in the middle and the county is drifting way too far to the extreme IMO.✌️

6 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Alright I'm ready. It took me a while, I had logged out since I didn't think this was worth my time, but I have one little gift for people here.

This is for you too.

Earlier I was asked to find demonstrate my position that the right actually does more politically motivated killings. Well, let me tell you, there was a lot to find if you dig deep enough. Here is a report from 2020, Trump's DOHS, for DVE's, a term used as a general round up term for Domestic Violent Extremism. WSE stands for White Supremacist Extremists, I wonder what side that could be...

Not so fun fact, as you can see by the abhorrent bar below, WSE's have actually caused more (orange bar is incidents, blue bar is deaths) than all other types combined.

But that's not all...

There's also a report from 2021 listed on congress.gov that talks about a similar subject. But since you're also not reading all that, feel free to take this equally abhorrent snippet.

I said it before but I was ignored, so I'll say it again with data. I'm pretty sure the right is and has been the party of political violence. Naturally I want all of it to stop, but this idea that such a concept has been created by the left is completely wrong, and clear evidence of people's inability to look for data, as well as the American Right's increased ability and investment of resources into acquiring resources to control the narrative among anyone who is even tangential to their base.

So I think maybe the right should worry about their own rhetoric just as much if not more than their political adversaries'.

Honestly, that was so poorly written I only made it a few sentences. Talk about wasted time.

10 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Not being as important isn't not caring. It's just a fact of life. She isn’t.

Right, so that political violence doesn't really count. It's still mostly the left that is violent.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Honestly, that was so poorly written I only made it a few sentences. Talk about wasted time.

I'll be nice and give you a TL;DR to my TL;DR.

I posted two reports that compiled data on violence caused by political extremism, one by the Trump DoHS, and the other from the US congress website. Both of them concur that the majority of political violence in their time periods evaluated comes from right-wing origins.

There are pictures I posted as excerpts because people won't read the reports, but they're right there to be read if anyone wants to approach that. Then I made my resolving point by saying that I was already pretty sure the right is the real party of political violence, and that maybe rather than insisting the American left is the one with the problematic rhetoric, they should examine their own equally well.

PS: I also said that the important thing is that all of it is stopped.

Better?

3 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Right, so that political violence doesn't really count. It's still mostly the left that is violent.

She isn’t the reverse UNO card some want her to be as they try to exploit her tragedy to keep attention off the rhetoric of the left causing this.

7 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

I'll be nice and give you a TL;DR to my TL;DR.

I posted two reports that compiled data on violence caused by political extremism, one by the Trump DoHS, and the other from the US congress website. Both of them concur that the majority of political violence in their time periods evaluated comes from right-wing origins.

There are pictures I posted as excerpts because people won't read the reports, but they're right there to be read if anyone wants to approach that. Then I made my resolving point by saying that I was already pretty sure the right is the real party of political violence, and that maybe rather than insisting the American left is the one with the problematic rhetoric, they should examine their own equally well.

PS: I also said that the important thing is that all of it is stopped.

Better?

Yeah I stopped at whatever that first line is

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

She isn’t the reverse UNO card some want her to be as they try to exploit her tragedy to keep attention off the rhetoric of the left causing this.

Sure she is. It pretty much kills the argument that the violence is only coming from one side. Sorry bud, it's not.

Just now, Paul852 said:

Sure she is. It pretty much kills the argument that the violence is only coming from one side. Sorry bud, it's not.

No but it's cute you really really want it to be.

2 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Sure she is. It pretty much kills the argument that the violence is only coming from one side. Sorry bud, it's not.

I mean I literally posted reports, so if you want proof it is in fact not coming from the American Left primarily...

Just now, AmericanEagle77 said:

I mean I literally posted reports, so if you want proof it is in fact not coming from the American Left primarily...

Just now, AmericanEagle77 said:

I mean I literally posted reports, so if you want proof it is in fact not coming from the American Left primarily...

facts hurt their brains. they’d rather rant incoherently.

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

No but it's cute you really really want it to be.

I don't want violence at all. Nice try.

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

The truth is a cartoon?

3 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

facts hurt their brains. they’d rather rant incoherently.

I mean that might be a good thing, because I was already preparing the Ben Shapiro counter.

2 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

The truth is a cartoon?

Yeah, it's that simple

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

Yeah, it's that simple

For simple people, sure.

5 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Let's try just the picture.

On violent extremism, so that'd include stuff like political extremism based killings. Would you care to counter with data rather than with memes, or is your argument just the vibes?

Just now, Paul852 said:

For simple people, sure.

Well I'm glad we got this in before my flight 😃

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Well I'm glad we got this in before my flight 😃

Once again, this is not an airport. You do not need to announce your departure.

49 minutes ago, Frankfurteagle89 said:

Idk what they said, but I’m sure it’s the same kind of hostility that their leader has been spouting ever since he came down that escalator.

There have always been divisions in the country between left or right agendas/policies. There’s been violence, hypocrisy and all the things people complain about from both ends of the spectrum. The difference from the past to now is that we somehow found some sort of medium that brought down the temperature. Republicans and Democrats were able to work through their differences.

It’s not that way anymore. The US is known for two parties, but actually we have three now. The Dems, the centrist Repubs and then there is the extreme MAGA with their cult leader. He’s the cancer that fuels the growth of the divide. It’s his DNA and his lust for autocracy that has opened the can of worms.

The hate needs to stop. It’s fine to have discourse and disagreements. No one is always right or wrong. The *truth lies somewhere in the middle and the county is drifting way too far to the extreme IMO.✌️

Give a listen. It is actually pretty important. Vance tells people to report anyone they see saying anything negative about Kirk so that those violators are shamed and lose their jobs. Miller basically says he is going to debank anyone in the evil left infrastructure and jail any of them who commit any crime. Real structural political violence.

57 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Not being as important isn't not caring. It's just a fact of life. She isn’t.

Ahh so you mean to say political violence is perfectly acceptable as long as it isn’t done against someone who you determine to be important. Did I get that right?