11 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

So you have your feelings and speculations. I came with receipts about Waltz and his mental illness and his statements. Again, it sucks to lose a talking point because you really really want to keep it.

Check out the interview with his roommate and accept this loss.

26 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

You'd have to be a real dunce to argue this wasn't a politically motivated attack from a conservative.

Does him being historically retarded qualify as being a real dunce?

9 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Check out the interview with his roommate and accept this loss.

Check out the interview with him and take the loss. Read the Waltz letter and take the loss. Look at the focus of the investigation being on his writings and delusional letters and wanting to help Waltz and take the loss. But you won't. You want your BS talking point more.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

No it wasn't. You all want to label him as something he wasn't because you haven't done the homework or you support fringe ideas even Democrats didn't have in the 90s.

Also, he was moderate even by those who debated him from the other side. If you think that about him then we'll never find common ground on anything, which is fine. People who debated him said he was kind. That isn't something you say about someone throwing the horrible rhetoric you suggest.

I must admit you are a pretty good troll. Dedicated, consistently ridiculous, good at pushing buttons, etc.

3 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

So funny the MAGA Ftards resort to name calling Moderates and Never Trumper conservatives by calling them liberal loons. The height of "I have no actual argument”.

I'm not the biggest fan of TEW, but he's the only Trumper that will go back and forth on points with people. He's wrong, but he at least attempts to make an argument. The rest just spam Twitter posts and use the same tired catch phrases over and over again without attempting to counter anyone's points or construct an actual argument.

Using the full weight of the federal government to compel a private company to print posters. Levels of free speech and conservativing the likes of which we've never seen!

Just now, DrPhilly said:

I must admit you are a pretty good troll. Dedicated, consistently ridiculous, good at pushing buttons, etc.

Receipts from Grok

1. Delusional Writings and Letters

   • Source: The Washington Post (July 15, 2025) - Alleged Minnesota shooter confessed to killings in letter to FBI director

     • Details: Boelter allegedly wrote a handwritten letter found in his getaway car, addressed to the FBI director, claiming he was "approached" by Governor Tim Walz and ordered to kill Senators Amy Klobuchar and Tina Smith to pave the way for Walz’s senatorial ambitions. The letter’s content, including references to a conspiracy involving Walz, reflects a paranoid delusion rather than a rational political motive.

     • Relevance: This aligns with symptoms of schizophrenia or severe delusional disorder, where individuals construct elaborate, unfounded narratives. The lack of evidence supporting Walz’s involvement further underscores Boelter’s mental instability.

2. Mental Health Observations by Associates

   • Source: NPR (June 16, 2025) - Vance Boelter captured, charged in shooting of Minnesota lawmakers

     • Details: A friend, David Carlson, described Boelter’s claims of a security career as "fantasy," noting he had worked in food service, not law enforcement or military roles. This discrepancy suggests a detachment from reality, a common trait in untreated mental health conditions.

     • Relevance: The Journal of Forensic Psychiatry (2023, Vol. 34, Issue 3) - Lone-Actor Violence and Mental Health (paywalled, but cited in summaries) reports that 68% of lone-actor violence cases involve untreated mental illness, supporting the likelihood that Boelter’s actions stemmed from psychosis rather than ideology.

3. Behavioral Indicators During the Manhunt

   • Source: AP News (June 17, 2025) - 40 hours of violence and fear as gunman stalks Minnesota politicians

     • Details: Boelter’s actions—disguising himself with a silicone mask, using a police-style SUV with flashing lights, and fleeing into the woods after the shootings—indicate erratic, theatrical behavior. His purchase of an e-bike and withdrawal of $2,200 in a cowboy hat (captured on bank footage) further suggest disorganized thinking.

     • Relevance: These actions are consistent with a psychotic break, where individuals act on internal fantasies rather than a structured political agenda.

Evidence Supporting Delusional Support for Tim Walz

1. Letter Implying Walz’s Influence

   • Source: The Washington Post (July 15, 2025) - Alleged Minnesota shooter confessed to killings in letter to FBI director

     • Details: The letter explicitly states that Walz "wanted to be senator" and had ordered the killings. This delusional narrative positions Boelter as acting in Walz’s interest, not against him, despite targeting Democratic lawmakers.

     • Relevance: This contradicts a conservative motive, as Walz is a prominent Democrat. Boelter’s perceived allegiance to Walz, however misguided, suggests his actions were framed around supporting a Democratic figure, not opposing one.

2. Appointment by Walz

   • Source: X Post by

     @akafaceUS

     (September 15, 2025) - Thread 0, Post 1967682138083561940

     • Details: Boelter was appointed to the Governor’s Workforce Development Board by Tim Walz from 2019 to 2023, indicating a professional connection to Walz’s administration. This is corroborated by X users like

       @dfoxofoleput

       and

       @Gigiluvs2020

       , who note his Democratic ties.

     • Relevance: This appointment undermines the narrative of a conservative extremist, as it aligns him with Walz’s governance, and his delusional letter could be an extension of this relationship twisted by mental illness.

3. Lack of Conservative Indicators in Motive

   • Source: New York Post (July 12, 2025) - Accused Minnesota assassin hints at motive during exclusive jailhouse interview

     • Details: Boelter stated his actions were not motivated by "Trump stuff or pro-life" issues, which are common conservative touchstones. Instead, he alluded to personal grievances and delusions.

     • Relevance: This dismissal of conservative themes, combined with his Walz-related delusions, points to a motive rooted in his mental state rather than a right-wing ideology.

Countering the Conservative Motive Narrative

• Past Republican Registration: The Guardian (September 11, 2025) - Utah Republican senator faces backlash over post condemning Kirk’s killing notes Boelter was registered as a Republican in Oklahoma in 2004. However, this is a 21-year-old data point, and his recent Walz appointment suggests a shift or lack of current ideological commitment.

• X Misinformation: Posts like

  @DisavowTrump20

  ’s (September 15, 2025) and

  @EdKrassen

  ’s (September 15, 2025) label Boelter a "right-wing extremist" or "Trump voter," but these are unsupported by official sources and countered by the trending topic debunking Mike Nellis’s claims (September 15, 2025).

• "No Kings" Flyers: While

  @DefiyantlyFree

  and

  @Humanguerrilla

  mention these flyers, the AP News (June 2025) describes the "No Kings" movement as anti-authoritarian but not exclusively conservative. Without official confirmation linking them to a motive, they are secondary to his delusional writings.

ConclusionThe evidence strongly supports that Boelter’s actions were driven by untreated mental illness, evidenced by his delusional letters, erratic behavior, and lack of a coherent ideological motive, rather than conservatism. His perceived support for Tim Walz, as expressed in the letter, further distances his actions from a right-wing agenda, aligning them with a psychotic narrative tied to a Democratic figure.

6 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

you think this is a good thing?

Just now, Alpha_TATEr said:

you think this is a good thing?

Firing her? Absolutely.

3 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Take some Midol you need it today

Thank you for proving the point I just made. Your timing was perfect!

25 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Oh yeah, look at these people on the right

Funny you're sourcing Benny Johnson

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Firing her? Absolutely.

whew, ok, i got worried you were completely lost for a second.

ok, carry on.

19 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Trump obviously wants to create a loophole to circumvent free speech and go after opponents.

He's been trying to do that since 2016

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

This aligns with symptoms of schizophrenia or severe delusional disorder, where individuals construct elaborate, unfounded narratives.

This basically describes every Trump voter in CVON

Just now, Alpha_TATEr said:

whew, ok, i got worried you were completely lost for a second.

ok, carry on.

This is the 4th or 5th person I said he should fire or force to resign in the admin.

3 hours ago, paco said:

Charlie Kirk is alive.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

This is the 4th or 5th person I said he should fire or force to resign in the admin.

i mean she's so completely wrong on everything she said in that quote.

when do you start to question the leadership when they won't get rid of these people?

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

This aligns with symptoms of schizophrenia or severe delusional disorder, where individuals construct elaborate, unfounded narratives.

This basically describes every Trump voter in CVON

Just now, Diehardfan said:

This is the 4th or 5th person I said he should fire or force to resign in the admin.

Imagine how retarded you have to be to think she went rogue and made this decision of her own volition rather than at Trump's request. Actually, I don't need to imagine, it's on full display in here every single day.

6 minutes ago, Gannan said:

I'm not the biggest fan of TEW, but he's the only Trumper that will go back and forth on points with people. He's wrong, but he at least attempts to make an argument. The rest just spam Twitter posts and use the same tired catch phrases over and over again without attempting to counter anyone's points or construct an actual argument.

Yep, TEW has always been willing to go toe to toe in real discussions trying to use logical arguments to make his point. Sometimes he is way more effective than other times. Also, he knows when he's arguing with an actual liberal and when he's arguing with a Never Trumper or a Moderate.

2 hours ago, toolg said:

This crap disguised as "news" is why we are divided as a nation.

"This also is the mainstream left and I have data to back that up" continues to spout off nonsense that has zero to do with the mainstream left.

Facts are facts... none of these recent shooters were registered democrats. Not one.

1 minute ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

i mean she's so completely wrong on everything she said in that quote.

when do you start to question the leadership when they won't get rid of these people?

He hires the best people

Except when he doesn't

Just now, Alpha_TATEr said:

i mean she's so completely wrong on everything she said in that quote.

when do you start to question the leadership when they won't get rid of these people?

She should be fired.

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

She should be fired.

well, have any of the 4 to 5 people you mentioned, been fired?

13 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Receipts from Grok

I wasn't thinking about that topic.