9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t know how much it would or wouldn’t change. That said I’d talk to daboll simply cause he has seen the eagles often so he knows them well and he can give you an outside perspective of the offense that maybe inside organization can’t see. maybe that helps and maybe it doesn’t, but it’s at least worth picking his brain about. Also if you do move on from KP this offseason (likely at this point), get a free interview early with how he might want to run things with the offense and how he did some things with hurts at bama.

Yea, I agree with that. It doesn't hurt to pick someones brain or bring in a consultant. I just don't think there would be sweeping changes to the offense. If they make too many changes, it's basically 2023 again just the offense will collapse.

The funniest part about the AJ Brown tweets is the one where he's showing his stat line from him playing Madden and DeVonta Smith has 0 targets lol

17 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/eagles/2025/11/12/aj-brown-frustrations-madden-livestream-jankyrondo/87231369007/

This hasn’t made its rounds here yet??

We all agree with AJ.

22 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

He doesn't mention Sirianni and the offense once. It's just disrepectful.

11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The funniest part about the AJ Brown tweets is the one where he's showing his stat line from him playing Madden and DeVonta Smith has 0 targets lol

22 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Would be hilarious if that was the only statement he’d made. Sorry, feeling diabolical right now 😅

24 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Being cautious by not having the guy with the TBI practice?

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I can't wait until they hire Beilichick and Lombardi this offseason.

8 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

He doesn't mention Sirianni and the offense once. It's just disrepectful.

"Nick’s done an unbelievable job. And coach Fangio…”

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Well, they probably wouldn't have much of a shot at the number 1 or 2 seed if they lose.

Couldn't have put it any better than Zach

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Couldn't have put it any better than Zach

Constant, non-stop, almost diabolical questions from Philly media about AJ Brown is the real distraction. Get the heck over it already.

47 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t know how much it would or wouldn’t change. That said I’d talk to daboll simply cause he has seen the eagles often so he knows them well and he can give you an outside perspective of the offense that maybe inside organization can’t see. maybe that helps and maybe it doesn’t, but it’s at least worth picking his brain about. Also if you do move on from KP this offseason (likely at this point), get a free interview early with how he might want to run things with the offense and how he did some things with hurts at bama.

And it doesn't mean changing the playbook. It can be outside perspective looking at the film and what's worked and what hasn't. They've already used more under center and Fred Johnson as 6th O lineman, which shows they're willing to change things up. An outside voice consultant could help nudge some more positive decisions, help analyze what they have in the playbook to utilize more, and which to abandon or use sparingly, or just in the right situations. It could also bring perspective of preparing for each week's defense based on his experience of playing against those teams.

Daboll helped the Bills become the 2nd and 3rd ranked offenses in his last 2 years there. For his sake it would be a positive move to go to a winning organization and regroup for his next move.

Another aspect: Daboll has experience going against the Chiefs and might like the opportunity to help the Eagles beat them, should both teams make the SB again.

3 hours ago, NOTW said:

Myself and several others have posted many times about AJ's mental health. The team is aware. Lane has his own struggles he's been open about. Dom went to support Lane the time he left for Oklahoma years ago. I would hope the Eagles are a team that makes players feel supported.

Oh i meant the fans

6 hours ago, T-1000 said:

Definitely. People should really be checking on the guy who has made 100+ million in his career, won a SB, and is currently going through such a hard time not getting enough targets. When I look at all of the people struggling to make ends meet, living paycheck to paycheck, just trying to provide for their families, my heart bleeds for AJ's lack of targets and his hissy fits over it on social media from his mansion are clearly a cry for help.

You have obviously never dealt with what mental health issues do to people. They dont care how much money you have or what car you drive or the size of your house. They arent logical. They are rooted in fear and/or sadness for any number of reasons

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7 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Well, they probably wouldn't have much of a shot at the number 1 or 2 seed if they lose.

the 2 is probably still in play. They still play the rams and if they’d win beaten them and Tampa. Also have GB left. That tie could benefit them winning the division.

6 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

Anyone in here like the black helmets? I most certainly do not.

No sir i dont like it

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Disagree with the bolded. Bringing in a consultant now at this point really wouldn't change much. The time to bring in new concepts and ideas is the offseason. The players need to execute better with what they have. It's not a great position but it is what it is. The only other button Nick has to push is taking back play calling which likely doesn't result in much besides maybe a one game boost.

Why over the next 8 weeks couldn't they work in new concepts? I'm not saying overwhelm them or change the playbook entirely but if Darth Vader could switch his defense from 3-4 to 4-3 (or reverse) during the BYE before the SB in 04 why wouldn't a new offensive mind be able to implement a few things during that time?

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

True. However the issue is if we get that OC, he’s leaving the next year to become a HC. I think an interesting discussion is the offense living more on howie’s ability to compile enough talent to eventually overwhelm teams and not maximizing the talent

This is fallacious, just stop hiring young guys. Everyone thinks they have to get the young hires, get a guy who's shown maybe they're not the best head coach, or is not likely to be a high end head coaching candidate.

4 minutes ago, NOTW said:

And it doesn't mean changing the playbook. It can be outside perspective looking at the film and what's worked and what hasn't. They've already used more under center and Fred Johnson as 6th O lineman, which shows they're willing to change things up. An outside voice consultant could help nudge some more positive decisions, help analyze what they have in the playbook to utilize more, and which to abandon or use sparingly, or just in the right situations. It could also bring perspective of preparing for each week's defense based on his experience of playing against those teams.

Daboll helped the Bills become the 2nd and 3rd ranked offenses in his last 2 years there. For his sake it would be a positive move to go to a winning organization and regroup for his next move.

Another aspect: Daboll has experience going against the Chiefs and might like the opportunity to help the Eagles beat them, should both teams make the SB again.

Also he’s worked with hurts before at bama. Add on he might be a **** head coach but he has done really good work with offenses and QBs in the past. Josh Allen came out of Wyoming with a big arm and less than stellar accuracy. After a couple years, he helped develop Allen into what we’ve seen today. Before this season, daboll was the only one to be able to Maximize Daniel jones even if for one year. Then he identified Dart for the giants based off reports. I don’t love running dart like he did but dart was playing at a really good level considering their OL and weapons. So he’s not some incompetent moron, just a bad head coach

Just now, AmericanEagle77 said:

This is fallacious, just stop hiring young guys. Everyone thinks they have to get the young hires, get a guy who's shown maybe they're not the best head coach, or is not likely to be a high end head coaching candidate.

What older offensive coach that’s coveted and innovative that are you hiring as OC for the foreseeable future? Reich? McCarthy? Frankly McCarthy probably believes he should be an HC again. Add on hire daboll and he does well, I’m guessing eventually he gets a HC interview. If you are an offensive coach and you maximize an offense where it’s been clunky in the past and stabilize it then I’m guessing you are getting a HC job or interviewing for them.

There’s more DC like Spags and fangio who are willing to do that than offensive coaches. Heck even Spags was mentioned with the giants opening

How many teams have older OCs that are sticking around and just content with being OC and are continuously highly successful? I’m curious cause i don’t have this answer. I’m assuming it’s not a high percentage. I know monken, Greg Roman and McDaniels. (Went through it there’s 5 OCs that are 50+ years old out of 32 teams. 2 of them have been mentioned for HC jobs last year or will be this year). That means 27 of 32 teams have OC younger than 50. And going through it a ton that fall 38-46. Heck McDaniels (49) wants to be an HC again. He nearly got the job here so older guys aren’t necessarily bypassing HC gigs

10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

What older offensive coach that’s coveted and innovative that are you hiring as OC for the foreseeable future? Reich? McCarthy? Frankly McCarthy probably believes he should be an HC again. Add on hire daboll and he does well, I’m guessing eventually he gets a HC interview. If you are an offensive coach and you maximize an offense where it’s been clunky in the past and stabilize it then I’m guessing you are getting a HC job or interviewing for them.

There’s more DC like Spags and fangio who are willing to do that than offensive coaches. Heck even Spags was mentioned with the giants opening

How many teams have older OCs that are sticking around and just content with being OC and are continuously highly successful? I’m curious cause i don’t have this answer. I’m assuming it’s not a high percentage

You don't really need coveted and innovative, you really just need fit. I think people have the wrong idea. Take a look at the Ravens offensive ranks for a bit, on a site like Pro Football Reference. You'll notice that in a lot of recent seasons they hover around top 10 with a few different offensive coordinators, including one we know pretty well.

I've said it before but I think if you want to continue with Hurts' style (I don't, but some people do), a guy like Darrel Bevell makes a lot of sense. 55 so older than a lot of HC hires these days which trend high 30's low 40's, worked with Russell Wilson in Seattle, coached in the NFL for 22 years, that kind of thing. Origin is Marshawn Lynch era Seahawks with efficient pass offense, strong running game, and the obviously secondary strong Legion of Boom. Sound familiar?

I think the reason is because less and less older OCs are being hired period, because teams are trying to get young mainstays at head coach. But you can use that to your advantage, the same way you can with Fangio.

He's not wrong.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Kudos to the Giants for (finally) firing Daboll mid-season (even though should have been done in off-season).

His behaviour on the sidelines had became toxic - he yelled at his medical staff the week prior when they were checking up on Dart and I wonder if that played a role in him not getting evaluated last week when he took another big knock. Putting your young franchise QB at risk like that should be fireable on the spot.