13 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Nick is too much of a "player's coach" to actually sit the guys down and tell them they're not playing because theyre too injured and they suck. 

He's got some wistful notion about being super tough and just playing through it when in reality half of our OL can't even move right now.  The inside of our OL is an absolute sieve

And reminder, that players coach is exactly what the FO tried to get after Chip Kelly. I'm not saying that by itself is bad, but it's definitely food for thought. Too much of a good thing is usually bad, we should be about 20% more discipline oriented, and things would probably go a lot better.

2 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Dak has given this team fits for a while now, especially when playing at their spot. He elevates his play in almost every matchup and carves them. He’s not the same quarterback that most view him as in those games. It’s probably why I think he’s better than he gets credit for because there’s just too much scarring there for me watching him go on runs where he completes 80% of his passes.

He wasn't even that good. He threw a pick in the end zone, couldn't score on three passes from the 2 yard line, and threw a ball directly to Baun which probably would have ended the game

Only when our D was completely worn out and couldn't get a pass rush at all was he effective.

So when I say this I am speaking half analytically and half reactionary...

But the most concerning thing about the offense isn't how bad they are, it's how bad they are compounded by how much they are all paid. This is where Howie's stomach has to be turning into knots. With the exception of Mailata (who isn't even having a good year anyway) and Devonta Smith, I would gladly shave multiple years off the contract of every single player on offense simply to avoid their cap hit and not be tied to them.

On defense, we are worried about keeping players and finding ways to pay them. On offense...literally the whole offense, the offseason should be spent finding ways to get out of paying them. Howie's real job this offseason will be finding creative ways to move money from this awful offense over towards preserving the defense.

1 hour ago, Parrot Head said:

How the F did this coaching staff manage to win a Super Bowl lol

It wasn't exactly THIS coaching staff. And they also got career years from Barkley, Becton, Dickerson, and Jurgens. Lane was still here and nearly 100% healthy and Mailata was a way better version of himself. That's how.

36 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I know hindsight is 20/20, but was giving Saquon Barkley a new contract after 1 season a careless move? Howie nickeled and dimed to not keep important pieces like Becton and Rodgers and paid a 28 year old RB who JUST got paid the year prior. I know the OL is half the issue this year, but was Saquon unhappy with the deal he signed? It's great to reward players for achievements, but he's such a team guy I think he would have understood if other guys got paid.

100% uncharacteristic bone headed move by Howie. You knew Saquon was going to take a large step back after the workload he received last year.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Dont want to hear short week as an excuse to not name a new play caller. They are fairly likely to lose regardless. Tough to come back from such a disaster in just a few days. Little time for fixes. No time for certain guys to heal up. Like Jackson's concussion- no chance hes back. Mukuba in a walking boot- nearly 0% chance for him to play too. OL has not recover time...

Its as good a time as any to make the change. In fact, its basically the one thing that can help next week more than anything else. As better play calling can cause an immediate improvement. Theres really nothing else they can do to provide such an immediate impact.

Finally, IF and its a big IF they win, then the opportunity to change probably passes. Another game later in the season, coming off a win, closer to chasing that 1 seed... theyre not gonna do it if they beat the Bears.

Do it now.

I get your sentiment and you are probably right. I think they somehow eek one out at home, but the Bears game is a lot like the Dallas game.

I said multiple times before the Dallas game that the offense would win or lose the game. The defense was due for a meh week against a Dallas offense that usually has success against them. Defense was neither particularly good nor bad...just fine. Against a bottom 2 defense in the NFL, the game was there for our offense to win it or lose it...and they lost it.

Likewise, the Bears have a bottom of the barrel defense and a good offense. The defensive secondary is going to struggle due to injuries. We can expect another lukewarm defensive performance...not bad, not great.

And it will be on the offense to win it. As I type out this post, that's starting to convince me they lose. Bears at home can't possibly be a loss, but any game that lines up for our offense to determine the outcome feels like it has to be a loss. I have that little confidence in them.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Yes, Seth, if we ran the ball the worst case scenario was gaining one yard and setting up a 4th and 1 tush push. Nothing could go wrong there.

Joyner was a helluva player, but he’s such a bad analyst.

He also wants the QB to throw the ball between the hashes. That's just not something we do here.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

So when I say this I am speaking half analytically and half reactionary...

But the most concerning thing about the offense isn't how bad they are, it's how bad they are compounded by how much they are all paid. This is where Howie's stomach has to be turning into knots. With the exception of Mailata (who isn't even having a good year anyway) and Devonta Smith, I would gladly shave multiple years off the contract of every single player on offense simply to avoid their cap hit and not be tied to them.

On defense, we are worried about keeping players and finding ways to pay them. On offense...literally the whole offense, the offseason should be spent finding ways to get out of paying them. Howie's real job this offseason will be finding creative ways to move money from this awful offense over towards preserving the defense.

But it's just coaching and the very second the coaching is rotated, every problem magically disappears right? And then we go to a Super Bowl again, get poached again, and we hire............the next Bill Walsh, because certainly those are hanging around after the Super Bowl!

..............

Jokes aside, yeah, not exactly wrong. Been saying it for a while now, the defense was carrying the offense, including much of last year. Some people might not like to hear that, but it's true, a lot of the problems this year resemble last year more than they should.

10 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

The day after always provides a bit of perspective. Lots to look into. Overall both Hurts and the D played pretty well though not great. Ultimately, the lack of a running game, the penalties, and the mistakes killed us. Too many to discuss.

From a long term perspective, we aren't going to win many games with a lead back getting 22 yards on 10 carries. The OL simply cannot run block. We've seen it all year and it is BY FAR the biggest problem. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like there is any hope of getting it fixed this year.

Hurts is far down on the list of players to blame because he did play a decent game, but he absolutely, 100% can NOT take that 3rd and 2 sack. We can question the play call, the routes run by the WR and the OL protection, but Hurts had outlets in Shipley and Goedert as well as a lane to take up up the middle (albeit a small one).

I can't remotely agree with any assessment that Hurts played pretty well in that game.

8 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not likely on a short week

Doesn’t just have to be a coach. Gipson should be gone. How is he still in the nfl?!

7 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

He wasn't even that good. He threw a pick in the end zone, couldn't score on three passes from the 2 yard line, and threw a ball directly to Baun which probably would have ended the game

Only when our D was completely worn out and couldn't get a pass rush at all was he effective.

Yup, the biggest pass plays were Pickens just being a damn good WR and winning battles he's expected to win, and Michael Carter taking out his own guy letting Pickens get wide open. If the DB are healthy and Carter isn't in the game, that play is most likely covered. Instead, you have a backup player in a key spot taking out his own teammate.

10 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Dont want to hear short week as an excuse to not name a new play caller. They are fairly likely to lose regardless. Tough to come back from such a disaster in just a few days. Little time for fixes. No time for certain guys to heal up. Like Jackson's concussion- no chance hes back. Mukuba in a walking boot- nearly 0% chance for him to play too. OL has not recover time...

Its as good a time as any to make the change. In fact, its basically the one thing that can help next week more than anything else. As better play calling can cause an immediate improvement. Theres really nothing else they can do to provide such an immediate impact.

Finally, IF and its a big IF they win, then the opportunity to change probably passes. Another game later in the season, coming off a win, closer to chasing that 1 seed... theyre not gonna do it if they beat the Bears.

Do it now.

Dude but if they change play callers, the new guy might get real confused and struggle to get the plays called on time.

Oh wait…

2 minutes ago, pisceschica said:

Doesn’t just have to be a coach. Gipson should be gone. How is he still in the nfl?!

He was in a sling after the game so he’s likely gone one way or another

9 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

So when I say this I am speaking half analytically and half reactionary...

But the most concerning thing about the offense isn't how bad they are, it's how bad they are compounded by how much they are all paid. This is where Howie's stomach has to be turning into knots. With the exception of Mailata (who isn't even having a good year anyway) and Devonta Smith, I would gladly shave multiple years off the contract of every single player on offense simply to avoid their cap hit and not be tied to them.

On defense, we are worried about keeping players and finding ways to pay them. On offense...literally the whole offense, the offseason should be spent finding ways to get out of paying them. Howie's real job this offseason will be finding creative ways to move money from this awful offense over towards preserving the defense.

Yup, this is why I said earlier this week that if they can get out of Dickerson's contract after this year, they should. He's a fantastic player and a warrior, but he's playing on borrowed time. His play at all cost mentality is something I respect, but it's also hurting the team. Same with Jurgens.

The fact of the matter is they need cheap contracts on offense to offset the upcoming spending spree on defense. They need to get out of some of these inflated contracts on offense.

7 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

100% uncharacteristic bone headed move by Howie. You knew Saquon was going to take a large step back after the workload he received last year.

Maybe the silver lining is it builds some good will among future free agents, making this a place where someone can envision being appreciated. Not saying it was the right move.

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

It wasn't exactly THIS coaching staff. And they also got career years from Barkley, Becton, Dickerson, and Jurgens. Lane was still here and nearly 100% healthy and Mailata was a way better version of himself. That's how.

Yeah, I didn't mean it literally....obviously.

7 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Hurts is far down on the list of players to blame because he did play a decent game, but he absolutely, 100% can NOT take that 3rd and 2 sack. We can question the play call, the routes run by the WR and the OL protection, but Hurts had outlets in Shipley and Goedert as well as a lane to take up up the middle (albeit a small one).

Oh yeah, that was a horrible play.

One thing I noticed watching the game yesterday. We can get AJ Brown the ball a bunch of different ways. We have plays that work for Devonta, plays that work for Goedert.

My question, why can't we do all of these things on the same drive. We started out early running the AJ play book, then moved on to Devonta, then Goedert later on.

Why is it impossible to run all of these plays on the same drive? Unpopular opinion, Hurts is incapable of handling information overload, and he has to be focused on specific things to be successful.

The Eagles latched onto something special and won a SB with a team straight out of the early 90's, maybe even 80's. Minimal passing offense with a huge bruising OL, a dominant run game, and a great defense.

I was wrong....they answered the question that you CAN win a SB with that blueprint. And we are all ecstatic about that.

Here's where I was right...building your team around the running game is not sustainable. There are 2 reasons why other NFL teams don't build around the run. 1 is the now defunct notion that you can't win a SB with that. 2 is the concern that it's not sustainable. Barkley is a shell this year and our banged up OL....take note....is pass protecting well but can't get push in the running game. If this team could pass the ball, we might be an undefeated or a 1 loss team right now.

We are suffering the consequences of building the offense around the run right now.

21 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

They play the Seahawks as well.

Looking back at the rams first game against Seahawks I don’t get why some thought a rams win was good. The rams will probably sweep them.

Eagles called 8 passing plays and 4 rushing plays in the 3rd quarter.

57 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Full answer

They have been running a ton of that recently.

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Thank you NFL for yet another short week.

Safety first.

DAL will be on their 3rd game in 11 days this Thursday. They should have not been on MNF last week, LV should have been Sunday game. NFL is ignorant about certain things especially when it comes to viewership, they are going to ride their show ponies, PHI, BUF, KC, DAL, DET, SF…

Patullo hasn’t been fired yet?