It's kinda crazy the Eagles could have to go through the NFCW entirely on the way to the SB. I wonder if that ever happened for a 3 game playoff stretch.

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yeah. It was dumb for people to downplay Barkley's season just as it is dumb to downplay Nick's success as a HC based on number of games in a season.

I don’t know about that, is it dumb to downplay Tomlin’s winning season streak? Siri was blessed with something not many new HC’s get, a pretty talented roster. The numbers are impressive, but how he coaches…is mind numbing at times. Hard to put him amongst the best other than him having flashy win percentages.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I suppose so, but shame on the Bengals if they let that sway them. But, I guess that's why they are the Bengals.

It’s def not all on him for sure. There’s an owner, GM, coaching staff, advisors, scouts, etc that are the issue too.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Back injury Cam

Other Cameron has an upper back/neck injury though?

1 hour ago, Eagles1960 said:

I think people are really underrating the Bears. The Bears beating the Eagles was hardly a fluke. They have a power running game like the Eagles had last year and that can control the clock. They have legit weapons at every offensive skill postion and Ben Johnson as their HC. They are a tough win especially in Chicago with 15 degree temps and a strong wind.

Bears are a good team, but Caleb is wildly inconsistent. Force him to improvise and you can easily shut them down if they need to rely on him. I don’t expect a repeat running performance if we play them again though either.

1 minute ago, Wentz_Era said:

I don’t know about that, is it dumb to downplay Tomlin’s winning season streak? Siri was blessed with something not many new HC’s get, a pretty talented roster. The numbers are impressive, but how he coaches…is mind numbing at times. Hard to put him amongst the best other than him having flashy win percentages.

Its odd that the very pro hurts people defend him as if winning is the end all be all and style points dont matter, and then the same standards to not apply to the coach. I argue that while both are benefitting from a supremely talented roster, its still a harder job for Siri to coach it, than for Jalen to play with and be lifted by it.

Siri makes it all work together on and off the field. And he keeps the locker room together in spite of years of passing game struggles with elite WRs who want the ball. An offense who is let down by the defense in some years, and a defense who is let down by the offense this year. You never heard a single defender complain about the offense putting them in horrible positions and wearing them out. Even this year, if they manage to turn it around- wow.

To win the super bowl last year after their collapse the year before. Team looked unfixable. He took that team to the super bowl.

At times his decisions to go for a 4th down or kick a FG are questionable. Other times they look perfectly calculated. This year theres a lot to question with the offense.

Overall, there is a heck of a lot of elite characteristics he brings to the HC position, and weaknesses have not prevented him from being pretty historically successful, going to super bowls, winning 1 so far. All with a pretty flawed QB.

You can probably argue- the more talented the team, the harder it is to coach. With the talent, come the egos. AJ Brown has not torn it apart. Gardner-Johnson did not tear it apart. Bradberry left NYG over ego, and ended up taking on a player coach role by the end here. Jahan Dotson quietly accepted his role getting less than 1 target a game despite his talent and pedigree. Bigsby has not complained about getting relegated to KR duties, and even now still getting minimal touches on offense. Ringo and Sydney Brown keep accepting their role on the bench, and STs when they both thought more of themselves. Theyre getting Jordan Davis motivated. Theyre keeping Jalen Carter out of trouble. Players are bought in to Fangio's defense when Miami wouldnt get the personalities to jive.

Siri hate that happens in here is literally insane. Even being lukewarm on him doesnt make much sense to me.

Yes I know sometimes his game day decisions dont work out. But hes no James Franklin out there single handedly losing games for his team. We saw Dan Campbell lose that game against us with repeated failed 4th down calls, and passing on FG opportunities. Fans in here still love him. I bet a lot would have him over Siri. McVay and Shanahan lose games for their teams being too conservative in the same kind of moments fans complain about Siri being too aggressive. Siri has had more success doing the opposite of what fans want than the guys the fans would prefer over him.

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I agree the #1 seed isn't likely. It's less than 1% according to ESPN.

I'm pulling for Rams so they win the division. It's looking likely Eagles end up #3 seed in the end and will face someone from the NFC West in the first round. I'd rather face 49ers/Seahawks in the wild card round at home then 49ers/Rams. Also, down the line lets say the #1 seed wins it's divisional round and hosts the NFCCG. I wouldn't be afraid of the Seahawks but in Seattle opens up a hard scenario to predict. Eagles never play well in Seattle, it's loud, it could be a mess weather wise and they actually have a home crowd whose getting excited. Meanwhile if we have to go back to LA, it's going to be an Eagles crowd without weather.

And that has nothing to do with Sam Darnold. More to do with their defense.

Yeah. Playing in LA would basically be a second home game. Definitely don’t want to play in Seattle.

These Saquon quotes are the only reason I have a modicum of faith in the offense moving forward. Seems like he gets it, unlike so many who think it’s just the OL. Because without a great run game (and remember, we were averaging less than 3 ypc before the Raiders game got out of hand), we’re done.

41 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Bears are a good team, but Caleb is wildly inconsistent. Force him to improvise and you can easily shut them down if they need to rely on him. I don’t expect a repeat running performance if we play them again though either.

Yup...I bring it up a lot, but Fangio is very cagey and his true strength is his adjustments. The Eagles D seems to be most vulnerable on the opposing teams first drive or two and then the adjustments take over.

I continue to point to the fatigue effect of the shortened offseason and the aura of being a champion. The two worst losses this season, when the Eagles looked the most overpowered was on the two Thursday night games. Every team on this year's schedule had the entire offseason to study and prepare for the Eagles, and bring their very best schemes and wrinkles. They took their best shot and now Fangio has the film to see the schemes and counter their best efforts.

The only team we are likely to cross paths in the early rounds that I have a concern with is SF. They match up well and seem to know how to exploit weaknesses. A lot has changed since the last meeting, especially the quality of the Eagles D. If the Eagles can execute, avoid dumb penalties and TO's, I like their chances against anyone.

59 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

I don’t know about that, is it dumb to downplay Tomlin’s winning season streak? Siri was blessed with something not many new HC’s get, a pretty talented roster. The numbers are impressive, but how he coaches…is mind numbing at times. Hard to put him amongst the best other than him having flashy win percentages.

Yup...I was pretty stunned to learn about how Sirianni only recently started taking a more active role in the offensive planning. I am very familiar with leadership styles...but...he is responsible for a very expensive product with hundreds of millions of dollars invested...it is not a place to go laissez faire. As the leader, one should never completely turn some over a portion of the product blindly to another person without some oversight and day-day knowledge. I feel he got a free pass in 2023 from the brain trust. With that kind of history on his resume, I would think he would bring much more urgency and awareness to the situation.

Siri knows Patullo very well. He was also already on staff prior to this year. To characterize making him OC as turning it over "blindly" is hilarious. As is characterizing allowing the OC to do his job as "laissez faire". To imply that Siri does not have oversight and day to day knowledge... more silliness. What the hell is that post?

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Siri knows Patullo very well. He was also already on staff prior to this year. To characterize making him OC as turning it over "blindly" is hilarious. As is characterizing allowing the OC to do his job as "laissez faire". To imply that Siri does not have oversight and day to day knowledge... more silliness. What the hell is that post?

Oh no...I am offended for sharing an opinion and having it be publicly shamed. I guess I can take your path and claim complete victimhood. I feel so disrespected.... Go away little man child! It is an opinion....what others think of it is none of my business...lol.

I hope they rest Carter until the playoffs (Lane too but not really related to this post). He has been injured since the summer and they should have taken care of it then. I like that he is getting that rest after that procedure now. If that fixed his shoulder issue then I would suspect we will see the best version of Jalen Carter by far this entire season and he will be very fresh on top of it.

To me, there's not much Saquon can do about the -1 yard runs. Almost all of those are blown blocks or predictable playcalls.

I think he's missed a few potentially big gains because he's been overly focused on the "meat and potatoes" runs. I don't mind a player like Saquon hunting the big play with our inconsistent OL.

5 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Just saw the stat that Jalen Hurts is about to become the first QB in NFL history to make the playoffs in 4 strsight years with 4 different offensive coordinators.

For Jalen: "Wow he's so amazing, you go King."
For Sirianni: "He's a bum, carried by Howie's roster, anyone could do it."

Seahawks look like they were gifted some Oregon Ducks hand me downs.

22 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

To me, there's not much Saquon can do about the -1 yard runs. Almost all of those are blown blocks or predictable playcalls.

I think he's missed a few potentially big gains because he's been overly focused on the "meat and potatoes" runs. I don't mind a player like Saquon hunting the big play with our inconsistent OL.

I saw Saquon seem to take a hint from Tank's style last game. Tank is such a "one cut, head north-south type of runner" and had a couple of successful runs (third quarter?). When Barkley he returned he had a run where he just lowered his shoulders into the hole and had a moderate 4-5 run into the defense. It was the first time I recalled all season seeing Barkley do that. I have gotten so frustrated watching him be patient and get dragged down from the backside this season. Crosby came close a few times coming all the way across the backside of the line to get him. That should not be happening as frequently as it does...

4 hours ago, NOTW said:

There you go again with facts. I mean sure, Hurts had career highs in passing yards and pass TDs that year while the defense was among the lowest in the league. But don't let that stop a narrative that Hurts can only make playoffs with a great defense.

And don't forget, Brian Johnson was the worst coordinator in Eagles history, since this Patullo guy is clearly a bad dream we're just not waking up from, so Hurts did it all by himself, and that explains the hilarious amount of interceptions!

That's why the collapse is only considered associated with Sirianni. We can use even the collapse to show the greatness of Jalen Hurts!

...Sorry I'm not really poking fun at you, just the logic of some Eagles fans, I'm well aware that wasn't your point.

1 hour ago, aptosbird said:

Yup...I was pretty stunned to learn about how Sirianni only recently started taking a more active role in the offensive planning. I am very familiar with leadership styles...but...he is responsible for a very expensive product with hundreds of millions of dollars invested...it is not a place to go laissez faire. As the leader, one should never completely turn some over a portion of the product blindly to another person without some oversight and day-day knowledge. I feel he got a free pass in 2023 from the brain trust. With that kind of history on his resume, I would think he would bring much more urgency and awareness to the situation.

You're not thinking about this very effectively. This is a common mistake, because people think too much about 'what' and not enough about 'why. What was the big narrative that people keep repeating about the change from 2023, to 2024? Last I checked, the change was getting rid of Brian Johnson and being asked to be less involved with the offense as everyone overreacted to the collapse, right? Some were saying this came from the FO. Okay, so you do that as you're asked, and then you win a Super Bowl. Afterwards, you lose your OC and a new one comes in. If that's the thing that worked for you, can you not understand why a man would have some hesitation with re-inserting himself?

I've talked about this before, that I believe Jalen and Sirianni are schematically not the best fit together. So for that reason, I can see why he'd think that maybe other things fit him best while Jalen is QB. But when things get to such a level where it's clear a change is needed, and there's not really anyone else to direct that change to...

When you're the boss, whether it's optimal or not.

You try to make it work.

It's not about urgency, or awareness. It's about how mentalities and philosophies develop over time. It's easy to discard situational progression and act like things are obvious without context, but humans operate on their own context by default, which changes things. Additionally, if you're a boss and you handhold constantly, your employees won't develop into being reliable pieces of your organization. He had time to allow that to happen as long as the defense didn't collapse. But when you get closer to the playoffs, you want to do it with enough time that you can properly install what you need.

People seem to forget this, I'm pretty sure Sirianni was doing a lot of the game planning in 2021 and 2022 with Steichen when he gave over the play calling role. Just because he's not t

8 hours ago, greendestiny27 said:

So let's get rid of a pro bowl receiver to just draft one. Sounds exactly like what the Titans did, which we all laughed at and look how well that worked out for them and us.

The titans didnt already have another #1 calibre receiver on their roster at the time they drafted AJ. We do.

To put greater perspective on Jalen Hurts becoming the first QB to win the NFC East two years in a row since Donovan McNabb in 03 & 04, let's look at some of the QBs that have played in the NFC East since then that haven't been able to do it:

Eli Manning

Drew Bledsoe

Tony Romo

Michael Vick

RG3

Nick Foles

Kirk Cousins

Dak Prescott

Carson Wentz

Jayden Daniels

20 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

You're not thinking about this very effectively. This is a common mistake, because people think too much about 'what' and not enough about 'why.

Oh ok Eeyore....lol. I will defer to your superior knowledge, experience and understanding of coaching and leadership....lol.

I think Tank freelances a bit in that he see’s what’s open and heads that way but not necessarily what the play call dictates. Which might explain coaches reluctance to play him as much as they should