6 minutes ago, DaBirds said:

I give Nick full credit for the offense.

Every time he’s involved with it, it gets worse. They can’t even hire a real OC and let him do his thing because Nick has to make sure his amateur nonsense is in it somewhere.

Yes he’s gets a ton of credit for the garbage we see on offense.

This is where I don't agree with the "blame the coaches" crowd. I really don't think Nick just happens to feel like injecting amateur BS with one single route concept in the offense. He was the OC in Indy. Not saying he did anything to create Luck or that offense, but he sure didn't forcibly put his amateur fingerprints and route tree into that one.

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

This is where I don't agree with the "blame the coaches" crowd. I really don't think Nick just happens to feel like injecting amateur BS with one single route concept in the offense. He was the OC in Indy. Not saying he did anything to create Luck or that offense, but he sure didn't forcibly put his amateur fingerprints and route tree into that one.

Well we’ve seen zero evidence to the contrary. Whatever he debuted with in 2021 was laughable. He had only known Hurts a few months it couldn’t all be Hurts deficiencies. I think he did 36845865 wr screens in a row at one point.

1 minute ago, DaBirds said:

Well we’ve seen zero evidence to the contrary. Whatever he debuted with in 2021 was laughable. He had only known Hurts a few months it couldn’t all be Hurts deficiencies. I think he did 36845865 wr screens in a row at one point.

Well the revered Steichen was the OC in 2021...

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Well the revered Steichen was the OC in 2021...

Yes… Nick handed the offense over to Steichen after a month or two and it suddenly took off and lasted all the way until the SB the next year.

Then in 2023 it looked like Siri’s offense again.

Weird coincidence.

The correlation I see with Nick’s increased involvement in the offense is that the passing volume goes up significantly. Essentially, the gameplan becomes let Jalen cook - which doesn’t necessarily mean 5 turnovers (!) but it does mean more turnovers. The analytics say consistently losing the turnover battle is bad, and eventually Nick is suppressed and the OC tries to win by other means. We have less means this season relative to prior years.

Gonna make the 2027 class even more loaded. 2026 is not the year to get a QB.

2 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

You sure do have a way with the details. Almost like you have years of experience with this exact event.

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Gonna make the 2027 class even more loaded. 2026 is not the year to get a QB.

Smart choice - earn that NIL, work on your game.

On 12/12/2025 at 8:58 AM, we_gotta_believe said:

I don't remember this being as much of an issue last season or in 2022. Do you have any data to back this up or is this another one of your "Trust me, bro" sources?

Snow will be outta here by 8amish tomorrow, but it is going to be freezing during the game. 28 degrees with 30mph gusts and real feel of 16 degrees. Might be a 7-3 game.

12 minutes ago, Swoop said:

I appreciate the research - while I don’t like the ball being snapped with 1s on the play clock - the issue in my mind is when the huddle is broken and how much time the offense has at the LoS to survey the defense. We can get to the line with 15s left and snap at 2s, and that’s good not bad.

10 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Thanks. So if I'm reading these right, the year-by-year breakdown is like this?

2021:

Snaps with under 2 seconds on the play clock: 8%

Snaps with under 5 seconds on the play clock: ~32%

2022:

Under 2 seconds: 7%

Under 5 seconds: 30%

2023:

Under 2 seconds: ~10%

Under 5 seconds: 35%

2024:

Under 2 seconds: ~10%

Under 5 seconds: ~38%

2025 (so far):

Under 2 seconds: ~31%

Under 5 seconds: ~61%

One of these is not like the others.