1 minute ago, manz2821 said:

I don't think we can keep Smith and Phillips. One would have to go eventually. We have to try and keep Carter and Davis but I don't think it would be possible as they would want top dollar which they deserve. Hopefully Robinson can develop and contribute next year. We also would want to keep Quinyon and Coop. Lots of big decisions.

Yup, Smith is an odd man out unfortunately. It's a shame. I love the guys attitude and the way he punishes OL, but with Hunt developing and hopefully Phillips returning, he's expendable. He could be solid trade bait as well. And yes, Quinyon and Cooper are going to cost a TON.

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I feel like Buffalo was daring them to throw due to the weather conditions. Hurts wasn’t awful throwing it but he also wasn’t great. Saw that on a couple of balls in the second half.

That said eagles were their ow worse enemy when they seems to finally get the running game to click. They actually looked like they were figuring it out at the end of the first half. Barkley had back to back to back carries of 9, 16, 4 and tank had 5 yard carry. To start the second half Barkley had back to back runs of 5 and 10. The 5 of next 6 plays are passes. After that he run game never got more than 3 yards on a run. I said in this thread after his first two runs of the half, it seems like he’s finding a groove and he’s on the verge of busting one. They just decided to stop and just hope when they went back to that well he’d pick up where he left off. He didn’t.

I also think in a playoff game with the weather being like it was, Hurts is probably running more. I didn’t see many called or designed runs for him. I think in the playoffs given the weather conditions that there would have been more Jalen hurts running. I think because this game wasn’t a must win that They didn’t want to risk him getting hurt. Frankly almost got hurt by a dirty shot on the sideline.

Yeah. Designed runs for Hurts will def be out in the playoffs. You're right the O is always stuck in second gear. There is no cohesion. Even if they have a great play the next set of plays will be negative. It doesn't look like a professional offence. Which is downright puzzling looking at the talent.

It really is a joke that Jurgens made the pro bowl. That is an honor without substance at this point.

Just now, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I wouldn’t say they deflated, they got beat by a trick play on 4th down and a couple of circus catches where they had good coverage. No one should expect defenses to pitch a shutout in today’s NFL. If they get today’s defense in the playoffs, this team is going back to the Super Bowl.

The defense was exceptional tonight. I'm just saying there was a noticeable decrease in intensity...aka they were tired. Still a great performance and it still took some luck for the Bills to get those scores.

8 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I don’t know what they’re gonna do but I do find it interesting that every single beat guy after last week’s game after Dan Quinn talked trash they all said "You can get your revenge against the backups, because that’s who you’ll be playing) when it was always very realistic the Eagles beat the Bills and the Niners beat the Bears. So either they have insight into it or they all just kinda jumped the gun because being in the mix for the 2 seed in the final week was always a big possibility and everyone kinda penciled in the backups playing like it was a foregone conclusion.

Almost every beat I heard in podcast basically acted as if the #3 seed was unavoidable. Berman was one that said dependent on the games, they could have a decent shot at the #2 seed and should play starters Week 18 if they do. I think mostly everyone assumed Week 18 wouldn’t matter.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m curious to see what they look like against Seattle. That’s probably the best defense they’ve faced Houston and scored 15.

I’ll tell you what, this terrible 49ers defense will look like the #1 defense in the NFL against our offense. Wouldn’t be able to score more than a TD against them

Just now, pgcd3 said:

It really is a joke that Jurgens made the pro bowl. That is an honor without substance at this point.

The amazing thing is that I think players put him there. Just like Mitchell was getting no fan votes and peers got him in.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

That’s what I was referring to. By saying Patullo did a a good job in first half he’s implying he did a bad job in the 2nd

Huff sighting lining up offsides lol

15 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I just don't understand what 2 series is going to do for Hurts and the offense when they had 16 games. They don't need work. They suck. It is what it is.

They don't play them in the 4th preseason game before week 1 (or any preseason game). Why do it now before the playoffs?

I know but I'd rather the offense having a little success going into the playoffs then the 2nd half of today's game being their last showing going into the post season.

It probably won't matter. The defense is going to have to have a unreal run because the offense might be lucky to get 20 points any game.

Just now, manz2821 said:

Yeah. Designed runs for Hurts will def be out in the playoffs. You're right the O is always stuck in second gear. There is no cohesion. Even if they have a great play the next set of plays will be negative. It doesn't look like a professional offence. Which is downright puzzling looking at the talent.

There’s two things that I believe. First the Eagles far too often rely on the fact that they are the more talented team and they’re gonna beat you overtime because they are more talented and that will eventually shine through. I think that is true and it’s been somewhat the case since 2023 (offensively; not defensively)

Secondly, their play calling doesn’t build off of what they do. Feels very much like they come into the game with all these plays and they just pick them at random times and do it. Instead of seeing what’s working then trying to build off of what’s working. Feels like they kind of just choose plays to go with instead of seeing why the defense is giving you and what’s working

1 minute ago, RoadToHell said:

I’ll tell you what, this terrible 49ers defense will look like the #1 defense in the NFL against our offense. Wouldn’t be able to score more than a TD against them

They can’t scheme or take advantage of a defense’s weakness. Dallas had a terrible secondary, and they couldn’t move the ball in the second half of that game. Buffalo has a terrible run defense and they ran into 8 and 9 man boxes all game. Oddly enough, Hurts’ best game of the season came against Minnesota which is one of the better defenses in the league.

Are these offenses for SF and Chicago this good or thier defenses are this bad. I know Shanahan and Johnson are offensive gurus but there are absolutely zero stops to be made in this game.

2 minutes ago, manz2821 said:

Are these offenses for SF and Chicago this good or thier defenses are this bad. I know Shanahan and Johnson are offensive gurus but there are absolutely zero stops to be made in this game.

Chicago is average. SF is poor.

4 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

That’s what I was referring to. By saying Patullo did a a good job in first half he’s implying he did a bad job in the 2nd

That’s bs by Sirianni. He dictates their approach throughout the game. Lame as hell to put it on Patullo, but I think it was just a weird way of him trying to take accountability for it and it came out like it did. I’m long tired of the head coach getting a pass especially when he’s an offensive coach for when the team looks incompetent on offense. This is on the head coach.

Swift still got it

I think it’s safe to say that both Moro and Hunt have surpassed the expectations of replacing Milton and Sweat. They have really stepped up as the season went along and played great. Those weren’t easy shoes to fill and they did it.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

There’s two things that I believe. Won the Eagles far too often rely on the fact that they are the more talented team and they’re gonna beat you overtime because they are more talented and that will eventually shine through. I think that is true and it’s been somewhat the case since 2023.

Secondly, their play calling doesn’t build off of what they do. Feels very much like they come into the game with all these plays and they just pick them at random times of when they’re gonna do it. Instead of seeing what’s working then trying to build off of what’s working. Feels like they kind of just choose plays to go with.

100% that's why need an experienced playcaller. Im still so surprised Howie didn't learn from the Joshson experiment and again promoted from within other than looking outside for the OC. The SB win clouded his judgement for sure.

I don’t think either of these offenses have looked as bad as both defenses have looked

1 minute ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

They can’t scheme or take advantage of a defense’s weakness. Dallas had a terrible secondary, and they couldn’t move the ball in the second half of that game. Buffalo has a terrible run defense and they ran into 8 and 9 man boxes all game. Oddly enough, Hurts’ best game of the season came against Minnesota which is one of the better defenses in the league.

They lack any kind of rhythm. It’s literally like the coaches are throwing random crap at a wall hoping something sticks, every single series. They have no idea what they’re doing in terms of gameplan. They get a 2 score lead somehow and then try to kill the clock. There’s no urgency to go for the kill this year, they’re way to conservative and just hope for the best from the talent they have on the roster instead of putting them in best position to thrive. The coaches don’t know what the hell they’re doing to right the ship

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

There’s two things that I believe. Won the Eagles far too often rely on the fact that they are the more talented team and they’re gonna beat you overtime because they are more talented and that will eventually shine through. I think that is true and it’s been somewhat the case since 2023.

Secondly, their play calling doesn’t build off of what they do. Feels very much like they come into the game with all these plays and they just pick them at random times of when they’re gonna do it. Instead of seeing what’s working then trying to build off of what’s working. Feels like they kind of just choose plays to go with.

I really struggle to dissect the playcalling. When the offense is truly moving on a drive and they call a random cutesy play that gets away from that and costs them a down and stops a drive...it's easy to point that out and take issue with it. It's easier to see a play call that disrupts the flow.

Personally, I have a harder time evaluating the playcalling when NOTHING works. You want to do that cowards draw on 3rd and 12? That's just a reflection of no confidence in your personnel. A first down run to Barkley stone walled at the LOS while Hurts can't complete a pass? I dunno, what else were they supposed to do? Not enough crossers? We saw the way the turnovers get out of hand when they unpack the route tree against a defense that isn't bottom 5 and eliminated from the playoffs.

If this defense were less spectacular, I think we'd see them take more chances on offense and have a ton more turnovers as they tried to keep pace with other teams...en route to being a sub .500 team. But they know that if the offense can eliminate turnovers entirely, they'll luck into a couple point generating drives and will probably win the game with this defense. So that's why they call this offense.

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Chicago is average. SF is poor.

Both these teams are also-rans if PHI and LAR play near their best. The Rams and Eagles are at least a rung better than the other 5 if Hurts plays anything like he can.

Just now, manz2821 said:

100% that's why need an experienced playcaller. Im still so surprised Howie didn't learn from the Joshson experiment and again promoted from within other than looking outside for the OC. The SB win clouded his judgement for sure.

Could’ve learned from Mike groh experiment with Doug also not working out the way they wanted. He didn’t have NFL experience as a play caller or OC (only time he was an OC was over a decade prior at UVA)