2 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

How did you miss it? We've written about it in here on many occasions. Anyway, it might be a really big deal.

My only issue with it is having big Fred in signals the likelihood of a running play as if KP doesn't give it away too much already. I just hope the OC has his brain is clear and has enough passing plays and Hurts designed runs to keep the defense off balance.

1 minute ago, aptosbird said:

My only issue with it is having big Fred in signals the likelihood of a running play as if KP doesn't give it away too much already. I just hope the OC has his brain is clear and has enough passing plays and Hurts designed runs to keep the defense off balance.

Yeah, they will need a couple of options to audible to if necessary. Maybe Big Fred can catch 😊 though I suppose a deep ball or slant is more likely if AJ or Smitty get single coverage. I see it as a max 6-10 snaps a game formation.

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Feels like it's more of a misjudgement with the original opening line and they are trying to cover all the money that came in on Eagles. They are begging people to bet 49ers. All you mentioned certainly plays a part but it's not exactly new or unknown information. Even if it was, it wouldn't be a that big of a swing by itself.

Most sites that track the action don't really show a heavily lopsided split. At least not one that typically correlates to this type of movement.

8 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Most sites that track the action don't really show a heavily lopsided split. At least not one that typically correlates to this type of movement.

I just checked and I am seeing -5.5...not 6. Has there been a very recent adjustment?

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Most sites that track the action don't really show a heavily lopsided split. At least not one that typically correlates to this type of movement.

So do you think there has been heavy action at a casino that caused line setters to reset the line, rather than a compilation of smaller action on the sites? I thought even giant 7 figure bets didn't move the line that much.

Didn't it move like 2.5 points? What gives, do you think? Open question to anyone that has an opinion as to why is it moving?

I don't bet. I just find the movement interesting.

2 minutes ago, aptosbird said:

I just checked and I am seeing -5.5...not 6. Has there been a very recent adjustment?

But still that would be a full 2 points from opening line?  

I just assume vegas already knows Trent Williams and Pearsall are not playing.

3 minutes ago, jamiller said:

But still that would be a full 2 points from opening line?  

I understand that...I am wondering if it has moved in the last 2 hours or so since BLG posted. The line moves like this at this late moment because the people with the real inside scoops are getting new information. I have a feeling it is about injury updates that are beyond public knowledge...all speculation of course. Trent and Lane are both officially listed as questionable but I believe that designation falls on a pretty wide spectrum. One may be a game time decision and the other may be leaning towards playing...that is what I have been tracking...hence my question. The professional gamblers who spend the big bucks already know.

19 minutes ago, aptosbird said:

I just checked and I am seeing -5.5...not 6. Has there been a very recent adjustment?

Almost all books have 5.5 but shaded vig at -115

19 minutes ago, jamiller said:

So do you think there has been heavy action at a casino that caused line setters to reset the line, rather than a compilation of smaller action on the sites? I thought even giant 7 figure bets didn't move the line that much.

Didn't it move like 2.5 points? What gives, do you think? Open question to anyone that has an opinion as to why is it moving?

I don't bet. I just find the movement interesting.

No clue what's happening but it's nothing obvious like a bunch of public action on PHI.

52 minutes ago, jamiller said:

Think Rams could lose in Carolina?

I want them out but kind of think we need them to win and go beat Seattle and see us in the NFCCG in Philly. Hard to see Carolina beating the Rams and Seattle.

I do think the Packers beat the Bears.

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AFC I like the Jags, Chargers and Texans. Mostly because I don't respect all three opponents this year.

I expect the Rams to win this week because Carolina is not great and they already played a close game with lots of Rams mistakes.

I think whoever gets the Rams next beats them badly.

The Packers and Bears are interesting. I think the Bears are better against a random opponent but the Packers play Chicago really well.

Its the absolute worst match up for SF and Chicago.

I also think the Chargers is a bad matchup for 1st time playoff QB Maye.

LAC makes lots of QBs look bad.

NE might need some run game and some Eagles Mt Rushmore Milton Williams on D.

23 minutes ago, aptosbird said:

I just checked and I am seeing -5.5...not 6. Has there been a very recent adjustment?

It’s hovering around 6. Some dropped down to -5.5, some stayed at 6. I have to use HardRock and they are still -6

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Assistant QB coach to OC.

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

No clue what's happening but it's nothing obvious like a bunch of public action on PHI.

I figured it out. A new consultant arrived

More books flipping from -5.5 to -6

3 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

Rushing yards only if you can track those

I will try.

I don't get caught up in Vegas and lines but I am shocked we jumped 2 points in the last several days. I guess the Eagles are coming in more healthy than the 9ers.

25 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

More books flipping from -5.5 to -6

Gotta imagine the professional bettors drove that line up late in the week. Bears/Chicago flipped on Monday then flipped again on Tuesday on draft kings and the line has stayed at -1.5 GB

Just saw the jags line flipped from 1.5 bills on Monday/tuesday to now 1.5 jags

There are good reasons for the line movement.

SF just got held to 3 points on offense at home vs one of the top 3 NFL defenses.

They have to travel across the country to play another top 3 defense. (how they are now, not year long stats)

Their LBs are Garrett Wallow, out of retirement Erik Kendricks, Kyzir White who could not see the field in Tennessee, and Curtis Robinson

They are bottom 3 in the NFL vs WR2. Meet DeVonta Smith.

Their starting DEs have a combined 2 sacks since the end of October. (and 7 on the year)

Their DE 3 has no sacks since the end of November and 4 on the year.

Their DE4 had no sacks in 8 games with the team.

Their starting DTs have a combined 1 sack on the year.

Their DTs 3-5 have a combined 1 sack on the year.

The players on this current 49ers team have a combined 16 sacks and 4 picks this year.

They allow a 100+ passer rating as a D, possibly the 3rd playoff team to do so in the SB era.

The 2018 Saints (who beat Philly) had the 2nd best run D in yards and yards per attempt rushing to even things out a bit. (and played at home)

The 49ers are 11th and 20th.

The 2016 Lions (who lost 26-6 in Seattle) had the 9th and 20th best run D for yards and yards per carry.

This was not a bad football team in week 1 but injuries have made this a bad team now.

What a start to the Peach Bowl. Said it earlier this year, Ponds is a CB I can see the Eagles drooling over.

why do ppl put so much stock in vegas?

IU center moves pretty well for a fat dude…