32 minutes ago, McMVP said:

NFL schedule is a rotating formula that is pre-determined. They don’t set it up based on trying to give fan bases I hope. The only thing the NFL schedule makers do is determine the dates of the matchups…

Again i phrased it poorly. Would’ve edited my post except for whatever reason it won’t let you when you respond to a tweet. I explained my response later. It was supposed to say the nfl did a good job setting up the order (particularly the bears) in which they played their schedule of weaker opponents and stronger opponents. the bears schedule really did. Their tougher games were/are mainly in the second half of the year. those teams like GB twice, lions, niners, eagles and even borderline Steelers we knew were playoff caliber teams and likely fighting for playoff spots. We kind of knew Vegas, giants, saints (and even Dallas) were likely going to be bad or below average teams. All those games came early. Could’ve split the tougher back end and easier front end up better.

Tbh if bears played their back half of the schedule first (last 8 games), they might be sitting at 3-5 type record as they struggled with Vegas, bengals, giants and commanders (happened to be bad this year). Feels like they set up the order of the bears schedule (easier to much harder— even preseason if you looked at it many of their back end of the schedule were teams we thought are playoff teams) so that bears could potentially be relevant halfway through. Imo frankly it makes sense. Big market team and that Black Friday game if the bears are bad and not fighting for a playoff spot makes it much less interesting.

6 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Only two paragraphs in that story mattered which were aj brown apologizing to him but telling him why he was frustrated along with he will stop airing out his frustration to social media. And lurie said he didn’t need to apologize. It’s probably cause Lurie is just as frustrated with how inconsistent the offense has looked

So many people are just dying to see the Eagles collapse and it won't happen. I have a feeling they drop the hammer on the Lions today.

1 hour ago, Thunda32 said:

Pics or it didn't happen

Picks or it didn't happen.

EAGLES LIONS RIVALRY

In the last 3 head to head match ups these teams have combined for 3 wins

Since 2000, these teams have combined for 22 playoff wins.

Since 2000, these teams have combined for 9 conference championship appearances and 4 wins.

Since 2017, these teams have combined for 3 Super Bowl appearances and 2 wins.

The two starting QBs have combined to lead their teams to 26 points per game in Super Bowls.

This is truly an elite contest of equals.

10 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Don't love it with how our defense had struggled with defending the run (seems better the last 2-3 games) and we can't run outside of that Giants game. Eagles shouldn't wait to rotate in Tank to get some runs if Barkley isn't hitting them early. If anything go with Tank early to hit them with those just run right at and through them runs and then switch it up with Barkley after the Lions defense has been run through the ringer a bit with Tank.

Dean, BG, and Phillips are 3 excellent run defenders. They did not play a defensive snap in the first 6 games.

There is also this guy named Carter who missed the Dallas and NY1 games (145.5 rushing yards allowed per game without him)

With Carter and Dean in the lineup together its been 87 yards per game.

10 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

In the last 3 head to head match ups these teams have combined for 3 wins

Some serious analysis right thar

Man, I bet Madrid can't wait for its next NFL game. Such a scintillating product. And people think soccer is boring.

@SkippyX

Hi. There have been several factors contributing to the offensive inconsistency. The OL has been underperforming relative to last season. Defenses have changed the way we defend us. The OC is struggling to adjust mid-game.

Is Hurts a factor as well? Are there things he could be doing better? Is he playing well and the issues lie elsewhere?

I look forward to a sober, objective response.

9 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

@SkippyX

Hi. There have been several factors contributing to the offensive inconsistency. The OL has been underperforming relative to last season. Defenses have changed the way we defend us. The OC is struggling to adjust mid-game.

Is Hurts a factor as well? Are there things he could be doing better? Is he playing well and the issues lie elsewhere?

I look forward to a sober, objective response.

Did you also think to take into account the f'ing teams we have played? And when and where we played them? You'd think we were playing the Sisters of the Poor the way some of you talk. Tampa (who has always given us fits) in Tampa when it was 1000 degrees. Green Bay, in Green Bay when it was windy and cold and a top 5 defense in points and yardage. Denver, that our defense let down, has a top 3 defense. KC (in KC with Super Bowl revenge), top 6 defense. Rams (with revenge on their minds), 11th in defense. Vikings on the road with the 12th ranked defense.

Yes.....they can play better. Yes, I hate Patullo and the way his offense is called and has looked. But the Eagles have played the 3rd, 5th, 6th, 11th, 12th ranked defenses. And last I checked, these other NFL teams might be a little hyped up to give their best efforts against the Super Bowl Champions. And the Eagles are still 7-2.

That being said, they should have told Patullo it was an away game this week and sent him to Detroit.

28 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

@SkippyX

Hi. There have been several factors contributing to the offensive inconsistency. The OL has been underperforming relative to last season. Defenses have changed the way we defend us. The OC is struggling to adjust mid-game.

Is Hurts a factor as well? Are there things he could be doing better? Is he playing well and the issues lie elsewhere?

I look forward to a sober, objective response.

Indubitably. A well thought out series of objective observations followed by a flurry of provocative questions. A sober offering if there ever was one. Well played, chap!

13 minutes ago, NYEagle said:

Did you also think to take into account the f'ing teams we have played? And when and where we played them? You'd think we were playing the Sisters of the Poor the way some of you talk. Tampa (who has always given us fits) in Tampa when it was 1000 degrees. Green Bay, in Green Bay when it was windy and cold and a top 5 defense in points and yardage. Denver, that our defense let down, has a top 3 defense. KC (in KC with Super Bowl revenge), top 6 defense. Rams (with revenge on their minds), 11th in defense. Vikings on the road with the 12th ranked defense.

Yes.....they can play better. Yes, I hate Patullo and the way his offense is called and has looked. But the Eagles have played the 3rd, 5th, 6th, 11th, 12th ranked defenses. And last I checked, these other NFL teams might be a little hyped up to give their best efforts against the Super Bowl Champions. And the Eagles are still 7-2.

That being said, they should have told Patullo it was an away game this week and sent him to Detroit.

All objectively true. Again, where do you think Hurts fits into what we've been seeing? Is the quality of the defenses an excuse for Hurts? If so, then why not the same for Patullo?

23 minutes ago, NYEagle said:

Did you also think to take into account the f'ing teams we have played? And when and where we played them? You'd think we were playing the Sisters of the Poor the way some of you talk. Tampa (who has always given us fits) in Tampa when it was 1000 degrees. Green Bay, in Green Bay when it was windy and cold and a top 5 defense in points and yardage. Denver, that our defense let down, has a top 3 defense. KC (in KC with Super Bowl revenge), top 6 defense. Rams (with revenge on their minds), 11th in defense. Vikings on the road with the 12th ranked defense.

Yes.....they can play better. Yes, I hate Patullo and the way his offense is called and has looked. But the Eagles have played the 3rd, 5th, 6th, 11th, 12th ranked defenses. And last I checked, these other NFL teams might be a little hyped up to give their best efforts against the Super Bowl Champions. And the Eagles are still 7-2.

That being said, they should have told Patullo it was an away game this week and sent him to Detroit.

The Broncos game this year was the seattle game fron 2023. Offense did jack ish all game, and then the defense collapsed in the 4th quarter. In today's NFL I'm never blaming a defense for a loss when the offense, especially THIS offense AT HOME, scores under 20 points.

We had only one drive take more than 2 minutes off the clock in the 2nd half, and only one drive that had more than 5 plays (the last drive). That loss is just as much the offense's fault.

18 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

All objectively true. Again, where do you think Hurts fits into what we've been seeing? Is the quality of the defenses an excuse for Hurts? If so, then why not the same for Patullo?

My point is only, winning in the NFL is hard. This team constantly wins.....is it always pretty? Nope! But damn, it was only last year but people think that this team was some kind of Juggernaut. Don't you guys remember the Jags, Browns, Saints and Panthers games? These teams all SUCKED and STILL SUCK and the Eagles barely won these games.

Is Hurts perfect? Nope! Is Patullo perfect? NOT EVEN F'ING CLOSE! Is Siranni Perfect? Or Howie? Nope and Nope! We are 7-2, we have beaten some of the best teams in the NFL. F'ing enjoy it! I've said it before, I'll say it again......I never thought I would live to see one Eagles Super Bowl Victory let alone two, within 8 years of each other along with another Super Bowl appearance. Nothing in life is guaranteed. Tomorrow isn't guaranteed for any of us. F'ing enjoy the day, enjoy what we have which, since 2000 has honestly been one of the top 3 Franchises in the NFL.

Would it be great to have an All-Pro at every position, perfect health, the offspring of a Walsh, Belicheck super sperm baby coaching us? Yep! But we got what we got and it's pretty damn good.

23 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

All objectively true. Again, where do you think Hurts fits into what we've been seeing? Is the quality of the defenses an excuse for Hurts? If so, then why not the same for Patullo?

I know this isn't directed at me but IMO the biggest reason they aren't excuses for Patullo is that while defenses CAN dictate how an offense operates, Patullo makes so many unforced idiotic decisions with sequencing and playcalling it cannot be attributed to the defense. The consistent coward's draws, the lack of route spacing, the inability to scheme against zone, these are things that the defense don't control.

10 minutes ago, NYEagle said:

My point is only, winning in the NFL is hard. This team constantly wins.....is it always pretty? Nope! But damn, it was only last year but people think that this team was some kind of Juggernaut. Don't you guys remember the Jags, Browns, Saints and Panthers games? These teams all SUCKED and STILL SUCK and the Eagles barely won these games.

Is Hurts perfect? Nope! Is Patullo perfect? NOT EVEN F'ING CLOSE! Is Siranni Perfect? Or Howie? Nope and Nope! We are 7-2, we have beaten some of the best teams in the NFL. F'ing enjoy it! I've said it before, I'll say it again......I never thought I would live to see one Eagles Super Bowl Victory let alone two, within 8 years of each other along with another Super Bowl appearance. Nothing in life is guaranteed. Tomorrow isn't guaranteed for any of us. F'ing enjoy the day, enjoy what we have which, since 2000 has honestly been one of the top 3 Franchises in the NFL.

Would it be great to have an All-Pro at every position, perfect health, the offspring of a Walsh, Belicheck super sperm baby coaching us? Yep! But we got what we got and it's pretty damn good.

This team will be fine.

Unfortunately some H.D.S. seems to have leaked out to 1 or 2 players and several members of the media

And lest we forget......I am in no WAY excusing Patullo and some of the just god awful things he's done. But let's try this, the Eagles, as a product of winning the Super Bowl were already late to the coaching hiring cycle. Then they lose their OC. Who should they have hired? And I'm not asking as a na na na I know best and Patullo is the best type question. I seriously don't even know. I don't follow other teams or college close enough. Is there/was there someone out there that would have been a guaranteed home run like Fangio on defense?

1 minute ago, devpool said:

I know this isn't directed at me but IMO the biggest reason they aren't excuses for Patullo is that while defenses CAN dictate how an offense operates, Patullo makes so many unforced idiotic decisions with sequencing and playcalling it cannot be attributed to the defense. The consistent coward's draws, the lack of route spacing, the inability to scheme against zone, these are things that the defense don't control.

OK...

The Coward's Draw - Do you believe that this is Patullo's decision or Sirianni's risk aversion? Many beats and analysts have settled on the latter.

Routes and Scheme - I have read/listened to many football analysts that confidently state the Eagles passing game is very simplistic. Not just this season. It has been a discussion for several years - across various OCs. When Moore showed up last season, many expected to see more of what he had done in Dallas - under center play-action, motion, use of the middle of the field. We really didn't though, did we? Zone beating concepts are available to every professional and amateur OC. They are published everywhere. Do you support the notion that Patullo doesn't understand them? The offense looks the way Hurts wants it to look.

Playcalling and sequencing - I'll give you that. I am dumbfounded by the insistence on running inside. That said, when a play doesn't work, are we sure it was a bad choice of play or rather poor execution by the players?

Thanks for the reasonable discussion.

Guess the Dolphins don’t give an F.

That's the guy everyone wants as an OC. What a idiot.

8 minutes ago, coalesce said:

That's the guy everyone wants as an OC. What an idiot.

Was a report today dolphins are bringing back HC and Tua for 2026

You know what a game between 2 3 win teams needs??

Overtime.

10 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

OK...

The Coward's Draw - Do you believe that this is Patullo's decision or Sirianni's risk aversion? Many beats and analysts have settled on the latter.

Routes and Scheme - I have read/listened to many football analysts that confidently state the Eagles passing game is very simplistic. Not just this season. It has been a discussion for several years - across various OCs. When Moore showed up last season, many expected to see more of what he had done in Dallas - under center play-action, motion, use of the middle of the field. We really didn't though, did we? Zone beating concepts are available to every professional and amateur OC. They are published everywhere. Do you support the notion that Patullo doesn't understand them? The offense looks the way Hurts wants it to look.

Playcalling and sequencing - I'll give you that. I am dumbfounded by the insistence on running inside. That said, when a play doesn't work, are we sure it was a bad choice of play or rather poor execution by the players?

Thanks for the reasonable discussion.

One of the nicest things about KM last year was that he was established and could keep Nick away from things or at least be a strong voice against him. He's a great "CEO coach" but the guy sucks at offense. Howie and Jeff shouldn't have let him have his choice even if he won a SB. They had the winning coaching formula and let him go right back to an inside guy.

I think you are right that it's Nick's risk aversion, which might have been why even KM went to him in the SB about the dagger. It may be more evident this year because KP doesn't want to or isn't willing to go against him.