2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Also has 3 sacks in the last 5 weeks. I don’t think that’s a coincidence that he was closer to the year mark with his ACL surgery, he started to play better.

I’ve said this in the past, these are human beings. They aren’t robot athletes. Let’s use our own guy. Jurgens had major back surgery 8-9 months before start of the season. Imo it was likely he would struggle early coming back from that in that amount of time and trusting his back. It probably weren’t getting best of jurgens until end of 2025 or 2026. Assuming the surgery went well. That’s what tends to happen. I’m not surprised. He struggled early in the season when he had it played in almost a year and he was less than a year removed from the ACL.

12 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Easy to look up who it was. They went to social media with their gripes. It was largely guys in the secondary (couple of them are not even playing anymore). were reports chubb/phillips had no problems with him since the trade it’s been put out there.

Also don’t see any chance we are trading for Phillips if he were one of the guys who hated fangio especially after what happened with Bryce huff failures here.

He's signed players that it seemed like Vic had no input though

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

So again, not a pivot. Just reiterating what I had already stated.

You better hope he dominates here to justify how personally offended you are taking it that someone isnt head over heels in love with the trade.

No, what you said to me originally then your follow up was 100% a pivot.

Who says I love the trade? Im willing to see if it works before railing on it. The only thing I’m offended about your understanding of the word pivot.

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So so let me get this straight…. He hated Fangio for helping him be at his best in his career. And now your argument has morphed into he isn’t the same player anymore after leading the league in pressure rate in october (don’t disagree he isn’t the same player)… but holy pivot from your initial argument of dolphins players hated fangio and you inferring he was one of them…

Right, he's 26. Of course when he was less than 12 months post op on ACL he wouldn't be the same player. Since he's been a year removed from surgery he's been very good. And there's a good chance he keeps getting stronger. That's what you are betting on for pick 90+. Seems like a reasonable bet

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

You are forgetting they already let Nickerson go. And they traded Metchie for Carter. So they just need 2 roster moves.

Duh, how did I forget about Metchie. I thought Nickerson was done before the moves.

OK, 2 moves. Dillon and Adoree Jackson.

4 hours ago, ManuManu said:

I don’t want to tally it all up, but we’ve traded a bunch of resources (albeit day 3 picks with the exception of Phillips) for a bunch of guys we can’t bank on being here in 2026. Unless I’m missing something, Bigsby seems to be the only one.

The window is now. Howie made all those moves last year in the draft to get this draft capital in order to do just this.

Just now, Mike030270 said:

He's signed players that it seemed like Vic had no input though

He signed huff. Meanwhile fangio said he was fine losing CJGJ, he was involved in drafting Campbell and kuba. Besides Bryce huff, the rest of the guys given to fangio weren’t exactly highly priced guys and were flyers. Also a lot more times they’ve asked him about things he has been ok with and wanted. He needed to ask fangio about adoree Jackson? who likely if ringo did his job well might not even be here anymore.

I’d be really shocked if the Eagles didn’t go to Fangio about the guy he worked with in Miami before making that trade to get as much intel as possible.

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No, what you said to me originally then your follow up was 100% a pivot.

Who says I love the trade? Im willing to see if it works before railing on it. The only thing I’m offended about your understanding of the word pivot.

Pivot would be switching to something that wasn't previously mentioned. Not mentioning again what I originally stated.

I'm sorry, I forgot that Howie is infallible and he has never made a move that hasn't worked out so it is unacceptable to not be overly enthused about this one working out.

4 hours ago, NCiggles said:

You could have just posted this:

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I’ve been wrong before. I’ll be wrong again. And I’d love to be wrong on this. I just don’t like Jaelin Phillips. I don’t expect him to move any needles…I could be wrong there. That remains to be seen.

But I’ll die on the comp pick hill. That’s not happening.

I think Phillips is exactly the type of low cost Free Agent signing you want to make. He has upside if he's healthy. Giving up a 3rd rounder for him isn't insignificant. You are giving up a potential starter to get him for what will likely be a part-time role. He's an upgrade over Uche and Patrick Johnson. He is also has been a productive player when healthy. I think that's the biggest concern.

40 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Good graphic. Where did you get it?

I just made it up.

3 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Pivot would be switching to something that wasn't previously mentioned. Not mentioning again what I originally stated.

I'm sorry, I forgot that Howie is infallible and he has never made a move that hasn't worked out so it is unacceptable to not be overly enthused about this one working out.

4 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Eagles Edge vs the Giants:

Jalyx Hunt, Josh Uche, Patrick Johnson, Jihaad Campbell

Eales Edge vs the Packers:

Jalyx Hunt, Nolan Smith, BG, Jaelan Phillips

Does Josh Uche even dress?

Yes

14 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

He's signed players that it seemed like Vic had no input though

You seriously think he didn't consult with Vic on this?

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Do you thing they'll unretire VanBuren's number for Phillips?

He probably takes 18 as much as I hate it.

2 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Can't wait to hear Vic's next presser and if he's asked about having any kind of input. Last time he said his input was minuscule.

If Phillips is as bad at finishing sacks as Dolphins fans are saying, I’d take the over on Ojomo sacks the rest of the year.

I think Dillon could be a fit at the Chargers, he could pair up with Vidal to form a decent 1-2.

1 minute ago, just relax said:

You seriously think he didn't consult with Vic on this?

Right? Fangio who worked with Phillips and has more intel that he can give Howie. I’d be floored if he didn’t ask him about. Guys like adore Jackson, who are supposed to be fringe roster guys that might not even make the team howie probably doesn’t have to talk much to him about. I’m guessing he probably learned his lesson with Bryce Huff signing so if it’s a bigger move then he at least discusses it with fangio. Like he did with CJGJ where he said he was Ok letting him go when it was brought up to him, drafting campbell and kuba this offseason.

17 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

He signed huff. Meanwhile fangio said he was fine losing CJGJ, he was involved in drafting Campbell and kuba. Besides Bryce huff, the rest of the guys given to fangio weren’t exactly highly priced guys and were flyers. Also a lot more times they’ve asked him about things he has been ok with and wanted. He needed to ask fangio about adoree Jackson? who likely if ringo did his job well might not even be here anymore.

I’d be really shocked if the Eagles didn’t go to Fangio about the guy he worked with in Miami before making that trade to get as much intel as possible.

I thought there was another player that was recent that Vic was asked about in a PC and he gave an answer as if he didn't know because he hadn't watched the tape

5 minutes ago, just relax said:

You seriously think he didn't consult with Vic on this?

I believe it's possible

If these moves are gonna work out, we need to get them some real jersey numbers.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Right? Fangio who worked with Phillips and has more intel that he can give Howie. I’d be floored if he didn’t ask him about. Guys like adore Jackson, who are supposed to be fringe roster guys that might not even make the team howie probably doesn’t have to talk much to him about. I’m guessing he probably learned his lesson with Bryce Huff signing so if it’s a bigger move then he discusses it with fangio. Like he did with CJGJ, drafting campbell and kuba this offseason.

Yeah I'd guess the working relationship evolved. Also low cost guys are probably more Howie shots. He always liked Adoree. We've heard Vic talk about scouting Hunt so we know he's active on some guys. Phillips certainly seems like a guy he'd have big input on. Given the Miami departure I'd guarantee Howie talked to Vic there

Just now, Mike030270 said:

I thought there was another player that was recent that Vic was asked about in a PC and he gave an answer as if he didn't know because he hadn't watched the tape

I believe it's possible

Vic had direct personal knowledge of this player, having coached him to his best season and better knowledge of him as a player and person than anyone in the Eagles organization and you actually think Howie wouldn't consult with him? Really? That's stupendous. I guess you think Howie just reads tea leaves. I recall a few years back when Howie traded for Ajayi. He consulted with Pederson before making that trade and that's a matter of record.

8 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Can't wait to hear Vic's next presser and if he's asked about having any kind of input. Last time he said his input was minuscule.

Absolutely. If he didn't have input I'm worried. If he did then I'm excited. Remember, he is the guy who wanted Hunt who struggled a bit early but had a good game and played well at the end of last year. I trust his input on players especially if they have played for him in the past.

Now, if for some reason Howie didn't talk to Vic that's another story. I can't imagine he wouldn't have in this situation, though.

1 minute ago, just relax said:

Vic had direct personal knowledge of this player, having coached him to his best season and better knowledge of him as a player and person than anyone in the Eagles organization and you actually think Howie wouldn't consult with him? Really? That's stupendous. I guess you think Howie just reads tea leaves. I recall a few years back when Howie traded for Ajayi. He consulted with Pederson before making that trade and that's a matter of record.

I'd think in this case he would have talked to Vic but he evidently hasn't on the CBs this year. Who knows. We can speculate and assume but we don't know.

8 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I thought there was another player that was recent that Vic was asked about in a PC and he gave an answer as if he didn't know because he hadn't watched the tape

I believe it's possible

Pretty sure that PC was about adoree and Bennett. again neither guy they gave up higher en draft capital for.