4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

He hasn't missed any games in the NFL for injuries. He had 2 torn ACLs in his left knee before they drafted him. This is the ACL in his right knee. If they give up on him after one injury in the NFL, it's not about his injuries.

I mean he has yet to play a full season in the nfl (actually play 17 full games: not sit for most of a season) and already injured. Started 12 games in the nfl, he missed week 8 due to an injury and now has an acl. He's never been durable year to year even dating back to college. Add on he hasn’t exactly looked great when he had played. More that cousins just looked significantly worse

7 minutes ago, jamiller said:

And it is 100% false. I do not believe for one minute that these grown men in the locker room and Eagles organization are acting like a room full of old ladies walking around in circles stroking their cats and talking about how disrespectful kids are these days. F Off. All the way off.

This team is on its best run in franchise history, is like 25-3 or whatever in their last 28 games, have wins over every major NFC contender this season after coming off a Super Bowl win where every team has the matchup circled, has a defense that just punked a vaunted Lions offense, and just got through a brutal 10 game stretch at 8-2.

It certainly hasn’t been perfect on the offensive side of the ball, but they deserve some damn respect. I’m tired of the sky is falling reports every week. If you want drama and misery then go be a Browns fan.

9 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yup, hes useless and its not like hes such a great weapon in the pass game that it makes up for his awful blocking, and even if he was wed never know because jalen never gets to his 4th 5th option.

Patullos obsession with multiple TE sets when he only has one good TE is maddening.

Why not go more 3 WR set or even two RB sets instead of trotting Calcaterra out there for 30 snaps a game???

It is one of the single most frustrating things I have even seen in decades of being an Eagles fan. It's not even GC's fault either because it simply isn't, hasn't, been and never will be "his game." Yet they continue to trot him out there as a pulling lead blocker or just running directly behind him in that wing-T look. Which by the way is also a heavily used formation in HS offenses all across the country. The constant use of that wing-T look with the WR's in tight which condenses the formation and gets more men in the box, only to run it directly up the middle flat out doesn't work and they continue to do it over and over and over again.

12 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

This team it on its best run in franchise history, is like 25-3 or whatever in their last 28 games, have wins over every major NFC contender this season after coming off a Super Bowl win where every team has the matchup circled, has a defense that just punked a vaunted Lions offense, and just got through a brutal 10 game stretch.

It certainly hasn’t been perfect on the offensive side of the ball, but they deserve some damn respect. I’m tired of the sky is falling reports every week. If you want drama and misery then go be a Browns fan.

This whole entire experience is yet another example of why people can't have nice things. People are just miserable, negative creatures.

42 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think it’s more the fact he can’t stay healthy and tbh he wasn’t that good prior to another acl.

Yep, Can't stay healthy, isn't that good, will lose an entire off-season of development and probably the first few weeks of next season. Considering they invested a top 10 pick in him I would also consider it a disaster.

1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

It is one of the single most frustrating things I have even seen in decades of being an Eagles fan. It's not even GC's fault either because it simply isn't, hasn't, been and never will be "his game." Yet they continue to trot him out there as a pulling lead blocker or just running directly behind him in that wing-T look. Which by the way is also a heavily used formation in HS offenses all across the country. The constant use of that wing-T look with the WR's in tight which condenses the formation and gets more men in the box, only to run it directly up the middle flat out doesn't work and they continue to do it over and over and over again.

I called out Doug on this in the last 2 years he was here. He’d would misuse the personnel he had after the 2018 season. In 2019, it took them til December to figure out how to utilize the personnel correctly. In 2020 wentz was a disaster but they also were grossly misusing their personnel. They’d run plays cause it was what they wanted to do and not what their personnel does best. Feels like we’ve gotten back to that stage again where they want to run plays that they like and think would work against certain teams but don’t have the personnel to effectively run it. Add on refuse to understand they don’t have that personnel.

Just now, T-1000 said:

Yep, Can't stay healthy, isn't that good, will lose an entire off-season of development and probably the first few weeks of next season. Considering they invested a top 10 pick in him I would also consider it a disaster.

Tbh his injury past should’ve been enough for Atlanta to not take him that high. Secondly they just gave cousins a boatload of money as well. Now they also traded away their first rounder to the rams so another dumb trade. Whoever is the GM really deserves to be fire. Feel Morris is also a lousy coach. How he got a second HC job is amazing to me.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I called out Doug on this in the last 2 years he was here. He’d would misuse the personnel he had after the 2018 season. In 2019, it took them til December to figure out how to utilize the personnel correctly. In 2020 wentz was a disaster but they also were grossly misusing their personnel. They’d run plays cause it was what they wanted to do and not what their personnel does best. Feels like we’ve gotten back to that stage again where they want to run plays that they like and think would work against certain teams but don’t have the personnel to effectively run it. Add on refuse to understand they don’t have that personnel.

I watch GC pretty much every time we are in that look and he is in the game and he not only doesn't block well but he gets blown up most of the time. There was a play late in the 4th quarter where he came across the formation and was a lead blocker for Saquon and there were two guys on either side of him and failed to block either one. It's a disaster pretty much every time they are in that look.

Who taught Pat McAfee to say "con TROV ersee" is that a regional thing somewhere?

Fangio and the D staff doing things the other side of the ball can only dream of

20 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

If you want drama and misery then go be a Browns fan.

Speaking of which -- I know I never (seldom) miss an opportunity to crap on Shedeur, but I hadn't seen much news about other games yesterday. He came into the Browns game yesterday after Gabriel went out with a concussion and went 4-for-16 for 47 yards and an INT.

They traded Pickett before the season. They traded Flacco during the season. That resulted in Shedeur going to #2 on the QB depth chart and being one play away from game action; as the backup QB you're always one play away from leading the team and you have to be preparing as though you're the starter.

This kid just doesn't get it -- and that's as charitable as I can be.

5 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

Who taught Pat McAfee to say "con TROV ersee" is that a regional thing somewhere?

He's a yinzer

4 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

I watch GC pretty much every time we are in that look and he is in the game and he not only doesn't block well but he gets blown up most of the time. There was a play late in the 4th quarter where he came across the formation and was a lead blocker for Saquon and there were two guys on either side of him and failed to block either one. It's a disaster pretty much every time they are in that look.

I know exactly what play you are talking about. I saw it and was like seriously had one assignment and it was basically like running the play with just 10 guys on the field with how useless Calcaterra was.

Thankfully goedert came back this year cause TE would’ve been the worse position group on the team if he didn’t. That says a lot cause CB 2 wasn’t particularly great. That said i really hope they sign a FA TE and draft one in the middle rounds that can be groomed. I’d prefer Andrews if you get him on a solid deal for 2 years. I’d say njoku cause i like him as a player but his durability is a concern like goedert albeit a year younger. i do like upside of okonkwo if he’s cheap. I think off the titans he could be a nice player.

1 hour ago, Freshmilk said:

Whomever gets the blame deserves it: Eagles offense started drives on the Lions 11, 48, and 43 yard line and their own 32, 45, and 35 (2x) yard line. They scored 9 points on those possessions. All FGs. Total offensive yards on those 7 drives? 82 yards. That is pathetic. If the Lions punt, pinning us back rather than going for 5 4th downs, they have a strong chance to win. Other, smarter coaches will punt and challenge the offense to get more than 11.7 yards per drive.

We had 6 other drives including game ender that totaled 189 yards of offense and 1 TD-a whopping 31.5 yards per drive.

For the game we averaged 20.9 yards per drive

I'm gonna go cry with a box of oreos and a gallon of milk.

Does the same logic work pork in reverse? Is the Detroit Offense equally criticizable?

4 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Fangio and the D staff doing things the other side of the ball can only dream of

Amazing that fangio is able to use the bye week and 11 weeks to figure some stuff out with self scouting. Meanwhile the offense coaching looks like they just do the same thing over and over expecting new results.

11 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

It is one of the single most frustrating things I have even seen in decades of being an Eagles fan. It's not even GC's fault either because it simply isn't, hasn't, been and never will be "his game." Yet they continue to trot him out there as a pulling lead blocker or just running directly behind him in that wing-T look. Which by the way is also a heavily used formation in HS offenses all across the country. The constant use of that wing-T look with the WR's in tight which condenses the formation and gets more men in the box, only to run it directly up the middle flat out doesn't work and they continue to do it over and over and over again.

Yup. We ran triple option in HS out of a wing T formation, we called it ACE. The two wing backs were of course RBs not TEs and we split our WRs out wide. All year ive been wondering why they heck patullo sirriani are packing everything in tight and running it, general rule is spread em out to run and pack em in to pass but patullo does the opposite.

Now with Lane out I imagine well see less 6 OL fronts and instead just get more " jumbo" sets with small bad blocking TEs☹️

44 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Penix was an historically bad draft pick, in terms of process anyway. Every defensive player was still on the draft board when they selected him (after giving Kirk Cousins $100M guaranteed just six weeks earlier).

Their incompetence helped us draft Q at #22 so everything worked out ..... for us.

Trading up for Penix was a mistake. I don't know if it was historically bad. In any event, I think the bigger mistake was signing Cousins.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Amazing that fangio is able to use the bye week and 11 weeks to figure some stuff out with self scouting. Meanwhile the offense coaching looks like they just do the same thing over and over expecting new results.

It is isn't it? Someone/s reviewed tape and stats, did some analysis of Mitchell and Jackson, then came up with a solution. Hides some of the issues Jackson has been having as much as they can., thus giving him confidence.

What is the culture of the O?

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Is she open to a side guy?

I’ll be letting her know that she is not open to that.

2 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

It is isn't it? Someone/s reviewed tape and stats, did some analysis of Mitchell and Jackson, then came up with a solution. Hides some of the issues Jackson has been having as much as they can., thus giving him confidence.

What is the culture of the O?

It’s really what Matt will said earlier. Sirianni is a CEO HC with his leadership qualities and keeping the team in check. He isn’t a COO like mcvay and guys like that. So fingers not a COO you need an OC like a Steichen and even Moore who can be. Patullo is far from that. Tbh i think patullo is similar to sirianni

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Amazing that fangio is able to use the bye week and 11 weeks to figure some stuff out with self scouting. Meanwhile the offense coaching looks like they just do the same thing over and over expecting new results.

24 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

I watch GC pretty much every time we are in that look and he is in the game and he not only doesn't block well but he gets blown up most of the time. There was a play late in the 4th quarter where he came across the formation and was a lead blocker for Saquon and there were two guys on either side of him and failed to block either one. It's a disaster pretty much every time they are in that look.

Yup if I had a nickel for every time CG gets blown up or blocks no one ...

Its tough to watch he is a good receiver but lining him up as a lead blocker was and is never a good idea

Not sure I want to see Lane or Jurgens back before the playoffs even if they are somehow "ready” before then.